QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 14 2012, 10:33 AM)
Good gawd.. the fler no fingers nor Excel to count, nor literate enough to comprehend GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND
GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND
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Jul 14 2012, 10:36 AM
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Jul 14 2012, 10:37 AM
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Jul 14 2012, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 14 2012, 10:39 AM) We should ask EPF dump ALL our monies in Genneva...then we Malaysians can afford to takeover Berkshire Hathaway in no time Wei - dont give the DADS (dumb as d** s***) ideas to further kill my $100K in EPF pls This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 14 2012, 10:43 AM |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(ralphaell @ Jul 14 2012, 10:43 AM) Dude - ever heard of the Madoff scam? Ran for donkey of years but finally...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff_investment_scandal This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 14 2012, 10:48 AM |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(ralphaell @ Jul 14 2012, 10:47 AM) Is he? IF he stopped investing and pulled out already, yes.IF not, the gold is in his hand now or not? Do an Excel calculation - 2 years.. with the buyback by Company at the end of the contract and buy anew again by your friend (higher gold price assumed) for a new contract, U sure he's safe? This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 14 2012, 10:51 AM |
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Jul 14 2012, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 14 2012, 10:55 AM) Anybody know which company is this newspaper article refer to ? Holy crap - dated 13/07/2012 22:10http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/335393 So fast kaboom? Sorry ar bro - i used google translate and read it as kaboom |
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Jul 21 2012, 10:32 AM
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*koff koff*
"We've got BNM directors and Syariah Compliance senior auditors on board with us to correct the misunderstanding/situation." |
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Jul 31 2012, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(edyek @ Jul 31 2012, 08:01 AM) Ui? I thought boss PatEagle has post something earlier but hilang post already? Got deleted due to:Kena bash by all the Gold taikor here until del post? Too much advertisement in her/his siggy gua OR obviously misleading post since Geneva Malaysia (new) AND Geneva (old) on BNM's watchlist liao + "hibbah" tak boleh guna + "interest" pun tak boleh guna BTW, this fellow also never replied to my Excel on the calculations posted on an old thread/topic started by him/her, simulating returns 1 to 5 years based his/her website on Geneva's structure + on gold prices stagnate, goes up or falls. Numbers are hard to "lie" unless one is a professional "statistician" This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 31 2012, 08:32 AM |
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Jul 31 2012, 01:51 PM
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Aug 1 2012, 06:20 PM
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Aug 1 2012, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 1 2012, 08:19 PM) Right...... Agent 777 ... totally forget about him. I like your Golum impression..Boss 777, the consumer and BNM is yakking nonsense... Please defend our mighty company... Our company have tonnes of gold in the safe, please dont let the police/SC raid everything. Its our gold... MY PRECIOUS...... ..and One company to rule them all (suckers) Ok ok sorry ar Mod(s) for turning slightly into kopitiam style posting, can't help myself. Comedy lar the paper thin defence and i seriously like the Golum and gold thinggy |
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Aug 3 2012, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 3 2012, 10:40 PM) From March until today, I can see all the rubbish comments posted in this forum. Unless BNM made some severe printing errors, i don't think we're stupid enough to test Genneva with our hard earned $. No one seems to understand the business model. First of all it is not an investment scheme, therefore has nothing to do with BN approval. It is not taking any form of deposits. It is just a gold smith shop that sells you gold and give you a discount which is given back to you not at the time of purchase but spread over a few months. Just imagine you are buying a gold ring from Poh Kong or other gold smith shop and they give you a discount. The discounted amount is given back to you spread across a few months. That's all !! You call this a scam or illegal?? Come on .... go to the shop and sit down there and see for yourself. Don't just sit in front of your PC and start googling here and there to find negative remarks like what you can see in this forum. There are lots of cyber troopers out there who are working for other competitors to write negative remarks because of jealousy seeing the business growing so quickly. Do you know that there are quite a few more companies doing the same thing but their names do not appear anywhere and you guys have not heard of them before and cannot even google their company name? For the commenter "lunchtime" who screams that the company is still owing his wife some outstanding amount from his previous purchase when the company was raided by BN, why can't he just pay a visit to the office at Kuchai Lama and look for the owner who sits at the top floor everyday? He will be glad to see you and settle the problem because he is not hiding somewhere where you cannot find him !! Unless of course you are just a cyber trooper trying to tarnish the image of the company ! Look son <koff><koff>, most of us old folks here knows that one doesn't need to test a black mamba's bite to know it's deadly, we just R&D and learn/check from various trusted sources. In fact, common sense tells U something's fishy already, unless greed has already gotten it's fangs into one. Now, if U do want to test something which is ALREADY known to be bad for U (health or finance), do go ahead but making statements about cyber troopers? A person with 2 posts in LYN is slinging that all the fellows here posting are cyber troopers? Too rich a comedy This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Aug 3 2012, 11:08 PM |
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Aug 6 2012, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 6 2012, 07:48 AM) We not as "atas" as them "investors" mar, thus the secrets of the investments are lost on us. Nevermind lar, something about leading cows to water but can't force cows to drink. We go drink from more statistically probable water lar Side note: Eh - keep buying up ICAP ar boss, i want the general offer hehe This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Aug 6 2012, 08:59 AM |
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Aug 8 2012, 02:31 PM
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Aug 8 2012, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 8 2012, 02:39 PM) Diff strokes for diff folks lor.I don't want to keep worrying about my investments + i don't want to be chopped into little pieces if i shared/CONvince some folks into it and the music stops playing Not too nice mar right? Not going to be one of those "anything for $" - still have a conscience or right/not too right. Well, that's just me. Others who are lucky enough to ignore both items above, good for them lar This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Aug 8 2012, 03:25 PM |
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Aug 8 2012, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(pokemonkiller @ Aug 8 2012, 10:28 PM) Hello Mr. Miow, Miow, From your fellow Genneva Malaysia supporter, stating about BNM, Syariah, BAFIA - maybe he's from a different marketing spin from yours?:Don't just hear, go and investigate yourself, see for yourself with your own eyes and listen attentively. It has always been a trading business. There are many people like you out there who twist it and spread the news as an investment company because simple minded people like you all keep on thinking and have the mind set that got return(money given back to you) is always classified as investment. Dr. M launched the Syariah Compliance and it has not changed since then. It is only recently when the fatwa people started the story of non-compliance which is indirectly shooting the syariah people. That means you have not even seen the launching by Dr. M on youtube. Where is/was it ever stated before it was BNM approved?? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2265281/+108 "...Hello, it involves religious Syariah Laws compliance and you think the religious advisors from BNM will acccept frauds?? Don't tell me they were paid off.........PLEASE! Don't insult these people in BNM and the Syariah Law experts who are religious people!! I heard one of the Advisor from BNM SITs on the Board of Genneva as advisor and observer that Genneva practise the Syariah Law Compliancein its fullest compliance. Please don't confuse the public!!!! Luckily, i'm not confused." http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2265281/+115 "... but 'funnily' BNM still allow them to operate, coming to 2 years now! Since they have a Syariah law professor as advisor from BNM on their board and 3 other professors in Genneva panel including one seconded from a bank, BNM should know, they do have their own officers checking on companies like them. My question is, why didn't BNM and ROC strike Genneva off?? I was told that Genneva is also reporting to BNM on a monthly basis. So that is why i couldn't believe all the talk about Genneva being scam (very easy to shut down these kind of companies). These rumours could have come from different quarters who were severely affected by Genneva's operations. They were also investigated for breaking the AMLA act. But investigation is going on but this is not investigation into scam. Todate I was told that BNM could find any misdeeds by Genneva. ..." http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2265281/+117 "..High profile names. They are in the papers and on Genneva's office wall and videos. Or you can get from the company officers. A good many. Syariah Law professors? A good many. Ask any Genneva consultants. They should know if not i'll be SURPRISED!!!! When we go into Syariah Law, it is debatable, a big topic beyond our grips. But at least we know they come under the purview of BNM. That is good enough for me. At least the top authority is into this and provides guidelines, particularly for those who practise Islamic banking and financial operations to be able to 'profit' from it righteously in their way of religion. That is, this law for the Muslims. Then, this guideline is even stricter in the sense as it stems from trying to conduct it religiously, if you know what i mean. So at least the higher authority BNM knows what is going on. That is all i have to say..." |
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Aug 8 2012, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 8 2012, 10:49 PM) Bro, it's ok lar, there are people like that - they think $ is everything.And most of us, ranging from poor as dirt (me) to multi-millionaires near retirement age fellows ( who are coming in late into the game, thus enabling the scheme to pay the earlier folks, which suckers more poor sods into the game. Karma & payback's a b*tch. |
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Aug 9 2012, 01:33 PM
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Hellthy competition? (yes, purposely spelt wrongly
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry53705530 whoops - that topic/thread missing.. nuked by Mods methinks http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2463471 whoa.. new topic again! This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Aug 9 2012, 05:05 PM |
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Aug 10 2012, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(pokemonkiller @ Aug 10 2012, 02:21 PM) Why you people still cannot pick up what I am saying one? Mr Pokemonkiller. Needn't be so angry lar - U share your pro Genneva views, others share their "becareful" views.I am giving you "EXAMPLE". You understand what is meant by EXAMPLE or not? Hardware shop is a trading company. If you call BNM and ask them whether can INVEST in the hardware shop or not they will tell you "BOLIH KA? No need to proof this proof that. If you are so positive that it is a scam why are you wasting so much of your energy and time posting here??? Go and look for "reliable" and "trustworthy" investment company lah !! Spend your precious time there.......NOT here. If people want to be suckers to get con by this company let them kena lah. You have already given your expert calculation and risk factors, blah blah blah for them to analyse. If they still got no brain and don't listen to you, it is their business loh. There are some more 76 companies under the BNM list. Go through them one by one and study them and give your expert advise lah. Thus, if U can share your gung-ho support, why can't others balance the scale by stating some items to be aware of? Don't lar start attacking personally - all the "becareful" views are stating evidences, whereas from my perspective, the supporters of Genneva are stating "heresays" and no solid evidences. Note - evidence = from a reputable third party, say BNM, or a "business profit method" thus Genneva can afford to pay back their "investors", or now known as "traders". or the structurally iffy (to the "traders"/buyers) contracts one has to sign. Just a thought - not wishing anyone's "backside tear" as U so eloquently put it to EddyLB ".... So many negative remarks coming from you people already tarnishing the image, I guess by the time you managed to see him, your backside will tear already.." |
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Aug 10 2012, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 10 2012, 03:08 PM) hi Sya hehe - no worries ProphetJul.i can assure you wong sifu is no CONsultant of Genneva..infact he has been warning against Genneva all the while. Thanks I think Sya's just responding via my post to Pokemon or other supporters. Funny lor - supporters getting personal, ie. attacking personal or sounding more & more like thugs. If readers can see with 100% clarity those who are posting "bewares" evidences and where "we are coming from" (ie. we don't really need the hassle to post such but we've been through / seen some cons before and THIS looks similar.... thus beware), especially U, a gold investor when it was DOWN in the pits |
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