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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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post Oct 9 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Oct 9 2012, 11:34 AM)
Haha, that was what I thought too. I am not a fan of conspiracy theories also. But from the source that I got this info, its worth to think of the legibility of this information. As I said b4 its open for debate. Maybe some1 who is an expert in finance can tell us these 2 scenarios are impossible, and debunk the story all together.


Added on October 9, 2012, 11:36 am

that's where the suspected ponzi scheme come in.
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Genneva CONsultant start to spank their kid and take their photo:-
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 9 2012, 11:41 AM)
Possibily. But here in Malaysia it is very rare to see a company sue government. Normally it's the government that "whack" the companies.
Nice theory man, Money Laundring at it's basic.  thumbup.gif

Now I wonder could this be the primary reason that why both RMP & CAD sync the raid at the same day.

E.g: To hammer down a suspected big international money laundring operations....
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Then Genneva 2 become Genneva 1. Until now also cannot solve. Investor money all lesap oredi.
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post Oct 9 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 9 2012, 11:58 AM)
If not wrong, trading of high volume precious metal also needs to report to BNM under AMLA. i.e. for above some threshold set, AMLA reporting is required. Maybe someone in the industry can shed some light.
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Things will start to get political now:-

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Pls Pass On To Everyone!
Update: Exco Pemuda UMNO Biro Aduan Komuniti Dato' Mohd Khairun b Tan Sri Aseh mengarahkan semua consultant genneva (tak kira bangsa) untuk berkumpul esok 2pm di :-
Biro Aduan UMNO Malaysia, A1-2-9 Solaris Dutamas, Jln Dutamas 1, Off Jln Duta, KL.
Semua diwajibkan hadir kerana ini adalah langkah yang UMNO ambil untuk membantu menyelamatkan genneva.

Dato' Mohd Khairun said regardless what race u r, pls come tomorrow at 2pm to his ofis. Pls spread. Make sure we reach there by 1.30pm tomorrow. Dont b late. His office address is
Biro Aduan UMNO Malaysia. A1-2-9 Solaris Dutamas, Jln Dutamas 1, Off Jln Duta, KL.

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post Oct 9 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 9 2012, 01:29 PM)
So SO RIGHT!

Lookie at the vids by the GoldenGOOSie Pat Lu.

Reporter- Ummm the investment.............

CONsultants_ NO! NO! WE ARE GOLD TRADING!      biggrin.gif
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its very funny the way the CONsultant talk. Every word they take so serious and very very sensitive.

If we say consultant is agent, they quickly deny it.
Also the customer is not investor.

All this wording play is so obvious its a MLM + Gold + pyramid + ponzi + scam.
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post Oct 9 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Oct 9 2012, 01:41 PM)
I think Genneva briefed them at the last minute on what to say, what to do n what not to do .... on hope they can get back their gold/money.
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Yes, I believe so too. Now Genneva brief them don't report police or else cannot take back money gold.

Its so obvious this is stupid advice. Why report police can cause the victim unable to get back their money and gold? This is like threatening the victim. If victim report police, Genneva won't give them back their money. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 9 2012, 01:50 PM)
well DRILLZed............    biggrin.gif
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For now I think CONsultant is quite nervous. Some of the downline start to threaten the upline.

And also for person

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Shereen Lim
UMNO you are my hero!
Michael Chong, you fail us, shame on you!!!
UMNO become hero when money is involved. LOL. I think no need to pitied this type of CONsultant.
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post Oct 9 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Oct 9 2012, 01:59 PM)
Just typical human behaviour imho. All these investors/consultant who swear they will stick with Genneva, guess what? They only care about their own money. Once they got back their money who cares about Genneva  whistling.gif
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That's why they go into this Genneva PONZI scheme. All because of money and greed. And for goyang kaki get money.

Just read their post. I can sense they don't want to work and just want to get money every month. Where got such thing as free lunch one. Idiot la this people.
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post Oct 9 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(KentPhan @ Oct 9 2012, 02:32 PM)
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Lim Kong Sang .....Genneva management and my upline, please note though my cheque cleared on 28 Aug 2012 over for 1 month plus but yet I have not received neither your Gold Bar or Hibah. Therefore please advise me how much of faith do I have to put in ? Do I have to open my heart for u to see...my faith & trust. I have taken all the steps such as send 3 personal email to PM office, call BNM & etc but in vain. Please do no challenge a person whose money is hard earned. YOU DO NOT WISH TO SEE A LION ROAR ! YOU WILL REGRET !

13 hours ago

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This msg was extracted from http://www.facebook.com/notes/genneva-gold...388378461233682.

Faith losing among investors are getting in spreading .... the more comments they read from others .... they will be back to real world from their dreaming world!!!

Don't invest something you are not ware of. Any ROI which is 5% better than ordinary FD, you have to be careful and understand its risk very well. I have been investing at part time basis for more than 20 years....my average ROI is 6%. I am not a lazy investor. I do a lot of study, analysis and follow up of investments. That much I can accomplish. Maybe, I am stupid, not as clever as Genneva investors.
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This Lim Kong Sang talk about Rich Dad Poor Dad and how become rich. Then he suddenly losing faith. Very funny guy. LOL.

I also read this:-
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Liz Gunn
Yes i am hoping for the best and the best. I have one particular client who is demanding of her money back cos she cant sleep until her 21,500rm is right under her pillow. And just to silent her i have to give her my money first as a surety. I am glad my other clients are more calm and understanding. This particular client is a teacher but she only knows how to teach her subject,other things she is just nuts and behaved crazily and unreasonably like an uneducated woman!


Now upline start to pay their downline. Relationship between Genneva CONsultant and victim/customer/downline start to crumpled already under pressure. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sampool @ Oct 9 2012, 02:58 PM)
who is Lim Kong Sang?
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Lim Kong Sang is downline of Genneva Gold
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Lim Kong Sang
.....Genneva management and my upline, please note though my cheque cleared on 28 Aug 2012 over for 1 month plus but yet I have not received neither your Gold Bar or Hibah. Therefore please advise me how much of faith do I have to put in ? Do I have to open my heart for u to see...my faith & trust. I have taken all the steps such as send 3 personal email to PM office, call BNM & etc but in vain. Please do no challenge a person whose money is hard earned. YOU DO NOT WISH TO SEE A LION ROAR ! YOU WILL REGRET !


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 9 2012, 03:00 PM)
Thanks YOU CONsultants for fronting the $$$$$$  for us - Genneva Gold
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More and more downline will start to ask. icon_question.gif


Added on October 9, 2012, 3:12 pm
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Wei! Stop calling us stupid or etc. If u never encounter defeat, u never learn how to be success. Sorry to say, is waste of my precious time to talk to u, Mr Ngiam. If u have never read Rich Dad & Poor Dad book, u will alwiz be Poor Dad category.


Rich Dad, Poor Dad book. The bible of pyramid/ponzi scheme. rclxms.gif

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post Oct 9 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(merce @ Oct 9 2012, 03:30 PM)
how does that book become a bible of pyramid/ponzi scheme?  doh.gif
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That book is bible of pyramid/ponzi scheme for so long already and you don't know it? Every MLM and Get Rich Quick scheme use this book to lure customer for financial freedom. You must be living under coconut shell for not knowing this. Probably you're part of get rich quick scheme to deny this rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(merce @ Oct 9 2012, 03:49 PM)
RDPD is a book about financial education, which part of the book promotes Get Rich Quick Scheme? please enlighten me.  smile.gif

even thou most of the get rich quick schemes use MLM structures, they are 2 separate matters. (for your information there are several types of MLM structures. as long as there is a limit to the pay out, the business itself is sustainable.)

dun be another dugong who tries to act like smart. u are commenting like one.  rclxms.gif
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Now I know why you so angry because I say RDPD is MLM/Scam bible. Its because you're from MLM. tongue.gif
Sorry bro. I didn't know you're from MLM.


Added on October 9, 2012, 4:05 pmBut we all know MLM operate based on pyramid scheme. Not much different from Genneva Gold. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 9 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(scorpio55 @ Oct 9 2012, 04:07 PM)
Read all 4 chapters of THE GREAT GENNEVA GOLD SCAM at Martin Lee blog:

Link:  http://www.martinlee.sg/genneva-gold/

See Pgs 13 onwards to Pg 17.
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Thanks for link biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(anudora @ Oct 9 2012, 04:14 PM)
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...9&if_height=516

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Genneva said cannot issue public statement.
Look like another company just issued public statement.  laugh.gif  And the statement come from the company CEO.
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Probably Genneva boss missing already. Just left a few appointed directors. Directors got no power to release statement sweat.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 04:38 PM

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I can't believe this. Got people go temple and pray:-

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For those that don't know Chinese, the middle column is the name Genneva (kam yuk wah). flex.gif


Added on October 9, 2012, 4:41 pmFeel sad reading this:-

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Thanks for your sharing, I come to know Genneva a year, I have two antie in the program, they have so much peace in holding gold then going play manjong....


Now the aunty cannot play mahjong goyang kaki peacefully cry.gif

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post Oct 9 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(cstan61 @ Oct 9 2012, 05:12 PM)
Ahem... Kijang emas 1 troy ounce = 31.105grams.

http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p.../INV-Investment
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I heard Kijang also sold out one. brows.gif


Added on October 9, 2012, 5:20 pm
QUOTE(Dan01 @ Oct 9 2012, 05:14 PM)
Investors or buyers lose money go into which category?
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Some of the investor is bank manager. I wonder how this happened?

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Name : Ng K _ _ S _ _ _ _
Hong Leong Bank
Senior Manager ยท Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


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post Oct 9 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Oct 9 2012, 05:23 PM)
i think they know its a scam, but wanted to take the risk. never thought BNM will take action this early.
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Really? LOLOL...

QUOTE(merce @ Oct 9 2012, 05:23 PM)
dude, u live under the coconut shell all these years too? probably you're part of get rich quick scheme to deny this too...

rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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Come on la brader. I didn't say RDPD teach scam. I try to avoid replying you because you seems like agitated due to the fact I equate MLM with Genneva. I just say RDPD is used by scam to scam people. There's different between RDPD teach scam and scam use RDPD to scam.

If you still angry, then let us put this behind. I'm wrong. MLM is not pyramid scheme. RDPD is not teaching scam. Hope you don't keep on be angry. sweat.gif


Added on October 9, 2012, 5:31 pmThe Genneva Supporter group now very happy to show more victim is online:-

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post Oct 9 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(plastictemple @ Oct 9 2012, 05:31 PM)
Lim kong Sang, how do i get my gold back?
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You can always ask your CONsultant. LOL
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QUOTE(KentPhan @ Oct 9 2012, 05:40 PM)
Thanks for your feedback. I don't mind sharing with you my shame investment experience.

In the past 20 years, my investments are really diversified, which including properties, shares in Bursa and SGX, unit trusts, insurance saving, foreign FDs, FDs, saving, gold saving from MBB and Singapore UOB, AS1M, newly acquiring perpertual bonds of Genting Singapore and also, Forex via FXCM.

I have made some big money and also, losing some big money. Overall, plus and minus, as per my excel records,  the past 20 years returns me with around 6% average annuity. This is as good as the EPF dividend declared in last year.

Why not, put all the money into EPF or AS1M, rather works so hard for all kinds of investments.  cry.gif

That why my eye is so RED when knowing Genneva investors were earning 25% annuity. They make me look so stupid!!!
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I also feel stupid. If Genneva is given a clean bill of health by BNM, I might join them laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tandukperak @ Oct 9 2012, 05:57 PM)
gold purchase with 25% premium but came with monthly "gift" of 2% ( 24% annum)...which part of that the customers claimed that the monthly earnings help to support their family? They r their own paymaster wor. Got other interpretation meh?
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Those that very active talking and talking and saying how they help their earning, they are actually CONsultant.

They CONvince a lot of people to join. Their income is 5 digit.
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(KamikazePg @ Oct 9 2012, 11:21 PM)
CON-sultants BEWARE!

If the investor lodge a police report, the consultant will be implicated to the case thus:

Consultants could be charge the following under Malaysia Penal Code:
Section 120A: Criminal Conspiracy
Section 267: Making or selling false weights or measure
Section 415: Cheating
These charges carry 5-7 years imprisonment and fine

Under the Contract Law of Malaysia, Consultant can be sue for:
Section 16: Undue Influence
Section 17: Fraud
Section 18: Void Agreement
These cases where consultants can be made personally liable for the lost of money due to the scam of Genneva as they are also one of them with financial gain by selling you the scheme.


Added on October 9, 2012, 11:28 pmA good one.....from Alfred Lim

Did you all know that the names of 4 individual being charge for Genneva Sdn BHd in the 2009 case is Ng Poh Weng, 61, Marcus Yee Yuen Seng, 59, Chin Wai Leong, 35, and Liew Chee Wah, 57. They are also the same director of Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd which deal with gold trading and was raided by BMN. They claim all their gold is certified by G-Beam. G-Bean stands for Gold Bullion Enterpreneurs of Malaysia and it's suppose to be registered society in Malaysia.

Did you know that Marcus Yee Yuen Seng is the Vice-Chairman of G-Beam, Chin Wai Leong is also the Vice-Chairman of G-Beam and Ng Poh Weng is the chairman of G-Bean. Meaning the G-Bean was form to certified their own dealing of their own companies Genneva. This is a toal conflict of interest. There is absolutely no 3rd neutral party that was made to scrutinies their dealing, their accounts and their transaction of billions of ringgit.
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You sound like Alfred

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