hey guys,

wanna ask for some advices...i wan to improve altis handling and fast cornering stability while not sacrificing its comfort and NVH so much (alrdy plan to add on bars too)...any suggestions on

1. tyre brand and series
2. tyre spec (eg 215/55/R16)...prefer 17" but not sure on the thickness and width
3. rim brand and type (i heard better use those light weight rims for toyota cars)

thanks in advance

***update***

tyre profile confirm 215/45/R17

recommended brand and series by other people:
-michelin ps3
-goodyear eagle f1 assymmetric (not the latest assymmetric 2)
-goodyear f1 directional 5
-hankook v8
-hankook v12
-conti premium contact 2
-other suggestions???

how bout rim brand and type (lightweight)?

This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 12 2012, 01:23 PM

bars will do much improvements than rims alone.

i alrdy plan to do bars and tyre+rim

care to tell whats the stock tyre size and width?

nanti recommend 255/45/ZR19 sagat pulak.

haha sry sry...forgot 2 state my preference...i'm going for lightweight 17"...stock is 205/55/R16 alloy...main benefits i'm looking for is improve handling and body roll as well as better FC...

sounds like you want to be fast and at the same time want to save fuel.

BTW, changing tires or rims wont reduce the body roll. If you want the body roll to be cancelled out completely, adjustable suspension is your only way.

I'll pass on the tyre suggestion but normally a tyre which saves fuel wont be good in handling and vice versa.

215/45/17 is the recommended spec from TRD.



This post has been edited by eddychstu: Mar 12 2012, 02:24 AM

Michelin XM2, Yokohama db, Continental CC3...

if u want more performance
Michelin PS3, Bridgestone RE002, Yokohama Advan Sport

lol...okok...then how bout juz improve handling and better at high speed cornering?any suggestions for tat?

hmm...will it b the recommended tyre spec works best if install all other setups as specified in the sheet?coz definitely i won't touch the suspension and other things tat will void warranty...

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Added on March 12, 2012, 2:37 amthx...wat bout the spec?i see XM2 dun hv 17" size...can't find any info on CC3 also lol...how bout lightweight rim recommendation?

This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 12 2012, 03:10 AM

- that is TS's problem pretty much. cant have the best of both worlds. either draw a balance and compromise, or go with 1 without the other.

- after the track day experience, 100% agree with this
my semi-slick tires gripped the road firmly and having full control over the road. however body roll, from outside spectator's view, my car was rocking like a boat

err alrdy updated my requirement...any recommendation?pls recommend something at least...

Try eibach springs and UR bars (front, back, lower arms). It does reduce my altis body roll last time. Only slightly. Dont expect too much. Altis is not a good car for handling to start with.

well if u intend to keep the speedo range & comfort level
go with 205/50/17 or 215/50/17 tires

yea planning to install those bars but not springs lo...later void my warranty ler...but for now bars should help la...i heard someone installed front strut, rear antiroll and tower bar or something like tat...wat is tower bar?

wat do u mean by keep speedo range?the odometer will deviate from normal range?comfort can be compromised to a certain extent lo...i know if use bigger tyre profile will cut down the comfort...but it's ok as long as not cut down alot...

Link between front strut tower. Typically 2 points (of mounting). Depend on car model/make some have 3 and 4 points. Prevent/synchronize sway between front struts.

ever consider getting a civic or ford focus?

so tower bar is actually the front strut link?

well i love focus but it's compact car...if it's bigger abit then i will definitely go for it...i heard civic ride is hard no comfortable...

you got an Altis d bro?! 2.0 or 1.8 ah?

haha yea...will b driving it soon...hvn't take the car since waiting for next alphabet...1.8G...

lolz congrates on ur new ride

haha...thx thx how bout u?planning 2 get new car?

wider is better sometimes..

huh wat's wider?car or tyre lolz...or something else

i mean tyre...wider tyre imporves dry grip..not neccesary larger rim, but usually larger rim has wider profile...so ur choice is nice..

This post has been edited by xshiro: Mar 12 2012, 01:10 PM

oic...i'm planning to go for 215/45/R17 but not sure which brand and series is good...so far recommended ones r michelin ps3, goodyear eagle f1 assymmetric (not the latest assymmetric 2) and directional 5, hankook v8 and v12, conti premium contact 2...any idea?

how much is your budget?

if your budget is unlimited, get GY F1 A2. or PS3 or Dicrectional 5 if u cannot find F1A2.

CPC2 not on same level, hankook are when u are on a tight budget.

im not sure this review is still valid because it 2006 review...but try have a look..

hmm...not sure wat's average mid range tyre will cost...but of coz not so expensive and high-end la...not going 2 use my car 2 race lol...juz wanna improve handling and cornering stability...but i dowan trade off comfort so much lo...later bcome very bumpy...so mid-end tyres should fare well...i know GY F1 A2 and PS3 damn expensive...but i juz put it up as info...not going 4 it...

lol...good review but those test r somewat more suitable for race cars...

17 inches ps3 215 50 17 is rmn560-600.

F1A2 slightly more expensive. F1D5 about same like Ps3.

wow my pocket alrdy going 2 burn big hole...wan use those tyres...the hole straight away disappear along with my pants lolz...any mid-end tyres to recommend?

bang for buck, hankook v12, not sure about the price. or proxes T1R.

xm2= fuel saving.

icic...hankook v12 and proxes t1r is it good all-rounder tyre?xm2 is fuel saving but in terms of handling and cornering stability seems not good

all rounder is the one ps3, f1a2, they very emphasis on wet handling also.

T1r and V12 less on wet. but for medium budget, T1R and V12 is worth a look. you can find reviews and tyre test from internet too.

icic...ok...i saw got people posted a tyre review by germany mag but not sure how 2 find it...google can't find...do u know of this?

many of those are street tyres

http://www.tirerack.com/

http://www.tirereview.com/

if GY F1 A1 consider mid-end?A2 is its replacement/successor rite?

ya, F1A2 newer, replaced F1A1

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Mar 12 2012, 02:33 PM

Better maintain your 205/55/R16 specs since you want comfort as well.
Just change to lightweight rims & use either PS3, Hankook V12 or Yokohama C.Drive 2. Switching to 45 profile will definately sacrifice a lot of comfort and handling gains won't be much unless you want to use this car for track.

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Added on March 12, 2012, 2:52 pmGoodyear tyres are also recommended, especially their new F1 Series, but reviews have commented they are noisy, but handling is superb.
Can even be better than PS3.

This post has been edited by DSV4600: Mar 12 2012, 02:52 PM

how much F1A1?its performance will b on par with v12 and t1r?

lets say if i use 215/50/R17 or 215/55/R17 tyres will it b ok?i won't b going for the new F1 series coz over budget liao...im' hoping mayb F1A1 got similar performance as v12 or c.drive2...will it b?how much per piece?

If you die-die going for 17' rims, then please follow TRD specs since I saw someone posting it earlier.
For tyre choice, it's very subjective. One man's poison, another man's meat. For me, I'm a Hankook kaki.
If I can't find Hankook, then I would go for Michelin PS3 as 2nd choice, since I saw it in action at the 4G1 Series track day yesterday in the wet. Superb water dispersion & grip, even when tyres was almost bald.

For price of tyres, please refer to Tyre Price list here or at Autoworld.

hmm ok...then u got experience using v12?how was it?

warmed semi slicks also damn good in wet (LOL! )

anyways TS: you need to be more specific on your performance/comfort priorities.

if comfort is your priority, c.drive 2 or even the high end advan Db is among the best choice one can have for tires

hmm...more inclined towards better handling and cornering stability but not 2 the extent whole ride became very bumpy and noisy lo

I'm using Ventus V8 AKA V2 Blackbird. Superb handling & grip, wet weather is excellent.
My friend is using V12, same feedback, but even better. Sat with him yesterday as he speed around Dato Sagor in the wet.

kinda expected tat...saw a few good reviews on v12...seems like a mid-end all rounder choice of tyre..is it better to change to 215/45/R17 profile or stick to 205/55/R16 profile but change better tyre?

If you don't want bumpyness or rough ride, trust me, stick to stock specifications (50 - 60) profile and switch to UHP (Ultra High Performance Tyres).

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Added on March 12, 2012, 5:11 pmIf you still feel unsatisfied, then switch to 17" after your new set needs replacement. At least you've tested for yourself.

This post has been edited by DSV4600: Mar 12 2012, 05:11 PM

F1A2 if u see the review, pwn all UHP tire. ( for both dry and wet)

F1A2, Ps3, F1D5,CSC3/CSC5. 1st one F1A2 is the best, and PS3 so on.

the rest are pocket friendly, but in the wet must be careful.

those 4 above are emphasis on both dry and wet.

but, they are not cheap

the rest of the tire, just dont drive so fast in the wet, all should be ok.

hell yeah they r fukken expensive lol...i'm not driving porsche or lambo 2 begin with so no need la...hehe...i'm thinking of getting either F1A1, V12, PS2, c.drive or CSC3...any feedback?i will b sticking to stock (205/55/R16) profile...not sure bout pricing for F1A1, PS2, CSC3 and c.drive for this tyre profile...initially thinking of getting t1r but mostly review say t1 sport good wor...

if you got the dough, you can look into advan db instead of c.drive 2. additional nano compound, more complex treading design.

main features of less rolling resistance and superior reduction in NVH (the c.drive 2 is basically a cheapened/scaled down version of it after all)

how bout s.drive?i'm referring to c.drive (not sure still on sale or not)...not c.drive 2...

anyway my budget not >400/piece for sure lol...

s.drive are more for performance. and if you want good wet grip too, these are not for you. they are better on dry grip. comfort wise its nothing to shout about.

c.drive is vastly inferior to c.drive 2. no point to look back to c.drive

and i guess advan db is out of your budget

hmm...how come i see review on c.drive better than c.drive2 lolz...not sure wat's the reason

c.drive have better treadwear, and probably slightly better performance. however it defeats the purpose of marketing it as a comfort/silent tire. C.drive 2 excels much more in that, at the cost of treadwear due to very soft compound.

if you're not a very heavy driver, it matters not as you will need to change your tires around 3ish years even if the treading is still good as rubber ages and hardens under weather conditions anyways.

hmm...not sure if my occassional spirited driving style can b categorized into heavy driver haha...if i driving alone (true for most of the time) surely hantam the car one...

i drive my car at 150+ km/h and whack some corners hard if thats what you're wondering. and yes i am a c.drive 2 user.

i did that too....with ps3....in the rain



drive carefully TS

i think in rain i went 130-140 max.

c.drive 2 compound auto hardens during wet/cold conditions, which increases its NVH considerably and that defeats the purpose of having a comfort/silent tire. that, and yokohama has never been a top performer in wet performance, so nothing to shout about on their wet performance in almost every model they have.

still, the noise on a hardened c.drive 2 is still NOTHING compared to semi-slick tires

lolz me 2...and i did it wif my myvi

then y r u using c.drive2 then lol...since u said nt really gd for our type of driving???

ahaha...i never do tat in the rain man...nt scared later skidded then terbalik meh...hehe..i think u r the 1 who should drive more carefully...

very tempting to go for GY F1A1...guys do u know how much roughly?last year introduced onli...now gt A2 liao should reduce price alrdy kua...i'm guessing bout 400ish?mayb slightly more...

This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 12 2012, 07:56 PM

yaya, u are right that time was....a little high on the adrenaline, lol.

i want the best nvh tire within my budget. nothing besides the c.drive 2 fits that.

yea, i had c drive before, a good tire indeed. will get that c drive 2 for 14 inches size.

not sure if can get for 14"

as yokohama in malaysia (especially c.drive 2) can be a b**** in supply. they may have produced that size in japan/other countries, however if malaysia distro has really low demand on that size, they will just totally not import at all :/

c.drive 2 generally comes from Philippines btw, and minor/some from Thailand.
really shitty production rate and have severe outage in almost every tire shop i visit in the KV that deals with yokohama, many frustrations were had while looking for my R15, i actually wanted either 185/55/r15 or 195/50/r15. in the end settled for 195/55/15 as i couldnt get the wanted sizes (managed to get 195/60/15 for mom as per nissan sentra stock spec though) and lazy to wait any longer (few months wait, btw)

anyone got price info for GY F1A1 or not?looks damn good...but duno price good 4 my pocket or not

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Added on March 13, 2012, 11:35 amguys any price info for:

205/55/R16
1. Goodyear F1 Asy
2. Yokohama s.drive
3. Michelin PS2
4. Continental SportContact 3
5. Michelin Pilot Super Sport

215/45/R17
1. Michelin PS2
2. Yokohama s.drive
3. Continental SportContact 3
4. Michelin Pilot Super Sport



This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 13 2012, 11:35 AM

Think about it, Toyota Altis is a family sedan and it's recommended for comfort drive, you don't need to spend a fortune to get the 'best' tyre that costs rm500 above so that you get the extra grip to speed >180km/h

Yokohama have some nice series that floats arn 300+ to 400.
A drive R1 & C drive is decent enough to pair with Altis, with softer compound means it will absorb road noise so you get a even quieter driving experience.

ps: you change rim + tyre already void warranty so why not just change the entire suspension?

This post has been edited by eddychstu: Mar 13 2012, 07:12 PM

err i think i said somewhere in the replies that i'm looking for below 400 lolz...and yes decent ones are priced 300+ to 400...actually i'm getting tyre which can grip well during rain and fast cornering, and feels stable while cruising at high speed...i know altis is floaty and not good in fast cornering...and yes i'll b installing bars...for now i can think of those brands and corresponding series which are <400...at least i think...i duno the current price for some of them since there are no price info on them in the tyre price list topic...

lol entire suspension will even cost more swt

This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 13 2012, 08:37 PM

fast cornering + safe = low ride = new suspension.

Tire alone wont be the saviour try pm this guy for reasonably priced Yokohama tires.

i know but at least will improve handling for altis lo...next time onli change suspension...btw the guy u recommended onli sells yokohama?

i think the main business is Yokohama and Nexen, but you'll be able to find continental and some other brands in his shop, friendly chap

highly recommended, been dealing with him for my recent 2 sets (of 8 pieces) if tires lol.

c.drive 2 prices also amongst the cheapest (220-230 compared to the usual 230-250 price hike due to low supply ) in KV, and most importantly he got them while other shops dont lol

yea alrdy pm him...do u guys hv any recommendation for lightweight nice rims?mid range priced rim would do la...

advanti light weight rims are "cheap and cheerful". lol

basically original too, too cheap to be worth imitating for LOL!

=edit=
i have a picture of my wheels and including review too on his thread

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 14 2012, 06:53 PM

Here's what i upgraded to recently, 8kg nett per rim. Enkei sc22

wow nice rim how much total damage for rim alone?i see u r using 215/45/R17 size tyre...wat's ur rim's pcd?

damage 1.8k, pcd 100 offset 45

wow quite a premium price u paid for there...hmm...5x100 17"...wat's ur opinion on advanti and OZ?

1.8k consider ok price to pay for original rims.

i've no experience on avanti, o.z is even more expensive if you get the original easily cost over 4k and finding pcd100 is the pain in the a$$, you know what i mean

if you are looking for a reliable and light weight imitation, try Advan Racing wheel, design is more subtle and the weight is really light, price arn 1-1.2k.

This post has been edited by eddychstu: Mar 15 2012, 06:02 PM