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Honda hybrid anyone?, honda hybrid, civic, insight, crz
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TShellonabil
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Mar 9 2012, 04:10 PM, updated 14y ago
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Dear members of the media,
My name is Latifah, 55, mother of four, from Malaysia, and I am also a Honda Civic Hybrid owner.
I would assume that with all the recent hype behind the Class Action lawsuit against Honda in the US on grounds of cheating mileage claim and also Heather Peters vs American Honda Inc case at California Small Claims Court, that you would have probably guessed where my story is heading...
Well, to cut a long story short, my Honda Civic Hybrid's IMA battery went kaput after a year and ten months of owning it from brand new.
My HCH is one of the earlier Hybrid to be purchased in this country. I am not so fussed about the failed technology part of it, as this can happen to the very best of us, but I am very concerned and terribly upset about how Honda ridiculed and humiliated a customer who is an early adopter of their Hybrid technology.
Instead of helping me out with a technology, that they admit is still in its infancy, the company decided to make an example of me, a caution to all and any hybrid buyers that there are no sympathy from Honda if the expensive IMA battery fails.
My initial requested to Honda was for a straightforward battery replacement, but they refused. Insisting that the fault with the car occurred outside of the warranty period.
Having exhausted all avenues of communication with the company, including writing directly to the CEO and receiving no evidence of customer care, we had no choice but to seek compensation through the Malaysian Consumer Tribunal late last year.
Even at this point, Honda refused to make an offer for reasonable battery replacement but instead came up with non-sense terms and warranty which I rejected.
The Consumer Tribunal Court here disallow lawyers to represent parties in order to keep cost to a minimum and give access to everyone, and without the benefit of fancy legal jargon to defend themselves against my simple statement of facts, Honda lost.
To put it simply the tribunal found that Honda and the dealer that sold me the car was unable to defend their false advertising that claim of 10-12 years lifespan for the IMA battery.
The tribunal ordered them to pay me back an equivalent of US$7,000 in compensation.
Just like in Heather Peter's case, Honda in Malaysia appealed for a judicial review at the High Court shortly after. I can only release the Consumer Tribunal Grounds for Judgement here as my High Court case is still active.
After plenty of spinning and hair splitting by their lawyers, it seems like Honda may get their way after all through the legal channel of this country. But I will have to wait for the verdict to be release 27th of this month.
Yes my story does sound like another typical narration of a victim of corporate fraud who then gets away with it because they can afford expensive lawyers who will do anything to get their clients off the hook.
The reason why I am writing this is to seek help from International Media to actually cover my story.
My story is minimally picked up by the media here especially the motoring media as most of them are in the pocket of Honda's advertising department.
I wrote to the authority and govt agency here, but no one seems interested to entertain my complaints either.
Meanwhile, Honda enjoys maximum advertising coverage for their Hybrid range by bringing in more Hybrid cars here due to tax incentives. The victim – the public here then blindly buys a Honda Hybrid without knowing that Honda will turn on them if once the dirt hits the fan.
This is not about my loss any more, this is about principles and my rights as a customer.
If this was back in the days of glorious Japanese industrial standards and discipline, nothing less of Harakiri would be expected from Honda's CEO if a blunder like this were to take place.
Today, they can pat each other on the back congratulating on their sales success for their infamous fraudulent green car.
Hope this finds you well. I am more than happy to answer any questions and I will be grateful with any help that I can get.
Best wishes,
Latifah
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mancy
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Mar 9 2012, 04:17 PM
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i tot warranty is 3 years... why 1 year ++ oredi no warranty?
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monster2020
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Mar 9 2012, 04:23 PM
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if not mistaken i read from some where before got some malaysian people also have this issue and the senario is the same as you.
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MissCollagen
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Mar 9 2012, 04:24 PM
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yea..y 1 year?
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mancy
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Mar 9 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Mar 9 2012, 04:23 PM) if not mistaken i read from some where before got some malaysian people also have this issue and the senario is the same as you. but why no more warranty after a year? it should be 3 years
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turbocharged
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Mar 9 2012, 04:34 PM
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why only 1 year ++ ? you mean they take the rm300 battery(even kancil using this kind of battery) warranty as the hybrid battery warranty?
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mancy
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Mar 9 2012, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 9 2012, 04:34 PM) why only 1 year ++ ? you mean they take the rm300 battery(even kancil using this kind of battery) warranty as the hybrid battery warranty? even the normal battery is 2 years warranty not 1 year
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katijar
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Mar 9 2012, 04:43 PM
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"We offer 5 years warranty or 140,000km (whichever comes first) for IMA battery only."
now is 5 years...
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watonk
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Mar 9 2012, 04:43 PM
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IMA battery warranty now is 5 years.
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mancy
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Mar 9 2012, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 9 2012, 04:43 PM) IMA battery warranty now is 5 years. so why ts claim that the IMA batt is out of warranty while she only using the car for 1 year ++ or maybe ts warranty is void becoz she did some mod or she did not service the car at authorised serv ctr
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ckk125
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Mar 9 2012, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(mancy @ Mar 9 2012, 05:45 PM) so why ts claim that the IMA batt is out of warranty while she only using the car for 1 year ++ or maybe ts warranty is void becoz she did some mod or she did not service the car at authorised serv ctr that was due to an old case, after that only they offered 5 years warranty.
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mancy
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Mar 9 2012, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Mar 9 2012, 05:59 PM) that was due to an old case, after that only they offered 5 years warranty. ok, that's explain why
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dares
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Mar 9 2012, 06:10 PM
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Dem, and I was lookng to see if the Jazz hybrid could be a good buy.
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bafukie
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Mar 9 2012, 07:29 PM
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This does not happen to just Honda by the way. I sincerely hope that the outcome will favor u end of this month. Cheers and be strong.
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calvin_ng
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Mar 12 2012, 10:00 AM
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The civic Hybrid IMA battery (Before HM intro 5 yeard warranty) is warranty for 3 years or 100,000km
unless TS travel more than 100k km in 1 year.... it doesnt make sense....
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staticxtreme
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Mar 15 2012, 03:03 PM
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this one old story la
now got 5 yr warranty alreayd what..
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squalluz
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Mar 15 2012, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(staticxtreme @ Mar 15 2012, 03:03 PM) this one old story la now got 5 yr warranty alreayd what.. Good for you to support this kind of company
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stanicmail
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Mar 29 2012, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2012, 06:10 PM) Dem, and I was lookng to see if the Jazz hybrid could be a good buy.  Me too. I thought want to change my car
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Swordsmen
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Mar 29 2012, 03:17 PM
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Cool story latifah.. without prove and sources, paling kurang should provide screenshot complain documents, service recipt bla2
This post has been edited by Swordsmen: Mar 29 2012, 03:25 PM
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Swordsmen
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Mar 29 2012, 03:19 PM
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Then after open thred TS gone senyap also.. ptuii  this kind of unproven cool story shouldn't be trusted QUOTE Group: New Member Posts: 0
Joined: Mar 2012 This post has been edited by Swordsmen: Mar 29 2012, 03:26 PM
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fr4g*st3r
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Mar 29 2012, 04:01 PM
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I just found the culprit, it's a Toyota SA. Now popcorn please
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jesseliew
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Mar 31 2012, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(fr4g*st3r @ Mar 29 2012, 04:01 PM) I just found the culprit, it's a Toyota SA. Now popcorn please  you f***ing idiot...this no small matter...toyota ppl dont do this...they have more honor... Added on March 31, 2012, 7:15 pmbad new every1...just got an email frm jornalist fren...this lady latifah lost her case at high court mah...so honda supporters will be very happy...but this is problem for all hybrid driver lor...no justice in msia... This post has been edited by jesseliew: Mar 31 2012, 07:15 PM
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unig
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Apr 1 2012, 10:23 AM
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HSD vs. IMA explained very briefly... in japanese though... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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SeraphimGecko
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Jul 26 2012, 01:56 PM
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True story ?
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