its not im racist, its the situation and policies of government and certain parties. dun be naive into thinking everything is pure. there is a race quota of 80% bumi and 20% non bumi. its on newspaper and said by the Petronas CEO. i had alot of good malay friends. in the past i choose not to believe in racial bias, but i got friends who all apply for petronas. even the 3.9, 3.8, 3.7 (chinese) cant even get the interview while the 3.1, 2.8 get interview AND the job as well. as u can see here, the ratio is 3:1 , malay : chinese.
since im extending, my batchmate who already graduated and working in petronas is the only chinese in the department. and also she's lucky to got it since she had petronas scholarship bond.
of cz people are denial and claim they are fair but things always happen under the table.

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Added on May 8, 2012, 5:00 pmthe fact that petronas is always associated with racial quota is because there's a certain truth to it. its on newspaper, ppl talking bout it, insiders revealing info (HR ppl), connection n etc.
i too applied for petronas and hopefuly i can get it but lets see how

This post has been edited by weekeng911: May 8 2012, 05:00 PM

im sry. i didnt meant to say racial quota. it is the current ratio but it implied that the influx of bumi joining petronas is much higher than non bumis though u can regard that as bumi population > non.
yea u r right about saying they look at other achievements as well but then, what kind ?
in a standard resume, most of our achievements are pretty much similar unless ur some sort national champion or wudsoeva. therefore, the priority is still the pointer. otherwise, whats the point of studying so hard. i mean, one can study hard, get good grades and good in other things well.
u talk as if, petronas turn people who score great pointers which is a something "remarkable".
on ur point of over achieving, i buy that. i believe that does happen but as to why they did that, i cant really understand.

my friend who's a chinese and get pointer ard 3.4 get the job while the 3.7+ cant even get the interview. and also, i'd interviewed with SLB in the morning and i kinda overperform and outstanding a lil and i was booted on the 1st round though it is for sure the rest that got through, most were "weaker" (in english or presentation/perharps personality,im not bragging either).

i think it's more to "balance" or they preferred the average instead of the excel. as much as I believe Petronas do not hire for the sake of "race" in order to compete globally (i realized there's actually alot excellent malay petronas workers who speak great english), but at the same time, some conspiracies do happen and like u say, everywhere.

i agree on your last paragraph since it did not contradict my initial opinion but rather, a reaction based on ur perception on myself.

same case as mine. not to brag bout myself, i too performed quite well if not outstanding in relative to other candidates who 1st of all speak poor english, not contributing much during the group activity yet passed the stage. i still keep my humility and not being overly confident or trying to be in the centre of attention.
and i cant even pass the 1st round whereby 10/15 did.

do those people prefer average or slightly above average people rather than good performers ???

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Added on May 12, 2012, 5:15 pmof cz i know those qualities that u mentioned. being good in english is just a part of it. problem is, during the group activity, i came out with brilliant ideas and of cz, i do not purposely show off and act like a leader. all of 4 team members harmonize pretty well. during the group discussion, all of the members voted me when ask "who do want to be the leader" as well as "which 2 people do u want to work with in the next project".

like i said, im not braggin on myself, its of no point. the problem is, those qualities uve mentioned, out of 10 ppl, i think 9 also dont possess. theoritically yes, people seek those qualities during hiring, but in this world, the good people, the pretty/handsome, the successful people are like 1/100. i mean if people can passed those rounds being weak in english in the 1st place, (even taking out the note when he forget his lines in self introduction), being passive or not enthusiastic during group activity, do not exhibit confidence and passion, why dun i pass as well.

in fact, 10/15 people made it to the 2nd stage and me as the minority 5 didnt. come on, even if im not that good or average, i dont think im that bad to become the 1st 5 people who failed. unless those 10 who made it are the powerful candidtes with great leadership, determination, loyalty, wudeva u named it but they dont.

wudeva u might say to rebuke me, i still insist on this. i still maintain to keep humility while not trying to hog the limelight.
and can u ever explain why a guy with 2.8 pointer managed to get the interview and the job while a 3.9 pointer whos excellent in curicullum as well cant even f***in get the interview. its not some rare or exceptional cases of this happen, my 4 friends whose pointer are 3.5+ cant fkin get the interview during the on campus interview.

and also about the slb interview, my previous friends who interview for slb said the exact thing. she's already got petronas but went slb interview for "fun"/ to experience it... therefore, during the session, she's being quite passive and didnt talk much but she pass the round. she didnt expect it. while her 2 malay friends (my coursemate as well, whom we all know to be great performers because we are with each other for 3 years, we know who is good and who's not) cant even got thru the 1st round same like my case.


kindly leave me a reason why!! im not trying to whine or whut, i jz wanted to address my flaw and improve. do we have to self handicapped ourselves in order to be recruited ???



This post has been edited by weekeng911: May 12 2012, 05:15 PM

i guessed some of u still cant understand my post haha. thx 4 ur kind replies. ppl said pointer is not everything, i think this some general truth like we all know. problem is, she cant even get the INTERVIEW to give wudeva impression, showing soft skills n etc.. and she won various quiz, public speaking stuff.
if some1 get pointer 4.0 but cant work in a team, introvert, poor soft skills and english or maybe arrogant, then i understand why he's not hired.
and to others, whatever things u may come up with.. smile, 1st impression, way of walk, way of talk, body language, charisma, humility or wudeva u might say, oh come on, most of us are average people. we dont walk like model or like an old man or talks like a president.
my friend, he's just told me, during the session, nobody want to work with him or vote him as the leader, and he has nth to present during group discussion because all other members talks all and he's just there being cool and all but he passed.
what ? u want tell me that he's humble or has chemistry with interviewer or some sort ?
one part of mooi's words i agree. it dpends on the company's needs at the particular moment.
as for mudlogger in my case, i dont they need people who are enthusiastic, having leadership n etc. since many quitting (tough n boring job), i "personally" would like to think they hire people that wont be able to be hired easily so that they stay quietly and obediently in that position to avoid the hassle of keep recruiting since my friends whos working there told me people keep leaving and he himself might leave soon.
but im not sure.
i take no pleasure in saying hey tis guy is noob, that guy is poor in this or that, i jz wanted to point out the facts.

and to heavenhell, lol my pointer is only 2.7 and of cz they didnt look at the pointer since they just call all the people who applied for interview. they didnt even look at the pointer. u talked as if im degrading others but that's what it is.
when some1 used life quotes, it sounds beautiful and easy, "be urself", "let it go"...
to think of it, the world isnt as easy like 1+1=2. its not how good u r, its how u blend in to camouflage in the weaker majority (sumtimes people consider this as teamwork). being outstanding many times is not useful as ppl might be jealous, backstab/sabo u. and there's conspiracies and hidden agendas all the time.
u watch drama hor also can c how good people eventually turned bad after they themselves being framed and realized how dark the world is. sad

to present an idea or fact in a way people perceived as 'emo' isnt a good idea since people tend to c things superficially.

ppl like to see 'optimistic' /'positive stuff like "think +ve, move on n etc lol..

i should start learn to project these kind of vibe so that others subconsciously like or "tend to agree with my post".

to accept sth negative (imperfections of the world, hypocrites, injustice) is harder.

therefore, i should start saying to myself, move on and all e best to other candidates