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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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jacklew77
post Oct 16 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Oct 16 2012, 07:30 AM)
Good one, let us know if ASM works, I've been trying but never works.
On 1 note, what if we keyed in too large an amount and it fails, it seems RM1 is still debit regardless of success, correct me if wrong.
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Yes, they will still charge RM1 regardless of success.
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post Oct 16 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Oct 16 2012, 09:52 AM)
Yes, they will still charge RM1 regardless of success.
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Based on your LYN username, you successfully added EXTRA Non-Bumiputra AS1M units via CIMBClicks, right ?
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post Oct 16 2012, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 16 2012, 10:10 AM)
Based on your LYN username, you successfully added EXTRA Non-Bumiputra AS1M units via CIMBClicks, right ?
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What's LYN?? Yes, i added EXTRA Non-Bumiputra AS1M via CIMB clicks.
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post Oct 16 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(adolph @ Oct 15 2012, 11:16 PM)
Exactly,
Assuming, Last year ASG 6.8% dividend payout. $1 / 1 Unit, if you buy $1,200 = 1,200 units

1200 * 5% = 60, So in the end you received $1,140 principle.

1,140 + 6.8% =1,217.52. On the 1st year once dividend declared, you have $1217.52.

And other charge, The direct charges incurred by you when buying units are the initial service charge or sales charge.
Yes. but that not the only part, the fund units, Net Asset Value (NAV) is fluctuated and will be varied each days.
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fixed price unit price doesnt make sense. if unit price doesnt change, then it means NAV does not change if there is no additional units. then how sudddenly can fund can announce dividend? its like money suddenly fall from the sky. its just too shadowy, to me at least laugh.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Oct 16 2012, 10:16 AM)
What's LYN?? Yes, i added EXTRA Non-Bumiputra AS1M via CIMB clicks.
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Did you get your AS1M passbook updated to reflect the new units ?
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 16 2012, 11:02 AM)
Did you get your AS1M passbook updated to reflect the new units ?
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Not yet. Perhaps in 2-3 days time to confirm the transaction.
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:09 AM

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As previously we shown the message from CIMB is:
ASM, ASD and ASW2020 fully subscribed. It doesn't mention about AS1M. Maybe they did not managed to put the Bumi or Non-Bumi restrictions on AS1M yet? So it works regardless of Bumi or Non-Bumi.
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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Oct 16 2012, 11:04 AM)
Not yet. Perhaps in 2-3 days time to confirm the transaction.
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Do let us know the good news... then we have another method to apply for AS1M
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(doneright @ Oct 16 2012, 10:35 AM)
fixed price unit price doesnt make sense. if unit price doesnt change, then it means NAV does not change if there is no additional units. then how sudddenly can fund can announce dividend? its like money suddenly fall from the sky. its just too shadowy, to me at least  laugh.gif
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I didn't say ASG is a fixed price unit funds. For fixed fund price, the units are transacted at a fixed price of RM1.00 a unit. As such, it is not necessary to value the units on each Business Day as stated in prospectus.


It just assuming, the ASG NAV today is RM1 per 1 units, . Other related question, you can ask Tan Sri Dato' Sri Hamad Kama Piah Bin Che Othman or direct to their ASNB HQ.

Some like it, some dislike it. usual rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by adolph: Oct 16 2012, 12:08 PM
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(adolph @ Oct 16 2012, 11:43 AM)
I didn't say ASG is a fixed price unit funds.

It just assuming, the ASG NAV today is RM1 per 1 units. Other related question, you can ask Tan Sri Dato' Sri Hamad Kama Piah Bin Che Othman or direct to their ASNB HQ.

Some like it, some dislike it. usual  rolleyes.gif
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sensitive issue, especially when you try to change people's mindset laugh.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(doneright @ Oct 16 2012, 12:07 PM)
sensitive issue, especially when you try to change people's mindset  laugh.gif
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No, I don't. Just sharing knowledge blush.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(adolph @ Oct 16 2012, 12:09 PM)
No, I don't. Just sharing knowledge  blush.gif
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by the way are FD gains taxable?
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(doneright @ Oct 16 2012, 12:14 PM)
by the way are FD gains taxable?
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Interest earned by an individual from fixed deposit accounts is exempted from tax,

Such as,
i) Period exceeding twelve months or more – any amount of interest.
ii) Period not exceeding twelve months – interest on fixed deposit account of up to a maximum of RM100,000.

More info,

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...nit=5000&sequ=3

http://miart.aseanaccountants.org/new/down...et/2011/B15.pdf


http://www.malaysianpropertypartners.com/i...&do_pdf=1&id=20



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post Oct 16 2012, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Oct 16 2012, 11:04 AM)
Not yet. Perhaps in 2-3 days time to confirm the transaction.
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It happen i went for lunch nearby rhb bank today. Updated my AS1M passport. YES, the RM 400 units was recorded. Besides, i was trying over the counter to top up my ASM with cash. YES, i got another RM 2.5k. The teller was so nice, try it out for me in several times without asking to fill in the form first.


Added on October 16, 2012, 12:58 pmtoo bad i only have RM2.5k on hand, otherwise, can top-up more :-)

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post Oct 16 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Oct 16 2012, 12:51 PM)
It happen i went for lunch nearby rhb bank today. Updated my AS1M passport. YES, the RM 400 units was recorded. Besides, i was trying over the counter to top up my ASM with cash. YES, i got another RM 2.5k. The teller was so nice, try it out for me in several times without asking to fill in the form first.


Added on October 16, 2012, 12:58 pmtoo bad i only have RM2.5k on hand, otherwise, can top-up more :-)
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Very-very lucky you manage to topup 2.5k into ASM, Others try most times and always unsuccessful.
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post Oct 16 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 16 2012, 03:58 PM)
Very-very lucky you manage to topup 2.5k into ASM, Others try most times and always unsuccessful.
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Agreed。 Purely luck. If you meet a good teller, he/she will try it out for you several times....Usually, i will visit bank 1-2 times in a month to try my luck...At most time, i will get RM2k-5k in a month for AS1M or ASM. But for ASW2020, no way.
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post Oct 21 2012, 12:28 AM

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Hi.
I just want enquire.
I am not bumiputra.
What is the best bond should I buy?

Initially I have RM10k.
But I put it at stock market.
Manage to generate almost RM2.5k in 6 months..
Then not long ago, only I know got such thing like this Amanah Saham.

Is this Bond better than stock market and it is safer than stock market?
I am lost actually.
Because my father says stock market is better than Amanah Saham.
I hope you guys can help to answer my query..
Thx in advance smile.gif

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post Oct 21 2012, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 21 2012, 12:28 AM)
Hi.
I just want enquire.
I am not bumiputra.
What is the best bond should I buy?

Initially I have RM10k.
But I put it at stock market.
Manage to generate almost RM2.5k in 6 months..
Then not long ago, only I know got such thing like this Amanah Saham.

Is this Bond better than stock market and it is safer than stock market?
I am lost actually.
Because my father says stock market is better than Amanah Saham.
I hope you guys can help to answer my query..
Thx in advance smile.gif
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Like usual, please read this topic on the previously.
Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) which known as the best fund returns.
Not Bumiputeras only can apply.However, other minority group will be entitled as well. Such as mix native Sabah, mix native Sarawak, name that are doubted or muslim Malaysian citizen but non-bumiputra. Mix sabah or sarawak included Chinese local that marriage with other local races.
So, if you're muslim. then, you're eligible.

More info,
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/eligibility.htm

ASNB fund is more safety compare with the stock market.
If you could generate $2,500 on your stock market and manage to get 25% return in a short period of time, knowing very well what you're doing and how good the company could earn in the future. Then, probably stock will be your best choices.

As usual, ASNB fixed funds for non-bumi had been fully subscribed. Only normal mutual funds is available, 5% sales charge and fluctuated units price will be imposed.

This post has been edited by adolph: Oct 21 2012, 01:24 PM
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post Oct 21 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(adolph @ Oct 21 2012, 08:31 AM)
Like usual, please read this topic on the previously.
Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) which known as the best fund returns.
Not Bumiputeras only can apply.However, other minority group will be entitled as well. Such as mix native Sabah, mix native Sarawak, name that are doubted or muslim Malaysian citizen but non-bumiputra. Mix sabah or sarawak included Chinese local that marriage with other local races.
So, if you're muslim. then, you're eligible.

More info,
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/eligibility.htm

ASNB fund is more safety compare with the stock market.
If you could generate $2,500 on your stock market and manage to get 25% return in a short period of time, knowing very well what you're doing and how good the company could earn in the future. Then, probably stock will be your best choices.

As usual, ASNB fixed funds for non-bumi had been fully subscribed. Only normal mutual funds is available, 5% sales charge and fluctuated units price will be imposed.
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I see.
Then I guess I shall just stick to stock market.
With 5% return practically I can't really do much with that money.
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This post has been edited by heavenly91: Oct 21 2012, 05:35 PM
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post Oct 21 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 21 2012, 05:35 PM)
I see.
Then I guess I shall just stick to stock market.
With 5% return practically I can't really do much with that money.
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5% return ? It's 5% sales charge for normal mutual funds .

Fixed fund return with no charge around 6.35 per unit or higher depend yearly dividend distribution for non-bumi fund. And relatively safe with no sales charge, no fluctuate NAV.

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