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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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davinz18
post Aug 27 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 27 2013, 03:50 PM)
U want some.....
Come n take some..... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(navink @ Aug 27 2013, 03:56 PM)
i see.. coz u put ASB in the list as well.. I guess AS1M should be the best bet then..
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ok bro, tq for the suggestion. nanti aku check biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Aug 27 2013, 03:50 PM)
both bro, why?
errr... asb full liao... they dont allow any more additional cash inside... huhu... (because i took the 200k ASB loan)...
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As lucifah said, always follow this route:

ASB - 8.+%
ASM / AS1M / ASW2020 - 6.+%
ASN / ASG - floating @ 5.+% (effective)
FD - 3.+%

So AS1M is your "best" choice now, anytime can get sweat.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Aug 27 2013, 03:45 PM)
time: there is because waiting time at the asnb counter could stretch for 1 hr...
cost : there is no cost involved...my office is next to asnb office
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U must b working in Menara Tan&Tan or Menara PNB
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post Aug 27 2013, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 27 2013, 03:30 PM)
Stock market is very bad now. Almost everyone is losing  cry.gif

Anyway I just hope next year dividend won't be so bad. Worst-case scenario, expect dividend rate of 6sen (for fixed priced fund) or 5sen (for variable priced fund)  sweat.gif
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yea. Please don't drop below 5 %
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2013, 06:24 PM)
yea. Please don't drop below 5 %
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I don't think it would go below 5% smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2013, 06:24 PM)
yea. Please don't drop below 5 %
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Wat u gonna do if ASW2020 runs wild n declare 4%? shocking.gif

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post Aug 27 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 27 2013, 06:30 PM)
Wat u gonna do if ASW2020 runs wild n declare 4%?  shocking.gif
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"standard" quote by most Malaysian - "it's still better than FD" biggrin.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 27 2013, 06:30 PM)
Wat u gonna do if ASW2020 runs wild n declare 4%?  shocking.gif
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nothing much you can do. at least you earned something. that's waht you get for investing in low risk / no risk funds nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 27 2013, 06:41 PM)
"standard" quote by most Malaysian - "it's still better than FD"  biggrin.gif
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As other i can apply this quote but for ASG i will bang wall
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 27 2013, 06:47 PM)
nothing much you can do. at least you earned something. that's what you get for investing in low risk / no risk funds nod.gif
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+1 rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2013, 06:58 PM)
As other i can apply this quote but for ASG i will bang wall
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Stay cool, that's for worse case scenario (which I don't think would happen anytime soon) biggrin.gif

ASNB got "very good" investment managers brows.gif sweat.gif
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ASW2020 umum 6.70 sen (BM version)

http://www.asnb.com.my/news/ASW2020_2013BM.pdf

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post Aug 27 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 27 2013, 07:04 PM)
Stay cool, that's for worse case scenario (which I don't think would happen anytime soon) biggrin.gif

ASNB got "very good" investment managers  brows.gif  sweat.gif
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R u sure they have "very good" investment managers? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 27 2013, 06:47 PM)
nothing much you can do. at least you earned something. that's waht you get for investing in low risk / no risk funds  nod.gif
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Hold and ride it out. Unit trusts are long term investment which averages out the ups and downs over time. Besides, the value of your investment is still the same, RM1. So you just lose out dividends for a year or so but your value is still the same. Which other unit trust product gives you that? Heck as I've mentioned earlier, some UT products had negative returns during the 2008 financial crash.

If you're afraid if a catastrophic market crash than run towards FD or MGS but neither give you returns that come close to even 4% that you're so worried about wink.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 27 2013, 07:08 PM)
R u sure they have "very good" investment managers?  rclxub.gif
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I don't think you can be lucky for more than 3 decades and 2 major economic crisis yet still be consistently providing returns that beat most estimates and/or benchmarks wink.gif
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Aug 27 2013, 07:21 PM)
I don't think you can be lucky for more than 3 decades and 2 major economic crisis yet still be consistently providing returns that beat most estimates and/or benchmarks wink.gif
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I agree & like with your statement rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Aug 27 2013, 07:21 PM)
I don't think you can be lucky for more than 3 decades and 2 major economic crisis yet still be consistently providing returns that beat most estimates and/or benchmarks wink.gif
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where is the like button ?? I like and support this statement!!


but this coming crisis looks like a really HUGE wave compared to 98 and 08 ...

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post Aug 27 2013, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2013, 09:09 PM)
where is the like button ?? I like and support this statement!!
but this coming crisis looks like a really HUGE wave compared to 98 and 08 ...
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There's always possibilities in both good and bad times in the economy. We should by now realize that economics up an downs are just cycles which can trigger due to many factors that are beyond our control.

If an when the next economic downturn comes, the warning signs have come early enough for us to make preparations. As the Oracle from Omaha says, maybe it's time for us to be greedy when everyone is fearful?

Case in point: if anyone bought MAS shares after it did its stock split exercise or even you bought it less than 3 weeks ago, you could have made 9 cents profit just last week wink.gif

Or a more relevant example regarding this thread; if those ppl ignored the early sentiment regarding as1m, they would be very happy now because they were greedy when so many were fearful tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Aug 27 2013, 09:37 PM)
There's always possibilities in both good and bad times in the economy. We should by now realize that economics up an downs are just cycles which can trigger due to many factors that are beyond our control.

If an when the next economic downturn comes, the warning signs have come early enough for us to make preparations. As the Oracle from Omaha says, maybe it's time for us to be greedy when everyone is fearful?

Case in point: if anyone bought MAS shares after it did its stock split exercise or even you bought it less than 3 weeks ago, you could have made 9 cents profit just last week wink.gif

Or a more relevant example regarding this thread; if those ppl ignored the early sentiment regarding as1m, they would be very happy now because they were greedy when so many were fearful tongue.gif
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I like the quote. Those invested "big amount" would be laughing all the way to the bank biggrin.gif

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