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shinshishio
post Mar 17 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 15 2012, 01:39 PM)
anyone joining ? tongue.gif

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OTW. HEHEHE~

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prelude.... brows.gif brows.gif

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Added on March 16, 2012, 11:11 pm

looks like sleepy hollow theme from ADA 2011 smile.gif

oh..long time didn't show up sad.gif
shinshishio
post Mar 17 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Mar 17 2012, 11:11 PM)
hi bro..
looking at your siggy, nice tank u have.  notworthy.gif
may i know the detail??

thx  icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh..which 1? fish? plant?

plant : japanese hairgrass, riccia and mini riccia. simple iwagumi only


noob cincai setup sad.gif i'll add after this. internet speed problem.

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post Mar 17 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(sisaiko @ Mar 17 2012, 11:27 PM)
ADA replica tank 2ft & boraras marculata are now available  in store
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woah! how much does it cost me if buy from..you? shocking.gif

shinshishio
post Mar 18 2012, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(sisaiko @ Mar 17 2012, 11:40 PM)
affordable price for sure wink.gif
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hehe.. how much? brows.gif

maybe usefull for my new marine setup drool.gif

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cincai setup show off :

day 1

(8.00 am) :

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(8.55 am) :

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plant : 1) java fern
2) weeping moss
3) japanese hairgrass
4) cambomba
5) chendol (utricularia sp m20? i've forgot) (at the back of java fern)
6) mini fissiden (on small driftwood)


driftwood taken from kuala selangor ...paya bakau damn. how to spell it in english. pond? blink.gif

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soil and fertilizer :

ADA new amazonia
ADA 5 elements
river small rock.

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water parameter :

ph 6.9

p/s :
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tank size : 2 ft tank (old fashion)

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Filtration :

budget filter (modified for filtration experiment)

im adding bio filter at the end of the hose. and wrap around filtration sponge over it.

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Light :

T5 12w (experiment purpose)

note : this one may consider as budget setup at the beginning. i'll add more photos after this. internet problem unsure.gif



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post Mar 18 2012, 07:55 AM

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anyone willing to pre-order ricciaa nd mini riccia? this small plant always grown up a lot faster than any plant in my tank.
just DIY using H.E.L.P soil. im selling it starting from RM 1 for small 1. the large 1 for RM 5. more cheap than buying from lfs

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post Mar 18 2012, 09:02 AM

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Week 2 :

all this setup is just experiment purpose for budget tank setup(long term keeping). you may follow this guide for starting your own budget setup.i recommended chendol plant (utricularia sp. i've forgot which 1. m20?) which have an ability to trap pathogen (bad bacteria) and small organism. based from my experience. planaria is one of his main diet (if their accidentally try to pass bladder like traps.


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pict removed. wrong weeks doh.gif


Filtration experiment as i already mention in my previous posting :

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- ADA bacter ball (within filter sponge and foam inside the container)
- bio ring
- activated carbon and ammonia chips

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plant :

1) java fern
2) weeping moss
3) japanese hairgrass
5) chendol (utricularia sp m20?)
6) mini fissiden (on small driftwood)

add ohers :

7) riccia
8) mini riccia
9) glosso


new driftwood which comes with moss that i buy before. untie the moss, than use as decoration.

- remove cambomba

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water parameter :

- ph 6.3 (didn't check for others)
- tem : 32 celcius (28-29 celcius at night)
- adding 5 drop of yuzu and khaki fruit juice for every 4 days (got this idea from japan aquarist)

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no co2 injection

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lightning :

T5 12w

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community tank members :

- indian dwarf puffer (female) -1
- threadfin rainbow -3
- neon tetra - 4
- Guppies - 2
- otto - 3
- Fire red shrimp - 5
- red cherry shrimp - 4
- sulawesi shrimp - 2

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Fish and shrimp diet


dwarf mini puffer :

i didn't drop any food for him since her birth (specially trained for bugs hunter) i just put her in my tank full of planaria and daphnia.
her main died is planktonic crustacean. this little girl ignored shrimp. sometime if i introduce her in shrimp tank, she goes for ghost shrimplet. and ignored other srimplet species. haven't found any of his family member eat shrimp. they still covered a lot of question which i still don't know why. and 1 more thing. since i keep them from their first generation, they ignored all live food except earth worm. damn risky.

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otto and shrimp :

boiled cucumber and sinking pallet


tetra, threadfin and guppies :


floating and sinking pallet. for threadfin, i just crush the pallet till it turn to.. damn.. what they call it? serbuk blink.gif
sometime they eat what my mini puffer eat.

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p/s : if you have any idea to share about for budget setup, drop your opinion smile.gif

p/s : have found out that my cherry got eggs since this 3rd week tank setup.

i'll add latest photo after this cool.gif

NOTE : ALL THIS SETUP IS BASED FROM MY EXPERIENCEs ONLY.


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pm me best price bro.. wanna try riccia plak


the small 1 starting for RM 1. what about they size? you may refer to how's big is your thumb sweat.gif


im still waiting for weijie mossses for this budget setup. hahaha


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RICCIA root

my little girl interframe without knowing im captured her pict biggrin.gif
actuallt mini puffer doesn't like camera


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post Mar 18 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Guppies @ Mar 18 2012, 11:50 AM)
How to counter Silk Algae, Water Silk issues?
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oh..spaghetti algae..
your tank rich in nutrien. controlling them by using any sucker plant like cambomba. u may try reduce lightning period. but that won't help very much. better remove it manually. remove all the thread. using pincette, etc.. carefully remove it's 'root'.

one more thing, water circulation must be good enuff to ensure that i won't come back. sigh.. never had this so kind of algae so long that makes forgotten to encounter it

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excessive nutrient is one of the main key smile.gif

try googling. there is a lot of ways to encounter it

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post Mar 18 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ryzzal @ Mar 18 2012, 01:59 PM)
Anyone has extra cherry to sell?
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my cherry babies on their way. if u can wait, im selling rm 1 per/shrimp doh.gif

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post Mar 18 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Mar 18 2012, 04:36 PM)
nice setup!
that driftwood.. looks like dangling from outside!
gave idea to stick this style of DW to the glass.. may be nice
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thanks. but im still noob. forever noob laugh.gif
may be nice. actually i'm failed to balanced the layout on the right side. got large open space. even curve line of that driftwood is too steep, that effect the whole impression of the theme. but from the natural view of that driftwood, may be nice. draws attention instantly. 1 more thing. i pick up wrong plant for this long term budget setup.

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That i think fire red rite? I just want normal cherry...

Added on March 18, 2012, 3:58 pmAnyone know where i can buy parts for jet filter?


ops! typo. yeah smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2012, 10:35 PM

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you inspired me bro.. thx bro.. is having a very tight budget, but still want to play with this expensive hobby  sweat.gif
btw, you got pm



thanks. but im still noob. this hobby might be expensive and WILL BE inexpensive if you know how to. if you really want to save your budget, i can share a lot based from my experiences. really save your budget. and at the end, you may sell whatever you get from what you had done so far. i mean, you livestock. $$$ oh. compared with marine live.. damn.. hard to turn this hobby to INEXPENSIVE.

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to be honest,
i didnt know that this hobby is very expensive type of hobby doh.gif
i found out it is expensive when surveying the price for the soil and co2 set  cry.gif
and realized it was already too late when i bought my co2 set..but cant turn back..must continue forward with this hobby lol

^this is all NA boss fault..he made me kene posion with it...but it was worth it~  thumbup.gif
to all the newbies like me who have/almost lost hopes in this hobby because to the expensive price tag,
be patient and think other alternative ways to solve the budget problems because in the end,  it is worth it with the added *syiok sendiri* mood  brows.gif 



not really expensive. but the way you managed the livestock made you made them expensive. wink.gif
not mentioning the DIY. but how you care them about. control all the nutrient, you'd be fine try to catch up any event organised by ADA. its good for your long term fish planted fish keeping

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post Mar 18 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 18 2012, 11:13 PM)
u mean mandarin orange hybrid + pisang kaki juice? safe for shrimps too? blink.gif
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yeah. that hybrid 1. but for pisang, no

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go googling this fruit name : khaki fruit wink.gif
since i'm using this method, i don't have any problems with it so far.. varies from water parameters smile.gif

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yuzu = lemon rite? wont it be lowering my pH too much? how to dose? any article i can read ka boss? wanna try dis method but i want to do some reading 1st...for better understanding...


no. nearly looks like lemon. but a lil bit different. as i mentioned before. varies from water parameters. i live at sungai buluh. so, tap water here a lil bit problems. more acidic. ph 6.2.. try changing yuzu with other non acidic fruit. but khaki fruit is a must. other than that, i don't know.but any tank with ph more than 6.5 can use this method. not forget to mention again. depend on what livestock you keep in your tank.
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:50 PM

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to dose, just add several drops. in my case, i drop 4 - 7 drops. those article can't be found anywhere else,written in japanese. and not to mention, the web is gone. but i may add any related article regarding with this topic if i find it similar enuff ok?

i read this article on 2002.. so im not sure where i put the link.but don't worry, i'll search it for you for sure.


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sorry, im used to call khaki fruit/Persimmon as pisang kaki hehe..
well if u mean Persimmon?


no & yes

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persimmon is a tree name. if you said this tree name to buy a khaki fruit, some native people on south region can't recognize it. hehe. but, yeah. khaki fruit, from persimmon tree

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post Mar 18 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 18 2012, 11:51 PM)
plz plz rewrite the lost article and post it here notworthy.gif
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hehe.. did you ever read DIY yeast reactor guide? well.. the one that i read, need to skip more than 10 web pages to read the recipe part. more 'heavier' than you can imagined. hahaha..

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pray for my luck ok? since my last time reading those article, non have rewritten it in any web page. right now, im still searching. got 0 result.


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post Mar 19 2012, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 19 2012, 12:12 AM)
after some google-ing n reading.. it has something to do with ascorbic acid, lowering the pH level abit (algae thrive in neutral water), redox reaction with Ca2+ n Mg2+ ions blablabla...  rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

i shall dig further into this...
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hahaha.. how's that feel? good isn't it? tongue.gif
mostly related with chemistry. the web owner says and CONFIRMED that khaki and yuzu fruit contain some specific nutrient which suitable for planted tank. but i dont find any 'useful' nutrient for water planted on that time.

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the only things that i get since i read em, even without ADA clear super, carbon chips + less WC, i still get clear water without any algae bloom. well..since you mentioned it.. i may search it back the way i was starting to find about DIY aquarium plant fertilizer..

go! go! go!

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post Mar 19 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Guppies @ Mar 19 2012, 10:14 AM)
@ all/Any sifus.

Yesterday, when i am tightening my bubble counter, the nut crack. the nut tht connect diffser and buble counter. i can see a line crack there.

Can this buble counter use? or i need to get a new? Will it lead to the leakage of co2?
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drop a pict of that nut please?
if u really want to save your budget, check for any co2 leaking first by using bubble test method. if there's no sign of leakage, seal it(crack part) off with rapid steel epoxy. rm 10+ for sure. im musing araldite. good 1 smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 19 2012, 07:42 PM)
so the only way to eradicate this is to do blackout+bump the nitrate up? alamak...
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you can put some chendol species. utricularia sp.... i forgot its name but it really looks like lilaeoosis plant. but be careful. even it eat bacteria colony, its a carnivorous plant. might accidentally catch your srimplet

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you can refer this method by referring to any utricularia type. try reading this info. might save a lot of budget..

Combating BGA burger King



QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 21 2012, 09:20 PM)
experimenting doxycycline for BGA in my aquarium... wish me luck.... LOL..
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post Mar 22 2012, 04:17 PM

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[quote=kkwjustin,Mar 22 2012, 01:12 PM]
Nooohhh icon_question.gif Its goonnnaaa dieee T_T . Aquazonic light so lousy. vmad.gif
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lol. even use 14w and 6.5k isn't too bad. just turn you plant slow growing for a while blush.gif


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oi. cool!! what kind of twig is that? pokok bunga kertas? i do see a buble on the dead twig surface? already boiled it?
doh.gif btw.. might be more cool if use a lil powder base soil wink.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 22 2012, 07:07 PM)
bos...i ve read the article uve given, n using my basic understanding of microbiology, chemistry n advance biology, there is no part in that article talks about BGA... ( it talks mainly about composition of urticularias trap liquid, how it differs under different condition n microorganism diversity in the plant's trap...)  except for one part where it talks about xylitol (exist at trap surface) , where it has the property to inhibit bacteria's colony to produce biofilm (n from my understanding, BGA is cyanobacteria, n the colony produce biofilm as protection against element) ... prolly u gave me the wrong article?
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oh my! thanks for noticing me back laugh.gif yeah. wrong info. well im trying to find back the right link on my bookmark. unorganized doh.gif
or you can read one of my favourite link..unless you love to read em

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chendol planta

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LuqeEE


wow. because lof mouquito larvae doh.gif

im accidentally headbutt my brothers red tailed shark a few years ago. so as a punishment from him, i should care this black-chicken-fish with whatever i have. and finally. it die.. i accidentally headbangging this litle guy

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try take a look on this entire page thumbup.gif

aquascape read-only memory

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post Mar 23 2012, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 22 2012, 10:01 PM)
so that basicly all i need to get? the light i already have. just the other stuffs, sounds complicated for me to setup sweat.gif

roughly how much for a set up like dat? with my tank size
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 22 2012, 10:49 PM)
Ich kann nicht sprechen Deutsch !! haha!! its in German la bos... me no sepiking jerman...
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always google translate them laugh.gif some nice info might be unavailable in english. not all aquarist like to share what they had found out. just like that yuzu and khaki juice-liquid fertilizer nod.gif or maybe we the one who did not ask them? doh.gif


QUOTE(usermode @ Mar 23 2012, 12:36 AM)
see, 300.. that's a number already biggrin.gif
...let's see what you can have in 300.

Non-ADA Aquasoil = RM40
Rocks = RM100
Plants = RM30
Lighting = RM60
DIY CO2 = RM 10
HOB Filter = RM25
Saechem Excel = RM50
Small Fan (Optional) = RM35


p/s: this if i were you, otherp eople might have their own budgetting but sure something could come out.. biggrin.gif
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for non-ADA aqua soil, H.E.L.P 3L brand price = RM 35. also was made in japan sweat.gif
rocks can be buy at nursery around kampung melayu nursey near kota damansara. more cheap i guess.
try buying only 2 type of plant for your first trying. once they grow bigger, cut any part you wish to theow them out and the one that you just cut off, tie them on driftwood, riccia stone, etc. hehe.. just concentrate on fertilizer@potassium for 'rootless' plant such as riccia blush.gif seachem? i though can buy some liquid fertilizer starting from RM 39

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post Mar 24 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 24 2012, 08:41 AM)
moss setup:

- driftwood      RM50


total damaged      :RM585
from my noob opinion..feel free to add/ correct my opinion... notworthy.gif
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pay RM 10-20 for petrol (from sungai buluh), heading to kuala selangor, you can find awesome driftwood. just need to boiled and soak for several weeks laugh.gif wink.gif

that multi-moss, without small driftwood attached?

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