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yu_wang
post Dec 3 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Dec 3 2012, 08:45 PM)
hey guys,

if i use a powered usb hub, and plug in a microusb cable to power the rpi, AND connect the hub to the RPi's USB port? would it short the RPi?

something like this:

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if i power the yellow hub, would the USBs in the hub + the power to RPi work?
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Probably not, depends on the hub. The standard-compliant ones have all USB terminals including V+ and GND connected to the controller IC itself, so devices have to negotiate their power requirements with the hub. Problem is, the RPi cannot do this.

Non-standard hubs use common V+ and GND lines for all connections (input, output and power) so these can power the RPi from the normal micro-B port, as well as "backpower" it through the Type-A ports (since the entire board uses a common VDC). Backpowering is not recommended because it bypasses the RPi's internal power regulator chip. Usually, the solution is simply to cut the V+ wire in the Type-A plug leading to the RPi.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#Power
http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
yu_wang
post Feb 3 2013, 06:00 PM

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I guess for the hub and PC to communicate via the data lines they need to have a common voltage reference point, and that's what the ground is for.
yu_wang
post Feb 4 2013, 10:46 AM

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It bypasses the input polyfuse, so you might fry your pie if there's any kind of power surge.

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yu_wang
post Feb 5 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(stan001 @ Feb 4 2013, 10:08 PM)
Power surge on the 5V USB power... are you sure ??

This is not 220V mains...

Unless u r using the 1st revision....

As of Model B Revision 1.0 + ECN0001 onwards, the polyfused WAS removed ...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/polyfuses
USB Output Power

The resetable fuses protecting the USB outputs have been removed. This feature was implemented on some later revision 1.0 PCBs by replacing the fuses with links; revision 2.0 permanently implements this modification. It is now possible to reliably power the RPI from a USB hub that back feeds power, but it is important that the chosen hub cannot supply more than 2.5A under fault conditions

So the USB power adapter you choose is important too....
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The USB hub power still came from mains, so a lightning strike could potentially affect everything, but yeah that's not really a huge factor. The fuse is meant for simple over-current protection e.g. accidental short-circuits when tinkering with GPIO. I'd rather have that one blown instead of something in my USB hub.

The polyfuses you quoted refer to the USB output ports and were rated at ~100mA. There's still one more at the power input port rated at 1.1A, labeled "F3" at the back of the board and in the official schematics (first page).

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post Jul 11 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(FourZeroFour @ Jul 11 2013, 02:57 PM)
I checked out element14 and saw 512MB model is priced at RM111..Any idea if this includes delivery cost? Is sd card totally required? Because I have some spare 1 gb USB thumbdrives that I plan to use as main storage disk in place of sd card
Would this thing fit into kotak kaset..you know the jewel case  unsure.gif
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I think it's free shipping. Can't remember if there was any kind of promotion when I got mine.
Yes, the RPi is hardwired to boot from SD card only.
Not sure, but I guess no only because the LAN port is too tall. Sounds like a good idea though, especially with the right power tools...
yu_wang
post Nov 27 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(266K @ Nov 21 2013, 11:00 AM)
got any ssh for Android as easy to use as Putty for Windows? thx
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ConnectBot? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.connectbot
yu_wang
post Feb 10 2014, 12:41 AM

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Your USB hub should have its own male USB connector, this needs to be plugged into one of the two USB ports on the raspberry pi. Currently your hub port #1 provides power to the RPi but there is no data connection between them, hence it does not show up in your logs at all.
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post Apr 14 2015, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(kenloh7 @ Apr 13 2015, 12:02 AM)
Hi guys, can you let me know which USB WIFI adapter with antenna provides access point support for the RPi B+? I am doing a hotspot project, and therefore I needed to have a good coverage/range, and able to support a high number of clients.

I'm currently using the edimax ew-7811un nano adapter, it can be set up as an AP, but the range is only 10-15meters max, therefore I needed to find an adapter that has a higher gain, with antenna.
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http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters
This is a good starting point, but you'll have to narrow it down to those that have high-gain antenna, can be access point and are available locally.
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post May 2 2016, 01:12 AM

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Are you connecting to the right IP?
Did you change the SSH server port from default 22?
Otherwise usually means either your SSH server is not running or the OS is not booting at all. Need a screen to see what's going on.

 

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