no offence but dont be such an airhead.

who cares? most likely the person that is going to spend 200/300bucks, perhaps you might want to put in a little more consideration before sprouting something like "it feels good". since, taking into the account where one man's meat is another man's poison.

" I know the differences"

exactly, it is exactly because you have owned and used both these before, you are able to give him a slightly more in depth reason as to why sensei feels better than sensei raw. as the weight, shape and size is exactly the same. it is something i am not able to do since i am only using the standard sensei, so the only thing i can enlighten him with is with the hardware(pay heed, no where in my post did i mentioned any numerical figures and statistics).

I dont question your level of understanding, most likely, with the benefit of the doubt to you, we arent on the same page.
However, allow me to clear it up for you. yes, you are correct, one might not be able to wholly judge something based on just hardware(once again, no such statistics have been brought up) alone. Though, it is exactly because of this current specific case where a question was raised seeking information due to the lack of resource that a presentation of a list of hardware involved to assist in his decision making, which this entire case is about.
Your example, runs faulty, reason being? the pixart sensor in the kana is already known to be slightly problematic. Hands on? shape and size might feel good for ones with hands compatible of its size. Following this example, knowing some hardware might have just saved someone the trouble of dealing with the problematic sensor, either that, or he/she would just deal with it. "probably the worst mouse Steelseries ever produced"? exactly, being one man's meat is another man's poison, as some people on the internet would still swear by the mice in question.

"One cannot give opinions on something when one never experienced personally before"
Specifically basing on this sentence, the one who asked the question have already had a feel of the mice, and he raised the question about the hardware. Therefore, again, basing on this situation, a list of hardware will most likely do him some good in terms of decision making.

Understandably, one's financial budget would be rude for anyone to question, however, making light of it is not too far off. My friend, the one who asked the question have already stated that he is considering between a standard sensei, or a raw, so the notion of weighing these two mice in question, is within the perimeters of "by all means just stick to it" if you were paying any attention at all. Proof as to you're forcing the standard sensei into his hands? Why prove anything when i have not accused you of that deed at all in the first place, "Get your facts right thanks" would apply here precisely.

"It feels good. Based on my personal opinion. Are there any rules stating that personal opinions are not welcomed? What surveyors need is personal experience, not based on some nerdy specs to numerical rubbish. "

Exactly. What people need is personal experience, and a short and simple "it feels good", dont really cut it. As i once said before, at the very least the "whys" and the "hows", for your personal opinion to hold any ground to assist in his decisions as to where his preference lies between the two, adding into the point "one man's meat is another's poison". As to hardware specifications, if you dont look it while shopping for something, i wont question the way you do things.

"Tell me, a Sensei can do 11k CPI, will you utilize the full 11k CPI?

Simple. You'll use your preferred CPI."

Indeed. I am astonished as you how you would not apply this common sense in all areas, if you did, all this would be unnecessary.

Personal attacks? I apologize, to my own defence, i am merely responding towards the way you are conducting yourself towards me. I honestly hope you understand what i just said, though, i will refrain myself from hoping too much, taking into consideration, not too fruitful.

Of course, it is a figure of speech, please, it is only common.
"So basically you buy something just by looking and comparing at specs without trying it first hand? Astonishing. I wonder in future if you buy a car on your own, you'll just purchase a car based on specs and not trying out before making a cognitive buying decision. Wise move."
I have no idea what of the above that you have read would have possibly caused you to respond with this. Perhaps, we are "literally" not on the same page at all. Couldnt be, that in itself would be comedy.

Disturbing, you gave a respond to his question, and now you say it doesnt matter what information is being given to him. Correct me if i am wrong, he is however in a way conducting his own research by testing out the mice, asking questions regarding hardware, and lastly, asking for opinions.
Exactly, it is this kind of answer that deserves time. An answer that i cannot provide as i have said before, i have not tried one, i can only but, humbly list out the hardware specifications for him, hoping that it would be the least bit helpful. However, to respond to your question, both are proton cars, both are razer products, both are steelseries products, what say you? Once again, i hope you actually understand what i am attempting to indicate.
Theories? I have yet to provide any such theories which you speak of, the things i list, are factual, for they are physical products, and not theoretical. Conclusion jumping? Forgive me, i dont see myself jumping to any sort of conclusion, all that i have, is pointed out that both mice use switches manufactured by Omron, that is all.


haha, hoping that the day i report on peeling would never come.

as of now :


phone camera quality.

This post has been edited by Ken.shin-: Feb 21 2013, 11:44 PM

I dont believe this is seriously real. Un. Real.

Likewise, i rest my case, apparently, we "literally" are not on the same page at all.

Perhaps you don't get what I am indicating. Read deeper.

Cheers.

Just for the record,

the sensei mlg which I bought around chinese new year,

has started peeling, even when I took really good and meticulous care of it.

Will post a picture later today, only hoping for the best(peeling won't escalate), but not expecting much.

Exact date of purchase : 5th February 2013

Date of peeling : 3rd April 2013

This post has been edited by Ken.shin-: Apr 3 2013, 01:48 PM

Indeed it is.

Was betting on the mlg edition, since it boast a slight difference in colour compared to the standard sensei.

Turns out it was a bad bet.

On the flip side, putting the peeling issue aside. Performance of the mice is very much enjoyable.

Haha, having those lines of thoughts in my head as well.

When it gets too bad, few choices I am thinking would be :

-Remove paint, respray my own chrome finish.

-Remove paint, respray matte black finish.

-Carbon fibre looking sticker

One of them I guess.