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K.Lee
post Mar 5 2012, 07:54 PM

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Golf R and Passat R is very expensive/over price
xandras
post Mar 5 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 07:53 PM)
Many ppl don have defensive driving skill and mostly ppl panic and jam brake. that's when even your 225 tire can even go masuk longkang.
This is getting complicated. Back to square one.
Does wideness 1 of factor in hydroplaning? Yes.
Does it important enough to help in making decision? No.
Why? Both have pros and cons, cant help in making the sole judgement.
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If I get a cheapo new skinny tyres vs wide tyres with threads that are 'proven' to prevent hydroplaning? Which one do u think performs better when it comes to hydroplaning? smile.gif

Yes, that doesn't have to be reminded. U give the car with best handling/grip to an airhead also no use, he'll still end up crashing them. We're talking solely on the properties of the tyres itself, assuming that it was the same driver behind the wheels.


Added on March 5, 2012, 7:57 pm
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 07:54 PM)
Golf R and Passat R is very expensive/over price
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I think Passat R is properly priced. Golf R, yes, overpriced.

This post has been edited by xandras: Mar 5 2012, 07:57 PM
zapdos9
post Mar 5 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 07:57 PM)
If I get a cheapo new skinny tyres vs wide tyres with threads that are 'proven' to prevent hydroplaning? Which one do u think performs better when it comes to hydroplaning? smile.gif

Yes, that doesn't have to be reminded. U give the car with best handling/grip to an airhead also no use, he'll still end up crashing them. We're talking solely on the properties of the tyres itself, assuming that it was the same driver behind the wheels.
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I cant think which performs better. But taking on hydroplaning account only I'll get the narrow ones
ZenGTMM
post Mar 5 2012, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Mar 5 2012, 02:39 AM)
D*mn.. 1 hour late, all pic gone liao..
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Mar 5 2012, 09:08 AM)
Damn... i missed the Zen's photo...
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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Mar 5 2012, 09:28 AM)
i missed the photos too..please reupload.
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Mar 5 2012, 09:35 AM)
yeah lo....we not night owl...cannot see photo during that time
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Mar 5 2012, 10:05 AM)
I missed those pic too, only manage to see the porto mix  doh.gif , spam halfway here got to watch BPL aldy...
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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 10:54 AM)
Aih. missed all the photos.
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QUOTE(huat0823 @ Mar 5 2012, 10:59 AM)
I miss all the photo... Anyone got keep?
Pm me~~
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Mar 5 2012, 11:05 AM)
pm me also.. highly interested
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QUOTE(junhowe @ Mar 5 2012, 11:59 AM)
Me Too..  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

Zeng Zeng Zeng!!!!
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10 biji buaya pagi ada di sini... After adding in jackyap84 also.

QUOTE(timetravelller @ Mar 5 2012, 01:21 PM)
safety? of course no safety. i poor fag cannot talk safety ma. i just want a car that got 4 wheel can travel and mainstream bit 1 la.. sometimes fetch girl also presentable ma for this car brows.gif

anyway regarding the spec thing, i find that it would be cheaper if i get b-line and mod it as m-line h-line was added lot thing which i don't need it / prefer it..
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Nowadays instead of getting B line can get M line straight.. M line discount around 3-4k, b line around 1-1.5k discount.. The difference in price becomes very minimal after that..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Mar 5 2012, 01:36 PM)
no change also nvm la, cause b-line and m-line use front 2 disk brake, rear is dumb brake, if you drive safely, its ok biggrin.gif
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I check mine wor.. cant find the brains for the brakes, definitely a set of dumb brakes in my car..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Mar 5 2012, 01:54 PM)
i think zeng cut body weight also can lose more weight then changing to sport rim 
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vmad.gif soon lah soon.. not to worry.. going to company gym now.. plan to lose around 5kg by my birthday..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Mar 5 2012, 02:17 PM)
oh mah gawd, its ok la, they no need go attract chicks also, they are married ma
RON 95 means 95% petrol add 5% water, RON 97 means 97% petrol add 3 % water
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Then u use Ron99.5 also ur car will condemn lah..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 5 2012, 02:28 PM)
Based on many comments, stiff ring is more useful towards older cars where it have more obvious improvement, I guess our ride QC is still way not up to par if I need it for a 9 months old car. But then again, this car I have lots of sound the moment I get it. For my city, obvious cling clang noise only appear after 4 years...
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Just go for stiff rings only.. hehe.. Not only older cars.. for PE guaranteed will work..

QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 07:45 PM)
Prevent hydroplane = narrow tyres. But if in case does hydroplane = possibility of crashing and die.

Getting out safely from a hydroplane situation = wider tyres. But percentage of hydroplaning = higher.

I never did say that the thread is not important. If thread is not important I might as well just upgrade to 18 inch rims and get the cheapest 2nd hand worn out tyre I can find. Looks nicer too.


Added on March 5, 2012, 7:50 pm
Yes, u can say that, but that's only in an event of hydroplaning. If u're a safe driver, skinny tyres may be good for u as it reduces chances of hydroplaning. But if u're more towards handling (under all weather and circumstances), then skinny tyres can give u a bad understeer when u turn.
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Plan to take 16" rims and tires.. But then So far Works Emotion CE28 rims damn nice.. 17" will look very cun on my car.. Haiz dilemma..
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Mar 5 2012, 08:02 PM)
10 biji buaya pagi ada di sini... After adding in jackyap84 also.
Nowadays instead of getting B line can get M line straight.. M line discount around 3-4k, b line around 1-1.5k discount.. The difference in price becomes very minimal after that..
I check mine wor.. cant find the brains for the brakes, definitely a set of dumb brakes in my car..
vmad.gif  soon lah soon.. not to worry.. going to company gym now.. plan to lose around 5kg by my birthday..
Then u use Ron99.5 also ur car will condemn lah..
Just go for stiff rings only.. hehe.. Not only older cars.. for PE guaranteed will work..
Plan to take 16" rims and tires.. But then So far Works Emotion CE28 rims damn nice.. 17" will look very cun on my car.. Haiz dilemma..
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Must test drive your car 1st to get poisoned brows.gif
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:03 PM)
Must test drive your car 1st to get poisoned brows.gif
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That day let you all test drive all don't want doh.gif
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 07:59 PM)
I cant think which performs better. But taking on hydroplaning account only I'll get the narrow ones
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smile.gif There u have ur answer. It's as simple as that. Perhaps I'm not that good with explanations. If ur concerns are mainly avoiding hydroplaning, then skinny tyres are the ones for u. If u want a well all rounder in wet, dry and to lessen the possibility or get out of hydroplane situation safely, then it should be a set of tyres not too wide, with proper water-dispersing tread.

QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Mar 5 2012, 08:02 PM)
10 biji buaya pagi ada di sini... After adding in jackyap84 also.
Nowadays instead of getting B line can get M line straight.. M line discount around 3-4k, b line around 1-1.5k discount.. The difference in price becomes very minimal after that..
I check mine wor.. cant find the brains for the brakes, definitely a set of dumb brakes in my car..
vmad.gif  soon lah soon.. not to worry.. going to company gym now.. plan to lose around 5kg by my birthday..
Then u use Ron99.5 also ur car will condemn lah..
Just go for stiff rings only.. hehe.. Not only older cars.. for PE guaranteed will work..
Plan to take 16" rims and tires.. But then So far Works Emotion CE28 rims damn nice.. 17" will look very cun on my car.. Haiz dilemma..
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Bila mau tukar? 17 inch tyre cost high leh.
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 08:05 PM)
That day let you all test drive all don't want doh.gif
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i wan test,ok?


Added on March 5, 2012, 8:08 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 08:06 PM)
smile.gif There u have ur answer. It's as simple as that. Perhaps I'm not that good with explanations. If ur concerns are mainly avoiding hydroplaning, then skinny tyres are the ones for u. If u want a well all rounder in wet, dry and to lessen the possibility or get out of hydroplane situation safely, then it should be a set of tyres not too wide, with proper water-dispersing tread.
Bila mau tukar? 17 inch tyre cost high leh.
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i oso plan change to 16inch rim after current tyre tread dinish..nw still got around 60% tread..maybe will take RE002 or ps3 tyre

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post Mar 5 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Mar 5 2012, 08:07 PM)
i wan test,ok?
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Come TT lo... whistling.gif
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 08:08 PM)
Come TT lo...  whistling.gif
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when?
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 08:05 PM)
That day let you all test drive all don't want doh.gif
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Lol. Sked too poisoning that time till i might
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Somemore at ea that time. Normal tt can la with no shops around
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Mar 5 2012, 08:08 PM)
when?
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follow the club TT la... So many TT also you FFK one whistling.gif


Added on March 5, 2012, 8:11 pm
QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:09 PM)
Lol. Sked too poisoning that time till i might
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Somemore at ea that time. Normal tt can la with no shops around
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My antidote not from EA wor...

In fact that place around EA very good to test the antidote, coz a lot of bad road...

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QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 08:06 PM)
smile.gif There u have ur answer. It's as simple as that. Perhaps I'm not that good with explanations. If ur concerns are mainly avoiding hydroplaning, then skinny tyres are the ones for u. If u want a well all rounder in wet, dry and to lessen the possibility or get out of hydroplane situation safely, then it should be a set of tyres not too wide, with proper water-dispersing tread.
Bila mau tukar? 17 inch tyre cost high leh.
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But when u wanna get thicker ones for better dry. It'll contradict your narrow decision. So its like so complicated at last u also stick to your stock tire size.


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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 08:09 PM)
follow the club TT la... So many TT also you FFK one whistling.gif


Added on March 5, 2012, 8:11 pm

My antidote not from EA wor...

In fact that place around EA very good to test the antidote, coz a lot of bad road...
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Ea also got the stuff ma. Although I have no idea what's the difference between CAK, rigid collar and stiff ring

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post Mar 5 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 07:53 PM)
Many ppl don have defensive driving skill and mostly ppl panic and jam brake. that's when even your 225 tire can even go masuk longkang.
This is getting complicated. Back to square one.
Does wideness 1 of factor in hydroplaning? Yes.
Does it important enough to help in making decision? No.
Why? Both have pros and cons, cant help in making the sole judgement unless taking in the factor on how u drive.
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Wider tires are easier to aquaplan.. But the difference is very minimal.. Unless u are hitting a huge patch of water on all 4 tires or front 2 tires at the same time.. If u were to hit half the car over a big puddle of water and aquaplane, the other 2 tires are able to maintain enough grip to hold the car in a straight line.. If u are using very skinny tires like around 185mm, if u were to hit that in the same condition, it would be easier for the other 2 tires to lose their grip..

QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:03 PM)
Must test drive your car 1st to get poisoned brows.gif
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hehe.. come come.. The feel will make u instantly poisoned..

QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 08:06 PM)
smile.gif There u have ur answer. It's as simple as that. Perhaps I'm not that good with explanations. If ur concerns are mainly avoiding hydroplaning, then skinny tyres are the ones for u. If u want a well all rounder in wet, dry and to lessen the possibility or get out of hydroplane situation safely, then it should be a set of tyres not too wide, with proper water-dispersing tread.
Bila mau tukar? 17 inch tyre cost high leh.
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17" i found ady.. RM750 for 2nd hand works emotion ce28 for RM750, tires N8000 Nexen RM330 a piece of 205-45R17.. Total around 2k only..
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:11 PM)
But when u wanna get thicker ones for better dry. It'll contradict your narrow decision. So its like so complicated at last u also  stick to your stock tire size.


Added on March 5, 2012, 8:12 pm
Ea also got the stuff ma. Although I have no idea what's the difference between CAK, rigid collar and stiff ring
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Ultimate solution = drive slow in rain. sweat.gif

Not thicker, but wider. So if u wanna go wider, best to invest on something that has better water-dispersing tread lo.


Added on March 5, 2012, 8:16 pm
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Mar 5 2012, 08:13 PM)
Wider tires are easier to aquaplan.. But the difference is very minimal.. Unless u are hitting a huge patch of water on all 4 tires or front 2 tires at the same time.. If u were to hit half the car over a big puddle of water and aquaplane, the other 2 tires are able to maintain enough grip to hold the car in a straight line.. If u are using very skinny tires like around 185mm, if u were to hit that in the same condition, it would be easier for the other 2 tires to lose their grip..
hehe.. come come.. The feel will make u instantly poisoned..
17" i found ady.. RM750 for 2nd hand works emotion ce28 for RM750, tires N8000 Nexen RM330 a piece of 205-45R17.. Total around 2k only..
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We assume that the situation is same huge amount of water with all 4 tyres on water ma.

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Mar 5 2012, 08:13 PM)
Wider tires are easier to aquaplan.. But the difference is very minimal.. Unless u are hitting a huge patch of water on all 4 tires or front 2 tires at the same time.. If u were to hit half the car over a big puddle of water and aquaplane, the other 2 tires are able to maintain enough grip to hold the car in a straight line.. If u are using very skinny tires like around 185mm, if u were to hit that in the same condition, it would be easier for the other 2 tires to lose their grip..
hehe.. come come.. The feel will make u instantly poisoned..
17" i found ady.. RM750 for 2nd hand works emotion ce28 for RM750, tires N8000 Nexen RM330 a piece of 205-45R17.. Total around 2k only..
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No need very skinny... Stock one is enough to send you to Holland d
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 08:15 PM)

Added on March 5, 2012, 8:16 pm
We assume that the situation is same huge amount of water with all 4 tyres on water ma.
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In that case god is ur best solution and prayers is ur best control..

QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 08:16 PM)
No need very skinny... Stock one is enough to send you to Holland d
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haha.. ya lah.. stock NS500 for moderately wet road the grip is bad..
Next round change either Nexen N6000/N8000
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Mar 5 2012, 08:19 PM)
In that case god is ur best solution and prayers is ur best control..
haha.. ya lah.. stock NS500 for moderately wet road the grip is bad..
Next round change either Nexen N6000/N8000
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just now almost got the passport to Holland d... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Mar 5 2012, 08:19 PM)
In that case god is ur best solution and prayers is ur best control..
haha.. ya lah.. stock NS500 for moderately wet road the grip is bad..
Next round change either Nexen N6000/N8000
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Kk. To loosen up the tension around here a lil bit.

Warning: dont turn the volume too loud yea for those with parents/gf/wife/siblings around. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Mar 5 2012, 08:21 PM)
just now almost got the passport to Holland d... sweat.gif
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My NS500 3k mileage only that time i go ipoh when quite heavy rain also almost collected my holland visa ady when going at 80kmh..

QUOTE(xandras @ Mar 5 2012, 08:21 PM)
Kk. To loosen up the tension around here a lil bit.

Warning: dont turn the volume too loud yea for those with parents/gf/wife/siblings around. whistling.gif

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dafuq.. The audio like ripped from another video and matched to this video only.. drool.gif

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