dolby surround is practically useless on mobile phone because u need to output it. I prefer my Xonar D2X

why do you need a headphone when u can have surround sound without one? Nah Beats Audio and Dolby headphone is two different class. Surround sound headphones have 5 channels or more. Beats audio i dont think so

Most important your source must be more than 2 channels to enjoy the surround sound. If i use speaker then my entire room will be like the headphone difference is without headphones and with pure bass and clarity.

the 808 was like, pricey?? check out its pre-order price

How can it fail just because its symbian? The issue now even u have a quad core phone powered by android or iOS but none of it can even come lose to the quality of the Nokia 808 pureview? Can u define how it fail?

Can u define your definition of proper camera? Means DSLR? That u are wrong a mobile phone goes everywhere  close to where u can imagine it can go. Just imagine u budget RM2000 and u wanna get a good camera and you dont like to carry alot of stuff around.

U have phone , you have email , u have 3G, u have FM transmitter and also the most awesome camera in hand. Someone only will define what u just said because they dunno what they want. If me ill get the 808 pureview because i know what is capable off.

Its like you compare the camera there no mobile phone or compact camera can even come close to it. Different people have their different needs. Not everyone buy phone for processor. This phone certainly have market for it

I kind of agree for me i bored of iphone . Android is okay for me. Not only you given up a handful did as well but nokia is improving alot. Atm i am more addicted to WP7 . For me i want a good camera phone because i travel alot so i capture my life stories on the go. For everything else i have my ipad
Conclusion it depends on that person.

i kind of prefer WP7 over Meego why?
Like the windowsphone challenge u see for everyday use stuff its very fast and quick i dont need 5 to 10 step to perform a task.

thats why it focus simplicty for me thats all i need. Maybe u prefer the MENU style. I do like the 3 homescreen concept the swipe.

for me i prefer WP7 because everything is in alphabetical order. If u notice in menu concept it usually takes alittle longer to search. Sometimes its in applicaations sometimes in office folder

WP7 cant change to menu mode. Only listing mode. There nothing to do about rangers or not its about how fast u can adept to technology. WP7 no need to arrange if you want to find an APP just press a letter it shows the entire A-Z of your apps so u just choose which letter or scroll to find it.

Yea i agree its a good phone but the support part was alittle disappointing especially for those that bought during official launch cost RM2088 64GB

yea and many many apps dont support or have

no other version. Only one version 

Belle is pretty good already, but people already jump ship.
When people jump, it's hard to win back, especially when they already given up, disappointed, annoyed, angry, etc.

That's why it's important not to make the wrong move, and if it does happen, they have to quickly find solution for it.

Now they choose WP7, but WP7 have many restrictions and limitations; Many Symbian owners may not be able to accept these restrictions and limitations; If they have to bear with these, they might just go with the iPhone? If they want flexibility and power, there's Android. So, it's important for Nokia and Microsoft to solve this as soon as possible before more Nokia loses more customers... when people jump ship, it's hard to win them back. If they start buying apps and games on other platform, it'll be even harder because their purchases cannot be transferred to WP7.
Because WP7 UI is 2D Flat Look and Feel. You will notice everything is 2D flat look and feel.
If you explore more, you will see or have some familiar feeling... it look and feel like Web Page style.

For programmer or web developer, they maybe more familiar with the look and feel.
Well, there is more customers there. I mean, much much more. You see Draw Something, how much earnings in just a short time?
People use Android and iOS mostly. So these 2 platform will be the 1st choice.
As for other platforms, the manufacturer have to make effort to help bring those apps over to their platform.

Now, apps and games are important; So having apps and games, the platform can be more successful.
In this case, can apps and games change WP7? Yes and No
Why No? App and Games, also available in Android and iOS, so why choose WP7 when it comes with many restrictions and limitations?
For those people who can live with it, they will choose WP7.
But how many people can live with it and still choose WP7 instead of iPhone?
WP7 needs to break this barrier on restrictions and limitations, to gain more customers, instead of driving more customers away; This indirectly affecting Nokia since Nokia is adopting WP7 as it's primary OS.

Think of it this way lor, Nokia not considered prestige brand to have, so, the price will drop. Better for us consumer, provided Elop dont bankrupt the company 1st. Iphone, till today dunno whats so special other than the apps.

all APPLE product is restricted and limited.. but not all NOKIA is restricted..
perhaps thats why the APPLE product can survive because all of its products restricted at the same software.

but only WP Nokia is restricted ftw thats not a good marketing!

haha i m still a high mp camera freak when it comes 2 hunting new phone...thats y i still chose N8 instead of other andriod devices restricted with 8mp camera only...btw sony xperia S is damm awesome but i got no money 2 splash 1.9k 4 this monster android