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Wow they have this

I tried this phone today at the Nokia store in Gardens. UI is much smoother than expected, in fact feels faster than Android.

A pity about the price though. RM1899.

hahaha you have to try the lumia 900, the menu interface is better than android,IOS and symbian.
yup, the price is expensive with no unique free gift at the moment. Very hard to take really2 good picture with this monster, with n8 you just have to point and shoot. this one need, some customization(minor one).... oh well, no more camera, time for hd games and hd movies .

Since the processor was 1ghz and above there no more obvious lag anymore.

Btw from my test the Nokia Lumia 900 camera already improved its much better than Nokia Lumia 800

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jun 10 2012, 09:09 AM

yes, this is what i felt too about 808

this experience is the same on Nokia 700, 701 just no one given it a 2nd chance to try.

the failure of previous symbian models is because of the so called "full focus" camera
it was nokia itself not given them a chance in the 1st place

Anyone can comment if there is wifi / bluetooth tethering on this thing?

Also, hows the battery life?

Cannot really compare WP7 against Symbians or Androids. WP7 is a simple and basic OS, more like a media OS rather than a proper smartphone OS. It's full of restrictions and limitations, it very controlled, basic and simple, just lik iOS. Surely, something that you controlled very TIGHT and LIMIT what the user can do, you can easily achieve smoother and more reliable OS.
If you organize a concert, and you only allow one door for enter, you only need little manpower and it's very easy to manage; The problem is the customers have to suffer, but as the management, you can choose to not bother as long as you can easily manage the crowd.
If you open many doors, you need to have many manpower and harder to manage and control every part, but for customers, they suffer less and it's more convenient for them.

Not everyone can live with the limitations and restrictions of WP or iOS, for those who can, then it's good for them. The most important thing is, to understand the limitations and restrictions of WP, many people bought it and later found out they cannot live or accept the restrictions and limitations, end up selling it. There's no easy or good jailbreak method like iOS.

Symbian and Android is just in different league and level from iOS and WP. iOS and WP are very similar, both being a media OS, with similar characteristics, full of restrictions and limitations (no bluetooth file transfer, no file manager (totally no access to file system), no mass-storage mode, reliance of software to transfer ONLY media files (e.g. iTunes for Apple, Zune for MS), etc. These characteristic are simply not a proper smartphone OS, it's just like a media device (e.g. iPod Touch, Zune Player, Creative Zen, etc).


It's the same for the old iPhone. The reason they gave is so lame.
No need to focus, fast capture.
Well, with AF, you can switch to Landscape mode and you get similar EDOF capability... no need to focus.
Without AF, you have no option.

Got the phone for 2 days plus now, here are some quick and dirty feedback ...

Build quality ; its pretty decent, does not feel plastic-ky I would say better than the s3. Perhaps 4s kinde build.

Picture ; decent P&S , decent likeable pictures, I would put it between a entry compact camera and mid range compact cameras.

OS / phone performance ; simplest of the smart OS suite , not nearly as smooth as IOS /Android, similar to a earlier Android OS , perhaps "Gingerbread" on mid a range android phone. Perhaps Samsung s1 like performance.

Application ; Poor , not worth stating. Custom specific applications example : bloomberg, itrade .. etc , close to none.
was surprising to find "what apps". But you gotta ask yourself , how many of these apps are of real use or value add ...

Support ; ??

Web ; don't expect IOS and Android performance. But then surfing on small screen inclusive 5" Snote is not particularly a pleasant experience.


** if you are comfortable with the pictures taken from a 4s or something like Samsung Galaxy s2 , I would say give the 808 a pass.

Cheers

yes, indeed, i agreed with both your replies.
WP is something that still yet to be completed and it's just so much identical to iOS in every aspects
I never had any interest in iOS, that's why WP is not catching my eyes although i admitted that i like the metro ui of it but not the OS itself.

i still dun get it why nokia decided to continue using the "full focus" camera even though there was so much of negative responses/feedbacks received back then. Without AF, a camera is just completely a no go, even apple already aware of this too and started implement AF into their phone's camera but what nokia did was going backwards......

It was not symbian pulled down nokia but terbalik instead.

This post has been edited by feimeng: Jun 10 2012, 12:14 PM

Based on current, I would say MS or WP pulled down Nokia. There's nothing wrong adopting WP, but why not multi-platform and get sales from other market? Nokia is loosing huge customer from their customers switching over to Androids and many of them would've stick to Nokia IF Nokia have an Android alternatives. But instead, they go single platform and expect all their customers to switch to WP. Worst yet, WP is not solely for Nokia, it's also provided by other manufacturer. Now, Nokia even need to compete with other manufacturer which are now more famous, namely Samseng. Unlike Apple, iOS is solely for them.
Nokia going single platform on this is really doesn't make much sense at all.

If Nokia had Android alternatives, Samseng and HTC woudn't have been able to climb so fast today. What was Samseng a year plus ago? And now? I was shock to see their business expanded rapidly and their service centre now looking more professional than Nokia; Back then, Samseng store looks just like a typical phone shop. Where is their customer from? Well, for one, Nokia lost a huge portion of their Symbian customers.

Imagine Nokia had PureView technology (or simply a very good camera like N8) for all 3 platforms, Android, Symbian and WP. They could've captured portion of their market and maintain many of their Symbian customers who wish to use Androids... This is the part I would say, not listening to their customers?

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 10 2012, 12:27 PM

Indeed. If Nokia produced Androids, I think a large portion of their customers will not run away. I have seen many people who are actually attached to Nokia, since most had Nokia as their 1st phone, therefore feel a certain attachment.. But with the temptation of Android and such, many people left Nokia for Samsung, Samsung being the Android of choice because they offer cheaper phones..

If Nokia produced Android withs pureview or just a good camera like N8, I think Samsung and HTC will have a much harder time competing, and not just produce flagships with a meager 8MP.

Thats true nokia been always the top in mobile phones maybe they didnt believe iOS and android can catch up so fast so they take the ease way i guess that was made everything went down. Just like maemo and meego we seen how much this OS as potential its something like android but better we also do not understand why let this amazing OS die?

Dont likely must go for android but just nokia focus on their best OS aka Maemo aka Meego with sufficient apps possible today it might conquer market shares till today. We seen the potential of Maemo and Meego

Samseng currently conquer most of market share from nothing.
They got android , BADA , WP7, possbile tizen too, symbian

There some rumours as well of nokia
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/06/08/rumour...s-to-buy-nokia/

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jun 10 2012, 12:35 PM

when Samsung, Sony Ericsson produced Symbian phones, they were unspectacular at best and couldn't hold a candle to Nokia's market share. Then when everyone started to move to Android, they still stood their ground with Symbian. Of course with niche products like N8 they were able to hold their ground for a while, but then they got lazy, launching phones with EDOF cameras, at rather high price points. I think that seriously took away people's interest in Nokia.

As you can see now with Lumia people are buying it, possibly because it's Nokia. Before Nokia joined the fray, WP7 had so much less market share. Wasted potential is very apparent.

I just can't agree with you no more.
But nth much to expect now, since the day nokia decided to take that trojan as their CEO, they've already decided their fate as well, sigh~~~

and btw,

This is the part I would say, not listening to their customers?

I said this a lot in the past too XD

Yea nokia indeed have the name and potential they have all the niche people need like Nokia Drive and Nokia Maps until today nobody can compete with this.

Lastly the camera with carl zeiss lens

The only lacking are apps. If they resolve this i dont see how others can challenge.

I'm one of the run away too XD
but not to samseng, htc instead

I think MS might bought it over first?
From the way it looks and how the "rumor has it", it's they're bringing Nokia shares down and then bought it over.
Rumor Rumor

True.

As for Lumia, you can't see very obviously how bad their sales and how slow the threads in LYN... Look at N8 back then... or just any other Nokia phones, even the so called cold platform Maemo/MeeGo, it still moves faster and more people talking about it despite less user.

Moreover, many people seems to be selling off their Lumia's as well. I believe most likely they cannot stand the limitations and restrictions, and there're so many great Androids nowadays. Imagine the humiliation when you can't even send a single file via bluetooth. How can MS not see this.... It's just a simple easy to implement feature, even the WP mobile guru in WP official site requested this feature since last year itself and so many people supported it, but nothing was done. WP motto is "Putting People First", but it doesn't seems to be the case here...