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 Nokia 808 The New King of Cameraphone!, Available now!!

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post Mar 16 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Mar 16 2012, 12:01 AM)
sadly this phone doesn't run on windows,  don't the 640×360 screen resolution is too low compare to the capabilities of its camera? will it affect the quality of the photo too much?
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No point running windows; One needs to differentiate between "wants" and "needs" and also under each OS first before suggesting.
Windows Phone OS is a big nono with it's current limitations and restrictions.

It's good that they went with Symbian, all the previous Nokia high end Camera smartphone were running Symbian, especially the N8; Most of them will not be happy with the switch to Windows Phone and being restricted and limited to what they can do before and also the lack of capabilities of the OS and apps.

Often, people see and want latest and new things. New is not always good, especially in this context. You can see how many Symbian users are not happy with Windows Phone after they switch. It was supposed to be an upgrade, but instead they felt it was a downgrade because Windows Phone is nothing like a mobile version of Windows. It's more like a version of Zune player OS, just like how Apple used iPod Touch and made it into iPhone. Hence, why the restrictions, limitations and reliance on media transfer software like iTunes/Zune. But, that's not important to many general users that don't bother about these, as want they want is mainly the apps/games.

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post Mar 16 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 16 2012, 09:21 AM)
No point running windows; One needs to differentiate between "wants" and "needs" and also under each OS first before suggesting.
Windows Phone OS is a big nono with it's current limitations and restrictions.

It's good that they went with Symbian, all the previous Nokia high end Camera smartphone were running Symbian, especially the N8; Most of them will not be happy with the switch to Windows Phone and being restricted and limited to what they can do before and also the lack of capabilities of the OS and apps.

Often, people see and want latest and new things. New is not always good, especially in this context. You can see how many Symbian users are not happy with Windows Phone after they switch. It was supposed to be an upgrade, but instead they felt it was a downgrade because Windows Phone is nothing like a mobile version of Windows. It's more like a version of Zune player OS, just like how Apple used iPod Touch and made it into iPhone. Hence, why the restrictions, limitations and reliance on media transfer software like iTunes/Zune. But, that's not important to many general users that don't bother about these, as want they want is mainly the apps/games.
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what are limitation and restriction of window phone , android and ios compare to symbian belle
btw why is the screen only 4 inch?
cannot make 4.7" ?
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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Mar 16 2012, 10:33 AM)
what are limitation and restriction of window phone , android and ios compare to symbian belle
btw why is the screen only 4 inch?
cannot make 4.7" ?
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Why 4.7? Why not 5.3? Why 5.3? Why not 4? Why 4? Why not 4.3? It never ends and never satisfy every users.

Windows Phone is basically very much like iOS.
Both rely on media transfer software to transfer supported files. (you cannot transfer any file you like)
It will also handle the conversion for you. If you ever buy an MP3 player or iPod before which you only can use a software like iTunes to transfer specific files, you'll know what I mean. I don't know about you or others, but this is so not smartphone to me.

No files transfer via bluetooth (not even photo or videos which you record)

No access mass-storage; Everything must go through the media transfer software (e.g. iTunes, Zune).

Basically, everything is controlled and restricted; Mostly, you are relying on apps available.

For those who have been using true smartphone, or Symbian users, will feel many drawback of Windows Phone OS when they switch, it's like they're using a downgraded phone, being controlled/restricted and becomes inconvenient.

BUT if you're a simple user who doesn't bother about all those, only want a fast phone (read phone), and have many games and apps. Then you have no issue.

Generally, for PureView 808, it's like the next replacement for Nokia N8, and all this while Nokia High End Camera phone is a smartphone running Symbian which has flexibility and customization; You can transfer files and manage it easily; You can send the high quality photos to your friends easily over bluetooth (imagine Windnows Phone; Can I send to your email instead?). In short, the restrictions and limitations causes many inconveniences and frustrations; moreover to implement on Windows Phone OS, they will need time for it, which is why they have mentioned it may come in future.
For now, some people may "want" the Windows Phone OS, but how many actually used and understand the benefit? And how many actually prefers Windows Phone OS compared to Symbian?
The potential owners I would say are mostly Nokia N8.

For many "usual" Nokia smartphone user or other true smartphone user, they will at least face problems like below:
http://dailymobile.se/2012/02/20/nokia-nee...-keep-its-base/
NOTE: That's just "some" of the list, there's more. But some of the list mentioned above, it's the OS limitations/restrictions, only MS can change.

For those that really compare, then you should take MeeGo OS into comparison; It an even better choice than the rest.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 16 2012, 11:13 AM
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thumbs up andy !I love your comparison on screen dimension lololo


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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Mar 16 2012, 10:33 AM)
what are limitation and restriction of window phone , android and ios compare to symbian belle
btw why is the screen only 4 inch?
cannot make 4.7" ?
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Y U NO MAKE YOUR OWN PHONE
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post Mar 16 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 16 2012, 11:32 AM)
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Y U NO MAKE YOUR OWN PHONE
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Haha nice 1 why ask why? If u make your own phone u can do anything u want.


Added on March 16, 2012, 11:51 am
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 16 2012, 10:57 AM)
Why 4.7? Why not 5.3? Why 5.3? Why not 4? Why 4? Why not 4.3? It never ends and never satisfy every users.

Windows Phone is basically very much like iOS.
Both rely on media transfer software to transfer supported files. (you cannot transfer any file you like)
It will also handle the conversion for you. If you ever buy an MP3 player or iPod before which you only can use a software like iTunes to transfer specific files, you'll know what I mean. I don't know about you or others, but this is so not smartphone to me.

No files transfer via bluetooth (not even photo or videos which you record)

No access mass-storage; Everything must go through the media transfer software (e.g. iTunes, Zune).

Basically, everything is controlled and restricted; Mostly, you are relying on apps available.

For those who have been using true smartphone, or Symbian users, will feel many drawback of Windows Phone OS when they switch, it's like they're using a downgraded phone, being controlled/restricted and becomes inconvenient.

BUT if you're a simple user who doesn't bother about all those, only want a fast phone (read phone), and have many games and apps. Then you have no issue.

Generally, for PureView 808, it's like the next replacement for Nokia N8, and all this while Nokia High End Camera phone is a smartphone running Symbian which has flexibility and customization; You can transfer files and manage it easily; You can send the high quality photos to your friends easily over bluetooth (imagine Windnows Phone; Can I send to your email instead?). In short, the restrictions and limitations causes many inconveniences and frustrations; moreover to implement on Windows Phone OS, they will need time for it, which is why they have mentioned it may come in future.
For now, some people may "want" the Windows Phone OS, but how many actually used and understand the benefit? And how many actually prefers Windows Phone OS compared to Symbian?
The potential owners I would say are mostly Nokia N8.

For many "usual" Nokia smartphone user or other true smartphone user, they will at least face problems like below:
http://dailymobile.se/2012/02/20/nokia-nee...-keep-its-base/
NOTE: That's just "some" of the list, there's more. But some of the list mentioned above, it's the OS limitations/restrictions, only MS can change.

For those that really compare, then you should take MeeGo OS into comparison; It an even better choice than the rest.
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Sifu can rest no point explain it never ends. I also wanna ask why iOS and android no 41 megapixels? Why why why why? U said meego those ppl will say dead OS so conclusion better let them design their own phone.

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 16 2012, 11:32 AM)
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Y U NO MAKE YOUR OWN PHONE
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LoL, that's your own photo?
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:08 PM)
LoL, that's your own photo?
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lol no, seems legit to answer his question... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 16 2012, 12:16 PM)
lol no, seems legit to answer his question...  icon_idea.gif
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but u sure will get bored after a while.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Mar 16 2012, 10:33 AM)
what are limitation and restriction of window phone , android and ios compare to symbian belle
btw why is the screen only 4 inch?
cannot make 4.7" ?
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with only nhd res

if its 4.7 i think it ll be a real ugly screen to look at

4 inch is already quite a stretch dy
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 16 2012, 12:20 PM)
but u sure will get bored after a while.. laugh.gif
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Indeed... After so many explanation, ppl tend to lazy read previous post....

Waste effort of so many guru here.
So i am tired as well, put picture better...
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 16 2012, 11:50 AM)
Haha nice 1 why ask why? If u make your own phone u can do anything u want.


Added on March 16, 2012, 11:51 am

Sifu can rest no point explain it never ends. I also wanna ask why iOS and android no 41 megapixels? Why why why why? U said meego those ppl will say dead OS so conclusion better let them design their own phone.
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IMO for ios or android one, wait and see first, knowing their trend, they will counter with other style like more apps, free stuff and etc.

Their (android and ios) main target is towards number of buyer/market share which mean more $$$$$$, In this case is more into NORMAL/GENERAL user. For camera part, most of them just point and shoot w.o the needs of adjust this and that. Luckily my wife N8 for now manage to do that, else doh.gif

The best example, we should see how Samsung doing currently, they come out with so many model+diff os which similar what Nokia do last time excluding the OS part. Test the market...

Simple example:
http://www.geeksailor.com/iphone-market-share-china/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/243861/sams...hare_grows.html

afaik, Samsung phone is a meh b4 they using Android as their main OS.

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boring using SGN... yawn.gif
boring using Lumia 800...
boring using N9...
missing my N8... sad.gif
wishing for the 808... rclxm9.gif


Added on March 16, 2012, 1:57 pmrangers... i feel very helpless in reviewing the L800 ler... sweat.gif
let see if i have to mood to include the review within these last few days... yawn.gif

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Mar 16 2012, 01:56 PM)
rangers... i feel very helpless in reviewing the L800 ler... sweat.gif
let see if i have to mood to include the review within these last few days... yawn.gif
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Same lah, some other rangers also feedback the same previous in L800 thread. Don't know what to write, but many not nice things to say, but need to write it constructively and hope MS will add in those feature, remove the restriction and limitations. On Nokia part, they can't do anything, even they know and want to.

I really cannot believe MS goes this path and do this. I still can't believe and cannot believe I have to write this about MS. What happen to MS.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 16 2012, 02:15 PM)
Same lah, some other rangers also feedback the same previous in L800 thread. Don't know what to write, but many not nice things to say, but need to write it constructively and hope MS will add in those feature, remove the restriction and limitations. On Nokia part, they can't do anything, even they know and want to.

I really cannot believe MS goes this path and do this. I still can't believe and cannot believe I have to write this about MS. What happen to MS.
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4 inch is best to hold in one hand. Anything bigger, might as well go fir 7 inch tablet. Anything wider in terms of lens, might as well get DSLR, hehe.
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 16 2012, 03:08 PM)
4 inch is best to hold in one hand. Anything bigger, might as well go fir 7 inch tablet. Anything wider in terms of lens, might as well get DSLR, hehe.
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Well spoken, they are many can't differentiated camera phone, PnS Camera, tablet ,DSLR and a batu. They have pros and cons between them, pick the one u want and stop asking why....
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i think 4 inches is just right ...duno... S2 is too big somehow to hold as a camera...
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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Mar 16 2012, 10:33 AM)
what are limitation and restriction of window phone , android and ios compare to symbian belle
btw why is the screen only 4 inch?
cannot make 4.7" ?
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Well, you wont get any answer here... Opps... How did I misread it as WP... Blinded...

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thanks for addy for the explanation, i personally think this phone is great, the only problem i have with this phone is the screen solution
gotta get it on may biggrin.gif
but wait, it will launch in malaysia around june or july

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