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miaopurr
post Jul 18 2012, 05:17 PM

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can fit him in something like this ah?

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or

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or

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or this one, already liquigas colour

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comments taken from cyclingtips

Before berating the sport of cycling, what sport is clean?

> Probably not many. However the difference is that cycling fans admit there is a doping problem and discuss it freely, fans of sports such as tennis are outraged at the suggestion that there could be drugs in their sport. This problem will not go away unless there are wholesale changes, starting at the UCI....

>> Maybe syncronised swimming?. No, forget that - those grins probably fuelled by something.
Ballroom dancing !!? Nah- same thing.
I know - what about curling.


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butthead
post Jul 18 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jul 18 2012, 05:17 PM)
can fit him in something like this ah?

or this one, already liquigas colour

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comments taken from cyclingtips

Before berating the sport of cycling, what sport is clean?

> Probably not many. However the difference is that cycling fans admit there is a doping problem and discuss it freely, fans of sports such as tennis are outraged at the suggestion that there could be drugs in their sport. This problem will not go away unless there are wholesale changes, starting at the UCI....

>> Maybe syncronised swimming?.         No, forget that - those grins probably fuelled by something.
Ballroom dancing !!?       Nah- same thing.
I know - what about curling.
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my cacat GIMPchopping skills
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Curling and doping... without thinking twice... definitely... how can those sweepers mop the ice so fast if they are not on some drugs like LSD or something...

even sumo wrestling might have drug involvement... what gives the opposite effect of clenbuterol??? appeton weight gain is not considered a drug rite blush.gif


Added on July 18, 2012, 8:06 pmBMC placed big george in the breakaway group and they are now 5 minutes ahead of the race jus at the base of the tourmalet...

is evans planning something or his earlier "giving up" talk is pure mind games trying to screw with sky..

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well thanks for the kind wishes guys.. I'm thinking during Ramadhan, gonna hop on the rollers and do a 1 hour interval cycling everyday.At least I can prepare for the upcoming KOM..Now I think I'm gonna find somewhere to put that roller into a 45 degrees climbing position..At least get the feeling on bad climbs.Dunno work or not.
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post Jul 19 2012, 12:35 AM

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butthead, good job
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post Jul 19 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Jul 18 2012, 09:10 PM)
Now I think I'm gonna find somewhere to put that roller into a 45 degrees climbing position..At least get the feeling on bad climbs.Dunno work or not.
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does putting the roller at an angle works to simulate uphills? i mean, you don't work against gravity...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jul 19 2012, 12:35 AM)
butthead, good job
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so i wish could be said of tejay... he leapfrogged his team captain while he lost massive chucks of time on the tourmalet and at the finish a whopping 5 minutes...

i think at this point... it is no doubt going to be wiggins tour win.. even niballi working with Basso to keep on changing the pace up the last 2 climbs did not work to crack wiggins...


Added on July 19, 2012, 9:36 amS-Works Allez...

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14.5 pounds and only 50 will be made...


Added on July 19, 2012, 9:51 amNice article...but biased towards MTB

interesting on the takes of small manufacturer on their view of carbon bikes...

Go Carbon or Go Home – Can Small Brands Survive With Just Alloy Bikes?

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TURNER: No. I’m basing that answer on the verbatim question…in the mainstream. Not a high end brand. A brand like Turner Bikes, or any other niche brand, can because it’s a higher end item that’s aimed at a different segment. The big advertising budgets of the big companies have conditioned riders to think that carbon is the pinnacle. A small brand, particularly those in the dirt jump/downhill segment could grow for quite a while on just metal frames.

INTENSE: Carbon is so widely accepted now, and it offers so many advantages over aluminum, having said that there is still a place for aluminum, and there  are some people that really do not like the idea of carbon used in mountain bike frames. If you don’t offer carbon as a company, you are limiting how many customers will want your product.  I would say that it would be very difficult to grow a company without offering carbon.

TURNER: Absolutely. It keeps us, and others like us, in business. It’s small volume, and the number is shrinking as the lightweight lure of carbon attracts more customers. Part of aluminum’s draw is the durability. A dented alloy frame can be ridden for years, but impact a carbon frame and it’s expensive, usually not warrantied and needs immediate replacement.


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post Jul 19 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 09:10 AM)
does putting the roller at an angle works to simulate uphills? i mean, you don't work against gravity...
so i wish could be said of tejay... he leapfrogged his team captain while he lost massive chucks of time on the tourmalet and at the finish a whopping 5 minutes...

i think at this point... it is no doubt going to be wiggins tour win.. even niballi working with Basso to keep on changing the pace up the last 2 climbs did not work to crack wiggins...


Added on July 19, 2012, 9:36 amS-Works Allez...

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14.5 pounds and only 50 will be made...


Added on July 19, 2012, 9:51 amNice article...but biased towards MTB

interesting on the takes of small manufacturer on their view of carbon bikes...

Go Carbon or Go Home – Can Small Brands Survive With Just Alloy Bikes?
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butthead time for carbon upgrade for u
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post Jul 19 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 19 2012, 10:04 AM)
butthead time for carbon upgrade for u
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post Jul 19 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 19 2012, 10:04 AM)
butthead time for carbon upgrade for u
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my preference has always been to stay away from composites as i don't really take care of the bike that well.. not that i throw it around... but, i am not as careful as some others with the bike... and that is not going to go too well with a composites frame...

i have been considering in between a RM01 for my 2nd bike and a titanium frame... but titanium frame choices are very lacking over here and they are priced very simillar to their carbon counterparts... the idea might get scrapped anyways as the costs of building this bike up to what i want are steadily building up easily in excess of RM12k already and that is without having some super lightweight carbon parts on it but rather just configured and setted up the way i want it to be..

i think it's just better be contempt with what i have and live with it... 2nd bike is a dumb idea anyways since i don't compete in anything ever...


Added on July 19, 2012, 10:18 am
QUOTE(joonming @ Jul 19 2012, 10:13 AM)
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rclxm9.gif for me... icon_question.gif for my wallet... cry.gif for my bank account...

and sweat.gif when trying to make the correct decision... shocking.gif doh.gif if wrong decision was taken... mad.gif for doing something stupid... sad.gif for money going down the drain...

brows.gif for the vultures that will be waiting for my unsatisfied purchase waiting to be sold off @ BBS..

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post Jul 19 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 09:10 AM)
does putting the roller at an angle works to simulate uphills? i mean, you don't work against gravity...
so i wish could be said of tejay... he leapfrogged his team captain while he lost massive chucks of time on the tourmalet and at the finish a whopping 5 minutes...

i think at this point... it is no doubt going to be wiggins tour win.. even niballi working with Basso to keep on changing the pace up the last 2 climbs did not work to crack wiggins...


Added on July 19, 2012, 9:36 amS-Works Allez...

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14.5 pounds and only 50 will be made...

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y no internal cabling 1? just like my Giant TCR SL3. haha...oh waits, Allez is alloy bike... ok, understood y no internal cabling...

talks to Rudy project sunglasses user, he praised Rudy project is value for money over the long term and his Rudy project been using for 6 years, parts are exchangable.
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what's the difference between normal allez vs sworks allez?

i'd go with alu or titanium frame too when the time comes.
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 19 2012, 10:44 AM)
talks to Rudy project sunglasses user, he praised Rudy project is value for money over the long term and his Rudy project been using for 6 years, parts are exchangable.
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of course la it's value for money when putting it side by side with oakleys...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jul 19 2012, 10:51 AM)
what's the difference between normal allez vs sworks allez?

i'd go with alu or titanium frame too when the time comes.
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like general s-works BS la... lighter and faster... more work put into machining the frame and stuff...most probably less crash worthy than the standard one as well...

but the big marketing point... 14.5lbs for an alloy bike... although SRAM Red equipped, it still falls under UCI weight limit...

but then again... vin ann's bike also very near the UCI weight limit and it doesn't have composite wheels and top tier group...to summarize.. it's Spez Bull Shit... that is why only 50 is made...

titanium la... we old geezers cannot afford to kena the alloy zinggy zanggy vibrations already... titanium more forgiving to our weak bones... don't want mid ride kena so many vibrations until you premature ejaculate like Jim from American Pie....

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post Jul 19 2012, 11:38 AM

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i read reviews on CAAD10, say that it rides like a carbon bike. plausible?
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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 11:01 AM)
of course la it's value for money when putting it side by side with oakleys...
like general s-works BS la... lighter and faster... more work put into machining the frame and stuff...most probably less crash worthy than the standard one as well...

but the big marketing point... 14.5lbs for an alloy bike... although SRAM Red equipped, it still falls under UCI weight limit...

but then again... vin ann's bike also very near the UCI weight limit and it doesn't have composite wheels and top tier group...to summarize.. it's Spez Bull Shit... that is why only 50 is made...

titanium la... we old geezers cannot afford to kena the alloy zinggy zanggy vibrations already... titanium more forgiving to our weak bones... don't want mid ride kena so many vibrations until you premature ejaculate like Jim from American Pie....
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Thank you for looking up on my Giant TCR SL3...

so my future next upgrade would be Zipp wheels and top tier group set on my alloy frame! weight will reduce further from 7.9kg....
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jul 19 2012, 11:38 AM)
i read reviews on CAAD10, say that it rides like a carbon bike. plausible?
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i don't think it rides like an actual carbon bike from all aspects of riding... but it definitely beats the entry level carbon and maybe even rival the mid-level ones in terms of stiffness...

canondale was crazy enough to put in the BB30 standard bottom bracket they started into an alloy frame which i believe no manufacturer has done before... this alone should have increased the front to rear torsional stiffness of the frame to match some of the rival carbon frames...

as for lightness... it would most probably kill those carbon frames with poor manufacturing as well...

comfort.. hard to say as aluminum is always known to be harsh on the ride quality...

but all in all.. if looking at race ready performance... i think it's possible that it matches carbon frames.. but you have to first get over the point that it is "not a cheap aluminum bike" in the first place... and most probably going to costs more than an entry level carbon...

i read that a lot of US amateur crit guys run this frame... those bastards are very explosive riders.. so, a CAAD10 can handle their demands says a lot about it's stiffness...

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 19 2012, 11:40 AM)
Thank you for looking up on my Giant TCR SL3...

so my future next upgrade would be Zipp wheels and top tier group set on my alloy frame! weight will reduce further from 7.9kg....
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haha... 7.9KG wor... how to not look up... even mine also tak de so light... envious...

dun set your hopes so high la...Zipp and top tier group might not be enough to drop 1.1KG in weight... unless you aiming for 202s paired with Red 2012 and carbonize all your cockpit whistling.gif
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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 10:14 AM)
my preference has always been to stay away from composites as i don't really take care of the bike that well.. not that i throw it around... but, i am not as careful as some others with the bike... and that is not going to go too well with a composites frame...

i have been considering in between a RM01 for my 2nd bike and a titanium frame... but titanium frame choices are very lacking over here and they are priced very simillar to their carbon counterparts... the idea might get scrapped anyways as the costs of building this bike up to what i want are steadily building up easily in excess of RM12k already and that is without having some super lightweight carbon parts on it but rather just configured and setted up the way i want it to be..
RM01??????

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 11:59 AM)
i don't think it rides like an actual carbon bike from all aspects of riding... but it definitely beats the entry level carbon and maybe even rival the mid-level ones in terms of stiffness...

canondale was crazy enough to put in the BB30 standard bottom bracket they started into an alloy frame which i believe no manufacturer has done before... this alone should have increased the front to rear torsional stiffness of the frame to match some of the rival carbon frames...

as for lightness... it would most probably kill those carbon frames with poor manufacturing as well...

comfort.. hard to say as aluminum is always known to be harsh on the ride quality...

but all in all.. if looking at race ready performance... i think it's possible that it matches carbon frames.. but you have to first get over the point that it is "not a cheap aluminum bike" in the first place... and most probably going to costs more than an entry level carbon...

i read that a lot of US amateur crit guys run this frame... those bastards are very explosive riders.. so, a CAAD10 can handle their demands says a lot about it's stiffness...
haha... 7.9KG wor... how to not look up... even mine also tak de so light... envious...

dun set your hopes so high la...Zipp and top tier group might not be enough to drop 1.1KG in weight... unless you aiming for 202s paired with Red 2012 and carbonize all your cockpit  whistling.gif
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where can i get poison of titanium frames in Malaysia? the big brands of Ti frames are litespeed?
how much does the frame cost usually?

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobe...champ_ti_09.htm
$1700 for that.. except it's out of stock haha

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ti major brands many la; lynskey, moots, van nicholas, litespeed, etc

closer to home; http://bikesoul.com/2009/index.php?option=...id=32&Itemid=41

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QUOTE(hianboy @ Jul 19 2012, 12:01 PM)
RM01??????

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i didn't steel your idea OK...

SLR01 is a better bargain than RM01 overall... sub RM17k vs sub RM15k (both stock bikes with SRAM Red, difference by lousier TRP 870 calipers on RM01 and TRP970 on SLR01, EA70 on RM01 and EA90 on SLR01) and some cockpit stuff...

but RM01 frame is a bit stiffer compared to SLR01...

anyways... jus crazy talk... where you think i am going to korek out RM15k ler... that's not including the probability of swapping some of the cockpit stuff out and invest in a 2nd pair of speedplays... easily going to creep past RM16k...
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jul 19 2012, 12:05 PM)
ksh ttdi, lynskey
bikepro, van nicholas

ti major brands many la; lynskey, moots, van nicholas, litespeed, etc

closer to home; http://bikesoul.com/2009/index.php?option=...id=32&Itemid=41
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ok if got time i go get my self poison

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