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miaopurr
post Mar 8 2012, 01:15 AM

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at least get a pair or cycling shoes and clipless pedals. seriously. they help you to train better and pedal more efficiently.
or put them as the next purchase

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post Mar 8 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 8 2012, 12:48 AM)
I meet him in person a few times, he is perfectly normal except is prepared to enjoy the suffer
Don't the crazy ones all look rather normal? smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 09:58 AM

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Q : if seatpost size is 30.9 , then what clamp size can use ? isit 34.9 ?
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:10 AM

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i think depends on the bike. most likely 34.9.
but pronghorn's seatpost 31.6 but still use 34.9 clamp. again, depends on the bike.

read here: http://forums.mtbr.com/beginners-corner/wh...9mm-442951.html
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 7 2012, 05:14 PM)
why need to justify... because $ is everyone's concern at the end of the day...if no needs to justify... means you buy any and everything to your hearts content...  and that is how people land in massive mountains of debts...
function wise, speed, cadence, alti and HRM would be the 4 functions that defines a more complete cycling computer... GPS is sort of added on as of late...

how the computer utilizes the data is another thing... for example, basic would be HRM showing only your current heart rate... advanced and more complete for training will split it into exercise zones so it will beep and tell you as you enter each zone to warn you not to overdo your limit...

gradient in some way is measure with speed... they will take the current elevation record minus previous elevation record and divide by the distance covered in between 2 records

for example you gain 10 meters vertically in the last 100 meters of horizontal distance, then your gradient will be 10% and this will be a gauge for how steep the climb is..

in recent computers, there is also a new data parameter called climb rate... used to track how many vertical meters you climbed per minute time frame... climb rate will be used to gauge how fast you went up a particular climb irregardless of the steepness... but logic tells you that for the same elevation, you either travel further horizontally witj less steepness or you travel more up a steeper climb with less horizontal distance...
that would be very preferable if it doesn't cost an arm and leg..

furthermore, powermeter are very hard to digest and analyze... it is a truly good tool for very advanced training... but you will have to be into minute details to learn how to use a power meter.. on top of calibration to get it right...
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Thank for the great information shared out!


Added on March 8, 2012, 11:28 am
QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 7 2012, 11:10 PM)
not a chance in hell... no bike shop wants to spend hours to lace up and tighten and true a wheel for only a small little fee.. they rather sell you machine built ones which is why you don't see this parts anymore...

if you want mavics.. i think unker boon foo still has them but not the most recent cxp and open pro's... i noticed the current CXP with white decals have a different ERD than the older red/yellow decal ones...

actually that is one that i was interested in as well for the fact that it is a 23mm wide rim... i actually targeted the velocity A23 initially.. as they were slightly cheaper and much nearer then, in aussie..

for 799 USD, and weight at 1400 grams...
http://store.velocityusa.com/products/prod...4020.0.0?pp=12&

unfortunately, don't ship out of US...

australia ships to malaysia, but hefty shipping charges... australian ones have fancier decals too...


Added on March 7, 2012, 11:13 pmhere is the australian ones...

http://www.velocitywheels.com/store/produc...?pID=258&cID=55


Added on March 7, 2012, 11:14 pmalthough velocity's are sold as wheelsets.. but they are hand built rather than machine built...
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AH! how nice if we can get to know Pilot cyclist who frequent travel to US !

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post Mar 8 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 7 2012, 11:25 PM)
velocity A23 rims + american classic hubs + sapim cxray 20/24 + skewers. 1320g usd695.

dream on......

so jealous, singapore got many wheelbuilders and wide range of parts to choose from.
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that is kind of a bank breaker @ 600 USD...

i don't think singapore has much of those as well.. and i think in rank.. singapore is actually behind taiwan in bike parts distribution if i am not wrong... not sure if that was based on shimano statistics or in general....

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 8 2012, 12:48 AM)
For accurate altitude reading, which I believe rather important for your ultrarunning, get yourself a barometer - which currently for tri-watches only Garmin 910xt is offering
me no money...

btw the mean that I need no upgrade now is not really true, just that i decided it's enough for me, you will never stop spending no matter what you do. I haven't get my clip-shoe, my cycling shorts and jersey, my cadence meter and etc.. just that I think it's more important to go on the road and learn what is necessary to become a better cyclist.. the basic stuff is done for now.. cyclist with VFF.. haha kinda weird
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altimeters actually has not much function unless you do much climbing... gradient is jus a novelty data field to let you know how steep you have climbed in the past 50-100 meters or so, i guess the gradient function does not exists in the garmin sports watches...

other than that and actual elevation, you get total climb, climb rates (depending on modes), total climbing distances... stuff would not make much sense to a normal cyclist...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 8 2012, 01:15 AM)
at least get a pair or cycling shoes and clipless pedals. seriously. they help you to train better and pedal more efficiently.
or put them as the next purchase
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think get a pair of shorts first better... dun you feel weird having your shorts blow up like a balloon when you bike? or don't your balls hurt or something like that...

take care of your wedding vegetables first or your parent will ban you from riding... shoes comes next as shoes will cause you to possibly cause more hurt to your balls by falling off or slamming your crotch onto the top tube and stuff like that...

QUOTE(malleus @ Mar 8 2012, 08:20 AM)
Don't the crazy ones all look rather normal? smile.gif
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usually... much like a serial killer... don't look like one but can chop you into 24 pieces with a butter knife without blinking an eye...

QUOTE(noprob @ Mar 8 2012, 09:58 AM)
Q : if seatpost size is 30.9 , then what clamp size can use ? isit 34.9 ?
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it is normally larger that your seatpost size as you have to factor in your seat tube...

there is normally 34.9 and 31.8mm sizes... 31.8 is usually for 27.2 range seatpost and 34.9 is usually for 31.6 range of post...

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 8 2012, 10:17 AM)
Thank for the great information shared out!
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hahah.. have you thought that maybe i have an ulterior motive in trying to convince more people into buying a garmin edge 500... and possible that i am the fella selling garmin in BBS as well..muahhahahaha.. evil laugh


Added on March 8, 2012, 11:39 am
QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 8 2012, 10:17 AM)
AH! how nice if we can get to know Pilot cyclist who frequent travel to US !
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with internet nowadays... who needs friends that travels...


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post Mar 8 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 8 2012, 11:38 AM)
with internet nowadays... who needs friends that travels...
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post Mar 8 2012, 12:00 PM

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post Mar 8 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 8 2012, 12:48 AM)
I meet him in person a few times, he is perfectly normal except is prepared to enjoy the suffer
No, my device have crappy altitude reading, GPS altitude are laughable..  but still something as a general guideline to you
For accurate altitude reading, which I believe rather important for your ultrarunning, get yourself a barometer - which currently for tri-watches only Garmin 910xt is offering
me no money...

the basic stuff is done for now.. cyclist with VFF.. haha kinda weird
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I'm a non-Garmin believer although Garmin is famous. I already have my Polar RCX5. smile.gif

who care cycle with VFF, as long as you on the cycle, enjoy it.


QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 8 2012, 11:38 AM)
that is kind of a bank breaker @ 600 USD...


hahah.. have you thought that maybe i have an ulterior motive in trying to convince more people into buying a garmin edge 500... and possible that i am the fella selling garmin in BBS as well..muahhahahaha.. evil laugh


Added on March 8, 2012, 11:39 am

with internet nowadays... who needs friends that travels...
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If got friends that travels that would be great! You wont complains about non-shipping items to Malaysia and expensive shipping !

Willing buyer Willing seller... Buyer will find their way when they wanted it most... Seller will smile to their bank when they meet desperate buyer... Win Win...

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post Mar 8 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 8 2012, 12:02 PM)
I'm a non-Garmin believer although Garmin is famous. I already have my Polar RCX5. smile.gif
yeah... the thing is, who needs GPS anyways.. to me GPS is always for navigation..

polar is not cheap stuff as well.. i like the CS500 and 600... but too expensive... wait till their power meter solution arrives... heard it should be cheaper than quarq and SRM systems...

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 8 2012, 12:02 PM)
who care cycle with VFF, as long as you on the cycle, enjoy it.
If got friends that travels that would be great! You wont complains about non-shipping items to Malaysia and expensive shipping !

Willing buyer Willing seller... Buyer will find their way when they wanted it most... Seller will smile to their bank when they meet desperate buyer... Win Win...
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shipping charges is true.. but you would have to depend on your friend to get the right thing for you...

if there is any mistake, wrong sizing or mishandling... i am jus wondering how would you deal with it... if you start griping about it then.. out goes your friendship...

it's a balance that is hard to strike anyways... want to save $ or save your friendship...

of course, if all goes well.. then win win situation...
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post Mar 8 2012, 01:23 PM

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saddlebag, pro or not pro??

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a deviation from The Rules #29

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post Mar 8 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 8 2012, 01:23 PM)
saddlebag, pro or not pro??

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a deviation from The Rules #29
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unless you are andy schleck or alberto contador... most pro's don't often train with a follow car... quite a lot of pros live in girona and they often train by themselves or with members of their team or other teams who lives there...

so they would have to be self sufficient and cannot be expecting support car assistance anytime and everytime... they would at least have to cover punctures at least when they go out for training rides...

on training camps.. they would have follow cars..

you can see when fat cyclist went to the radioshack camp... some of the riders and i think the especially U23s do carry saddle bags as the support car would not be able to cover everyone on the route... and they would have to fix flats and easy fixes by themselves if they get dropped by the main bunch...



that euro rule thing is kinda garbage... half of it actually doesn't make much sense let alone being useful... if you follow all of em... you jus be called a poser rite...


Added on March 8, 2012, 1:41 pman article by nick... don't follow what is the "pro look"... ride what is comfortable...

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/bik...position_207609

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post Mar 8 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 7 2012, 06:15 PM)
serious cycling is never an enjoyment..
I can agree with that tongue.gif

But actually, if U can enjoy it, U can do it longer, out of sheer passion.. maybe that was why I was able to last longer than most of my teammates in Selangor... of course U suffer a lot during a race, during training... but then, the actual ecstasy comes once U finish the ride.. at least for me la... the satisfaction, joy.... like when I helped my teammate won the scratch gold in 1996 Sukma... when he came to me & say thanks, I felt instant relief, that my effort & sacrifice was recognized.... I was one of the target man during that race... too bad the same can't be said of the management, my team manager in particular... sad.gif I hope he's a changed man now, he's the national team manager !!
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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 8 2012, 12:35 PM)
yeah... the thing is, who needs GPS anyways.. to me GPS is always for navigation..

polar is not cheap stuff as well.. i like the CS500 and 600... but too expensive... wait till their power meter solution arrives... heard it should be cheaper than quarq and SRM systems...
shipping charges is true.. but you would have to depend on your friend to get the right thing for you...

if there is any mistake, wrong sizing or mishandling... i am jus wondering how would you deal with it... if you start griping about it then.. out goes your friendship...

it's a balance that is hard to strike anyways... want to save $ or save your friendship...

of course, if all goes well.. then win win situation...
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My Polar RCX5 is pair with GPS sensor. hehe... smile.gif
Guess i will stick with my RCX5 for a long time before thinks of changing...

That's why i mentions "Pilot Cyclist" not any Ah Beng Ah Chu who know nothing about bikes.

Will poison him to buy the good stuff together, wont simply ask helping buy... haha...

if buy wrong, together get the wrong things lo.. haha... win win or lose lose...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Mar 8 2012, 02:50 PM)
I can agree with that  tongue.gif

But actually, if U can enjoy it, U can do it longer, out of sheer passion.. maybe that was why I was able to last longer than most of my teammates in Selangor...  of course U suffer a lot during a race, during training... but then, the actual ecstasy comes once U finish the ride.. at least for me la... the satisfaction, joy.... like when I helped my teammate won the scratch gold in 1996 Sukma... when he came to me & say thanks, I felt instant relief, that my effort & sacrifice was recognized.... I was one of the target man during that race... too bad the same can't be said of the management, my team manager in particular...  sad.gif  I hope he's a changed man now, he's the national team manager !!
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haha... cycling in my experience is the strangest thing.. as long as your interest and undying passion is there... you never give up...

for me, i always curse like hell up a super long ascent and at the top of it or the end of the ride... i vow to never ride the damn route again... 2 weeks down the road, i am back at the same place cursing at the same thing all over again... knowing that the route is already a big pain in the ass...

we are all a big bunch of suckers...

competition wise.. it is also not always about you winning.... as lance says, "there is no 'i' in the word team"... everyone is a part of the bigger picture... if everyone holds back and not contribute the main aim, nothing gets achieved... if you contribute and suffer and shoulder the load... it might not be your chance... but, a day will sure come when your teammates sacrifice themselves for your cause...

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 8 2012, 03:08 PM)
My Polar RCX5 is pair with GPS sensor. hehe... smile.gif
Guess i will stick with my RCX5 for a long time before thinks of changing...

That's why i mentions "Pilot Cyclist" not any Ah Beng Ah Chu who know nothing about bikes.

Will poison him to buy the good stuff together, wont simply ask helping buy... haha...

if buy wrong, together get the wrong things lo.. haha... win win or lose lose...
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the RCX5 is not bad as it is meant for multisport use... didn't know there is an external GPS sensor for it though...

as long as you don't mind your friend mess up what you intended to buy.. i think it should be OK... but you know some people la.. will jus grumble grumble and then give the long shitty face.. then the person who is actually doing you a favor also tak de syiok la...

you know la.. like KCNC stuff... sometimes buy right thing but wrong color also cialat... not that we are woman "right season hand bag but wrong size or shape"... bike geeks have their finickiness...

best to leave all this scenarios totally out...
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post Mar 8 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 8 2012, 05:42 PM)
you know la.. like KCNC stuff... sometimes buy right thing but wrong color also cialat... not that we are woman "right season hand bag but wrong size or shape"... bike geeks have their finickiness...
heh.. sounds like how I'm limiting my choices to anything of either blue or black colors tongue.gif
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anybody here have tried riding on MEX highway? I saw a few cyclist last weekend..and seems like it's a long rolling route. the decent looks fun enough tongue.gif

However I think the exit into MEX from kesas is quite steep...I might ask a friend to drop me right at the top of the exit. haha. well at least it looks much safer compare to MRR2.




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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 8 2012, 07:31 PM)
anybody here have tried riding on MEX highway? I saw a few cyclist last weekend..and seems like it's a long rolling route. the decent looks fun enough tongue.gif

However I think the exit into MEX from kesas is quite steep...I might ask a friend to drop me right at the top of the exit. haha. well at least it looks much safer compare to MRR2.
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do they still allow cyclists on the MEX? or was it another highway that banned cyclists?
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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 8 2012, 07:31 PM)
anybody here have tried riding on MEX highway? I saw a few cyclist last weekend..and seems like it's a long rolling route. the decent looks fun enough tongue.gif

However I think the exit into MEX from kesas is quite steep...I might ask a friend to drop me right at the top of the exit. haha. well at least it looks much safer compare to MRR2.
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if it is safer.. someone would not have lost their life there...

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post Mar 9 2012, 09:42 AM

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too lazy to quote previous posts, but i would like to share my experience on some equipments mentioned in this thread, some equipments i had used before

cateye LD-601 (the 5 led blinker)
its flextight mounting bracket was chunky. when mounted on the seatpost, it got in the way of my thighs. i found similar comments made by others on the internet. very bright though.

elite sior race bottle cage
attractively priced, held the bottle firmly. bottle went in easily, but tough went u want to remove the bottle. on the bike, it was like fighting for the bottle.

polar CS200cad
setting it up the first time was very difficult. very sensitive with distance between head unit and the sensors. although i had set it up according to the manual, the head unit didn't pick up any signal. brought the sensor closer, it picked up the signal, but lost it at speeds lower than 10kmh and higher than 35kmh. had to bring the sensor even closer, about half the distance specified in the manual. polar customer service also said that carbon frame/fork may dampen the signal

fake knog blinker
drains battery (CR2032) really fast. failed to work properly after i had the batteries replaced.

kcnc ti pro lite seatpost
the rail clamps were wide, and had sharp edges. snagged a bit of my bib shorts and damaged it. it was demarchi shorts cry.gif

topeak joe blow sport floor pump (with twinhead)
the pump was robust, no problem. but the twinhead was rubbish. used it less than a year and then it failed on me. other users had similar problem, if you read reviews on the internet. i know a friend who used it about 6 months and it failed. a guy at rodalink said the same thing; a lot of complaints from customers about the twinhead failure.

michelin prorace2 clincher tyre
a race tyre, but really durable. used it more than a year, only punctured once. and that was the rear tyre. the point is, not all race tyres compromise durability. you can have almost everything, at a price though. not sure about prorace4. bought the prorace2 back when cycling stuff weren't too expensive. prorace2 was only rm110. original jerseys were only rm150.

kenda rm55 training tyre
pure crap. same tire, one single ride, punctured twice. 2nd puncture tore the tyre, had to pad it with powerbar plastic wrapper temporarily until i could reach the parking lot. excellent grip though.

panaracer stradius sport tyre
putting it on the rim was super difficult. puncture resistance so-so la, high mileage.

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