Hmm, in that case i think my top tube 52cm is fine then =.= 
my stem is only 90mm, can extend to 110 if needed

what adjustment did u make for your bike? i still cant believe i am taking a size 52 bike =.=

47 is my seat tube. 52 is my top tube. I think frame size follow the top tube right? Oops, too many measurements =.=

i'll jus go squeeze some rambutans... i would have wanted something else to squeeze.. but i don't have the luxury of that...

it will be a base to start from... to be frank...

for peace of mind.. it is best to buy a new bike, especially if you consider carbon bikes..

as for sizing... getting a ride on friends bike preferably of different sizes is a good way to get a gauge of how you want your bike to be...

of course, you won't certainly know for sure as your mind will trick you into believing 1 thing is better over the other due to new experiences... but, far better then leaving it to the butchers in the bike shop... at least, you are responsible for your own decisions... an extended ride would be more affirmative than a short 15mins ride around the block...

typically... 1 size bigger or smaller won't kill anyone.. unless you are really that anal about being spot on...

else... go through the inevitable like us... swap enough bikes to find your preference... or pay for professional bike fitting services...

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Added on June 27, 2012, 6:14 pm

i am at that level where i have to squeeze a more firmer fruit like rambutans as oranges and lemons are too soft already and offer no resistance... where have your thoughts went to... dude!!!

don't you know that one of the exercises for carpal tunnel syndrome to is squeeze a tennis ball.. supposedly to help the wrist muscles or some shit like that...

i ain't bull shittin with this one... you can google it...and i assure you that even the uniballer like lance armstrong will back my shit up...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/529141-t...-carpal-tunnel/

so, my theory is... why squeeze a furry ball that has the color of lemon and get nothing out of it... squeezing some fruits will in theory

1) do the same thing of fixing your hand...

2) at the same time you get juice which is good for your health and prevent other health related problems (intangible benefits here, extra points)

3) whoever you serve the juice to will be happy that you are taking the effort to not only bring them bottled juices shod with preservatives but also taking the painstaking extra mile efforts of hand squeezing them (although we know that was not your intention) and potentially get some happy returns (again intangible benefits here)

4) you save electricity by not turning on the energy sapping juicer

5) you also save the planet by not using more un-necessary energy by turning on the juicer... and we all be grateful for that act of yours (which of course some of us here know that you don't have the intention of saving the planet at all)

so.. my 5 big points of why squeezing an orange is a better cure than squeezing a lemon...

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Added on June 27, 2012, 6:14 pm

i am at that level where i have to squeeze a more firmer fruit like rambutans as oranges and lemons are too soft already and offer no resistance... where have your thoughts went to... dude!!!

don't you know that one of the exercises for carpal tunnel syndrome to is squeeze a tennis ball.. supposedly to help the wrist muscles or some shit like that...

i ain't bull shittin with this one... you can google it...and i assure you that even the uniballer like lance armstrong will back my shit up...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/529141-t...-carpal-tunnel/

so, my theory is... why squeeze a furry ball that has the color of lemon and get nothing out of it... squeezing some fruits will in theory

1) do the same thing of fixing your hand...

2) at the same time you get juice which is good for your health and prevent other health related problems (intangible benefits here, extra points)

3) whoever you serve the juice to will be happy that you are taking the effort to not only bring them bottled juices shod with preservatives but also taking the painstaking extra mile efforts of hand squeezing them (although we know that was not your intention) and potentially get some happy returns (again intangible benefits here)

4) you save electricity by not turning on the energy sapping juicer

5) you also save the planet by not using more un-necessary energy by turning on the juicer... and we all be grateful for that act of yours (which of course some of us here know that you don't have the intention of saving the planet at all)

so.. my 5 big points of why squeezing an orange is a better cure than squeezing a lemon colored balls that you hit all over the court like a madmen...

i think i got lucky. me 178cm height and very happy with the merida 903 SM frame.  geometries . Seat height is like set to '80', and it took several adjustments of the seat height , front and back till it felt just right. 
Tonight the group attacked Kesas from bkt jalil to Glenmarie and back.

Going to bike shop surrounded by nice bike with most of them being a sexy carbon frame is a weird thing.. you would feel like buy the most expensive thing that and went back home..

the matte colour of carbon frame paint seems to possess a mystical power to attract people to touch it. Once touch it you would wish that's yours

the way i see sagan... he seems more like the thor hushovd kind of sprinter who can sprint up slight inclines while cav needs a pan flat run in for his high speed finishes...

anyways.. it is plainly his words against another person's words... only they themselves know the truth...

i won't sue you... because i am evil and that is the fact which cannot be ignored... and i am proud to be evil...

chicks loves bad asses...

where the heck is all this gossip? how come i don't get to see it...

unless i have problems with my eyes... i think i am quite sure i don't see any cadel evans in that white space....

either that, or you havin hallucinations...