QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 7 2012, 02:20 PM)
Ya, agreed with you.
a lot of riders lack of experience when riding in group as i can see in Inter-State !!
1 cyclist swinging right and left... and worse always wanted to be front pack...
people cursing him like hell !
not only that, after getting serious, are you allowed to ride long hours? example from 7:30am until 12pm for 100 plus KM sunday ride.
i can see fews in my group always rider faster / shorter to get back home earlier... reason: accompany GF...
"are you allowed to ride long hours?"...you say that like it's a bad thing... maybe it's the mother not allowing it (acceptable)... wife (not-so)... GF (you better get rid of her before you get serious about cycling and ruining your wedding vegetables)
i ride fast (not sure if it's fast

) and short too ... but that is just cos i'm lazy...
riding in a pack.. there is a saying... "don't be a hero unless you are sure you can pull the group all the way"... what we used to do is if some jackass go riding up front... we all just sit back and draft that fella all the way until he learns his lesson... sometimes, there are some bad ass mofos in the group... they will just sarcastically tell the fella to ride faster as he is slowing and no one will refuse to take a pull until he realize that he is being played...
i don't like this way of dealing with them... but it seems to work by humiliating them sometimes...
QUOTE(kindredd @ May 7 2012, 03:25 PM)
Here's an indication of how bad the hobby/sport can get...
When I started looking for my first bike, this was my initial option..
Polygon Helios 200 - price RM 1,500+
Helios 200I ended up with this guy
Scott speedster s40 - after various upgrades - price Rm 3000+

After 6 months...
Ta Dah!!!!


Scott Foil - price ....u dont wanna know...
this is call self poisoning... or eat too much big head vegetables... no cure for this..
at least you didn't sell your car to buy your bike...hahahah
the new bike looks blingy....mavic decals are always pretty... especially the ones from 2011...
QUOTE(malleus @ May 7 2012, 03:29 PM)
you just need practice. you'll eventually be able to get the gap down to just 6 inches or less
i think there is no reason to get that close to the wheel in front... riding in a single file is all about trust... it takes a rider to trust the person in front and back of him to be able to ride comfortably ... and also for him to trust that the rider sandwiching him trusts him not to make sudden acceleration and decelerations....
with this trust and good communication of road conditions... the pack will automatically ride in a tight and safe manner... rather than having to constantly and nervously mark and watch the wheel in front up to the point that you don't see the road ahead...
having good vision of the road ahead lets you anticipate what the group will go through and do so you won't get sudden shocks of finding your mate braking hard in front...
that is why most closely knitted group will go into defcon 1 when they see a newbie in the group, and especially those with the a face that says "watch me open up a can of whup-ass on you old farts"
This post has been edited by butthead: May 7 2012, 04:06 PM