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TSGoblinsk8er
post Nov 30 2005, 11:33 AM, updated 21y ago

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Just wondering, how can a casual player get all epic equipments when he doesn't really participate in any raids >.<
I'm a university student (studying pharmacy) and i couldn't play as much as most people do. Maybe 2-3 hours max per day...
I have a lvl 60 Tauren Shaman in Zuljin with only 300+g and currently only equipped with mostly blue stuff from AH or farmed and only 1 epic gloves only >.<
Sad but true, i have only been to Stratholme 3 times only..>.<

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post Nov 30 2005, 11:58 AM

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if you want to attend MC/ZG/BWL you have to put more time into it as they take longer hours, especially if your guild is still quite new to it.
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post Nov 30 2005, 01:11 PM

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But i don't think my shaman will do much role in MC tongue.gif
Heal+fire resist totems+can't tank >.<
Our heals ain't that great also....shaman=mana hogs.

By the way, is it true that MC takes around 8 hours to complete?
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post Nov 30 2005, 02:46 PM

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your role doesn't make much of a difference.

the time varies for guilds. more experienced ones complete them faster. all depends on guilds. my guild on Kil'Jaeden can do it in 5 hours, including Rag
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post Nov 30 2005, 03:08 PM

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Normally university students have the most time to play WoW. Try getting a fulltime job and you'll know why cry.gif
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post Nov 30 2005, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Eduardo @ Nov 30 2005, 03:08 PM)
Normally university students have the most time to play WoW. Try getting a fulltime job and you'll know why cry.gif
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I know you pain, lol, i play Wow for almost 1 year now and look at my character, i think only 1 epic and i even have green stuff on my Shaman. What a shame!

It is hard for us to raid anyway becoz of the time different, i can't enter MC and BWL too often and no loot for me. doh.gif

Even there is Malaysian guild out there on other server, no time to level a toon to lv60 again. *sigh*
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post Nov 30 2005, 10:02 PM

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casual gamers suffer this. and Blizzard was saying WoW caters to both hardcore and casual gamers.
i guess the part meant for casual gamers are the RP servers. or just to run around & make friends online. most, if not all, of the end-game content require lots of time. lots of time=quite hardcore, especially those guilds that demand it.

you guys can always try and arrange with your guild when you can play. etc. since you'll be on for only 3hours a day ask them whether it is possible for you to attend their raids for 3 hours only & leave after that. most guilds i know require their members to stay for the whole raid & be on time or they will be penalised.
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post Dec 1 2005, 10:37 AM

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Actually WoW (and most mmorpgs) is meant for both casual and hardcore gamers. Its the attitude of the hardcore gamers that causes casual gamers these feelings.

It's that feeling of being left behind while everyone around you grinds and grinds. I saw that when I played WoW. I told myself that I'm not going to grind my arse off (after grinding in the ever so demanding Lineage2) in some other mmorpg for sometime.

Speaking of RP servers... you'd still be a bit left out too if you join in late. Everyone, even though role playing will still be off to quest and raids which you can even qualify for.
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post Dec 1 2005, 05:27 PM

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Try play other MMORPG like EQ, FF XI and u will know WOW is for casual as well. Basically, those games require u to b hardcore if you want to reach max lvl. Yes, most ppl dont get to reach max lvl playing those games.

That what makes WOW different from them... Full set of epics is for hardcore ppl and it is safe to say only half the ppl get to achieve that smile.gif.

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TSGoblinsk8er
post Dec 2 2005, 11:16 AM

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Lol, depends what course u take la...
If you take medicine or chemical engineering, im sure that you can't play long too.

Btw, i just don't like to get too serious into the game...having guild leaders mocking on you..wrong timing for heal>kena scold, wrong totem>kena scold, weak offtanking>kena scold....

Sigh, better off go twink all my alts now...

This post has been edited by Goblinsk8er: Dec 2 2005, 11:20 AM
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post Dec 2 2005, 12:57 PM

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Beh... whats a hordy doing in PvE? GO PVP damnit.. LOL!
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post Dec 3 2005, 08:25 PM

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=.=" Are you there to flame me, alxa3021? Saying im a wuss?
Ok, maybe im one but im sure i don't like ganking some low lvl hordy like some ppl do in STV.
That was my 1st character in Wow, so i joined PVE since i dunno anything back then.
By the way, theres always Battlegrounds for me to pvp.
Ok, im maybe im a noob and not as hardcore as you.
So,any problems with joining PVE or joining the horde?

Its my choice, damnit. Now, go back and play ur dwarf hunter and spam ur aimed shots on low lvl hordy in ur server..=.="

This post has been edited by Goblinsk8er: Dec 3 2005, 08:55 PM
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post Dec 4 2005, 01:37 AM

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Lol.. i was not calling u a wuss.. Cenarius is a PvE server too.. tongue.gif just saying go PvP and reach rank 14... then u'll get ur epics tongue.gif

sorry if u misunderstood...

and i dont like to gank low lvl hordies...

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post Dec 4 2005, 03:01 AM

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Ooops...sry.

By the way, anyone recommend which instance is the easiest for a lvl 60 to get good stuff (no need to be epic, as long as got nice stuff for AH and to disenchant)

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post Dec 4 2005, 03:46 PM

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Well 40man raids should normally be scheduled on weekends? It does mean you take time off studies, but you can try to make up for it on weekdays?

Currently mc takes 6-10 hours for me, depending on how far we go up to (we're still in learning and wiping stage). But if you join an experienced guild, it'll take alot less time.
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post Dec 4 2005, 04:04 PM

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Nowaday big raid is like working to me...Im a student but this is really killing me

Sunday morning 7 AM- xpm-----ZG run
Monday Morning 5 AM -xpm-----MC run
Thursday Morning 8:30 AM---xpm----MC run 2
Friday Morning/saturday morning----gonna schedule for Ahn Qiraj new instance,20/40 mans

Seriously thinking of stopping these kind of run liao
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post Dec 10 2005, 08:05 AM

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Working also can play wow fun.

We currently doing MC on 8pm friday, 3pm saturday, mostly of us working and married, age doesnt matter in wow smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2005, 11:31 AM

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yes if u are attached to a BWL guild which is mostly americonon be prepared to raid early in the morning from 5am to the afternoon.
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post Dec 10 2005, 03:18 PM

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Btw, i just don't like to get too serious into the game...having guild leaders mocking on you..wrong timing for heal>kena scold, wrong totem>kena scold, weak offtanking>kena scold....


Why does the "don't like to get too serious into the game" excuse always get used when you suck at the game? People like you take longer than others to reach level 60 due to your play time, just because you can't play your shaman decently doesn't mean you have to use the "serious gamer" excuse.

In this game what you get reflects the amount of time you spent on it, if you're whining about shiny purples when your guild leaders don't like your play then why bother being vain about items? sad.gif
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post Dec 11 2005, 11:18 PM

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Lol,Boardwarrior seems to be so harsh on me tongue.gif
Wah save some face for me ok ^^

Im not that n00b la... at least i can pvp pretty well and have decent pvp gears.
Just that im just a freshie in MC..(so far went 4 times)

My guild is a little bit new and my guild leader was so called ex- Transcendence member in Zuljin..so he has more experienced than the rest and a lil harsh on us.
At first, we don't like him mocking around..well, after 1month. i think its ok already.
We all learn our mistakes by experience. If nobody scold you, you ain't gonna improve ^^
By the way, im not being vain about purple items.
My point is its just that there is nothing else i can do after lvl 60 besides raid and pvp.
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post Dec 12 2005, 10:22 AM

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Goblinsk8er,

Finally there's a malaysian player at zuljin .. lol ... I'm playing shaman as well .... but only lvl 10 tongue.gif if you reached lvl 60 already why don't you try making an alliance character @ zuljin as well .. My guild exist both in Alliance and horde lol .. but primarily we concentrate @ alliance ... Feel free to come join us. biggrin.gif . My guild tonnes of friendly people.
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post Dec 13 2005, 05:43 PM

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lol...
do like me lor if dun have that much time n dunno what to do after lvl60..
stop playing... laugh.gif
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post Dec 21 2005, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Eduardo @ Nov 30 2005, 03:08 PM)
Normally university students have the most time to play WoW. Try getting a fulltime job and you'll know why cry.gif
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Actually working full time is better to play WoW hardcore cause once working full time...theres no life....but sad thing is...most of the time come back tired...stress...meh


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post Feb 16 2006, 02:44 AM

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not really, i'm a college student, i dont think my play time is many but i still can get alot of stuff now waiting for my guild to grow so i can get more and more epic hehe
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post Feb 16 2006, 01:50 PM

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Isn't there set items now that cater to the casual player, i.e can be done solo or in a group?
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post Feb 17 2006, 09:54 AM

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Answer is none unless u are refering to those under lvl item:)
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post Feb 17 2006, 10:42 AM

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WoW itself has a big variety of items catering to different types of players. Also don't forget PvP reward that also have purple items but do not need DKP or luck in rolling high lot. However, still need to put in decent amount of time. You get what you put in I guess. Having played Final Fantasy XI before, WoW's rewards are definitely more generous to all types of players.
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post Feb 17 2006, 07:26 PM

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PVP epic items need the time put in as well. you can only get the epics from BGs and not those from rank. those need you to be hardcore as the ranking is a ladder system, where if somebody earns more honor than you they rise up above you (rank 10 above). before rank 10, not much competition, easily 1 rank per week.
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post Feb 19 2006, 10:17 PM

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good news for casual gamers.

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We've been hard at work at Patch 1.10 and I'm excited to bring you a small sneak preview of some of the content. We'll be offering a series of quests for maximum level players so they can obtain a really good, class-specific armor set. This should prove to be a great way for non-raiding players to upgrade their gear. Here are some highlights:

. Characters follow a new quest line to obtain an armor set
. The armor sets contain 4 rare and 4 epic pieces
. Some of the pieces can be obtained by soloing (including one of the epic pieces)
. The most difficult pieces to obtain require a UBRS level group
. We are adding new bosses to existing dungeons
. Some of the existing dungeons are being re-itemized



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To clarify one point:

Not all of the dungeons are getting *completely* re-itemized. What we've been doing is going through some of the higher end dungeons and removing or replacing egregious drops, upgrading existing items or changing drop percentages. For example, there are many Green items in Blackrock Depths that will be removed, replaced or upgraded with blue items. To give another example, Magister Boots will become easier to obtain, as they are being moved off of the Postmaster and into a new, more traveled location.


grats mages. slightly easier for mages to obtain full set now.


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We've been making a number of improvements to item drop rates in Stratholme, Scholomance, Upper Black Rock Spire, Lower Black Rock Spire, and Black Rock Depths. In the next patch, the drop rate for many items will improve. In some situations, we will even be improving the quality of select items found in these dungeons.

Beyond this, we're also adding several new items to existing bosses, and even to new bosses which will be available at various locations throughout these instances. Many of the new items will offer statistical improvement with certain classes in mind, such as rings which offer both spell and melee crit, ideal for the Paladin, Shaman and Druid.

A brand new eight piece dungeon set will also be scattered through the locations outlined above. This set, available only to the Warlock, Mage and Priest will offer a substantial amount of armor, hit points and intelligence, making it great for PvP. Below is an example of the set:

Ironweave Robe

219 Armor
+24 STA
+15 INT
Durability 80/80
Classes: Priest, Mage, Warlock
Requires level 58
Set bonuses:
(4) Increases your chance to resist Silence and Interrupt effects by 10%.
(8) +200 Armor.

There are a number of other itemization improvements going into patch 1.10, however, we'd prefer for everyone to discover them through their own adventures. I just wanted to give you a sneak peak. wink.gif


good news for casters.
finally, caster itemization is happening after a year.

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post Feb 20 2006, 11:27 PM

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i thank god for blizzard implementing 200% Exp gains...
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post Feb 22 2006, 05:02 PM

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Those new item cant even beat those drop in MC at all...it just a way bliz trying to handle those "casual" player by giving them purple item so they could just leave bliz alone
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post Feb 22 2006, 09:07 PM

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The problem's no longer about casual vs hardcore : it's becoming non raiders vs raiders. And yeah, non raiders include hardcore PVPers who just don't like the idea of raiding again and again.

Then again I'm a retribution paladin, and ret pallies tend to be treated like dirt by raiding guilds, hence my choice to devote myself to PVP instead. wink.gif

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post Feb 22 2006, 09:37 PM

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of course it can't beat those in MC. they don't take as much effort nor time to equal MC farming. and you don't have to have a timetable to go to the instances to get them.
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post Mar 8 2006, 03:57 PM

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learn2play
or join a guild that raid times you can join

blizzard is releasing casual epics for casual gamers
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QUOTE(Darlie @ Mar 8 2006, 03:57 PM)
learn2play
or join a guild that raid times you can join

blizzard is releasing casual epics for casual gamers
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yeah if ya in an american based guild like im in right now the raid schedule for 40 man instance e.g (BWL/Temple Ahn'Qiraj) usually on the weekends... have to wake up at like 4am to do the raid lol.. and MC/ZG/AG20 is usually on weekdays..
but luckily i alredi got all my gears in MC and BWL is on farming status.. and AQ40 is up to Princess Huhuran.. well its tuff , but u gotta tell the guild leader bout ur time for raid and all , and maybe they can do something to fit into their time..

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