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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V20, Saga FLX SE 1.6 Manual -> New God car??

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huzaifa136
post Mar 20 2012, 03:52 PM

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yesterday my flx cvt engine died at traffic light. i don't know why, quite scared if died again. but so far that's the only one.

i drive normally, speeding and hard brake, aircond speed is 1 and half the temp switch. change from N to D without pressing brake..

nvr happens before, need to check with SC, this weekend is my 3rd service. will go to section 13 pj.
huzaifa136
post Mar 20 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 20 2012, 03:57 PM)
I just wished that my Saga didn't make me visit SC 10 times in 2 months  mad.gif
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that's easy, just let it be till d next service, unless major prob sweat.gif
huzaifa136
post Mar 20 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 20 2012, 04:08 PM)
You're not the only person who encountered this, it seems the Campro engine will go asthmatic after hard revving or cold start, dunno if it has anything to do with the CVT.

Someone mentioned can update the ECU at the SC, maybe you could explore that avenue.


Added on March 20, 2012, 4:09 pm

Some things can't wait, some things too annoying to wait, lotsa reasons lah. Sometimes when you go to the SC, they either make you wait whole day, or ask you to come back next week etc.
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o really.. that's new to me. will ask the sc about this.
about the occurring trip to sc within a month, it can't be help other than trying to accept it and be cool, really depends on luck.
huzaifa136
post Mar 22 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Nooby Lim @ Mar 22 2012, 12:11 AM)
fuel consumption of 1.3 seems nt consistent? 1.6 ismore fuel efficient? 1.6 cc shud b higher in fuel consumption theoretically..
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that DWEBBB is mine biggrin.gif
currently not so good around 11km/l.. almost town drive. highway and long journey is much better.
not consistent mybe because town drive and 1.3, i tends to rev higher esp on hilly road and after traffic light.
another thing to consider is when i refill petrol, it might not totally full, hence calculation not fully reliable.
how i wish we hv onboard fc info tongue.gif

and yes 1.6 cvt might be better. 1.6 manual seems to be the same as 1.3 cvt of worst depends on driver.

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huzaifa136
post Mar 22 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(nanamizuki @ Mar 22 2012, 01:57 PM)
any1 facing "mnt error" when plug in thumbdrive at the usb slot? no matter what thumbdrive im just getting that error...zzz so irritating  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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try to reformat it, if not probably not suitable or broken file system.. at least can't be read by the HU
huzaifa136
post Mar 22 2012, 04:03 PM

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i'm not sure hv somebody mentioned about the file system.. if FAT32 should be working, but if NTFS, not sure able to read or not. try format to FAT32
huzaifa136
post Mar 22 2012, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Nooby Lim @ Mar 22 2012, 09:27 PM)
according to SA. saga FC is ard 13-14 cent per KM... any1 can achieve tis fc?
saga mirror gt uv protection/reflex?
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achievable.. that translated to 13km/l and above.. or 400km for 1 full tank
easy to achieve that for highway drive. city drive possible but u need to drive slow and not rushing
just drive normally enough.. it won't drink petrol much. if wanna really save on fuel we have viva or ride motorcycle biggrin.gif

this fc thing got a lot of factors affecting it.. some car manufacturer stated how they tested it.. some don't
and still, not many will be able to achieve the published fc.

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huzaifa136
post Mar 24 2012, 01:45 PM

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done my 3rd service at proton section 13, pj. seems to be better than Mutiara Damansara. I brought my own oil Eneos Moly bought from lowyat forumer ([WTS] Eneos). Ask them to check rattling on rear left door. They did adjust door trim and bracket i believe, but the rattle is still there, slightly less than before. I won't bother to ask them again, just need to apply soundproof on all doors. That should fix it.

For Eneos moly oil, my car seems to be like the 1st day i receive it. Much more silent than before and better pick-up. Hopefully can also improve fc. rclxms.gif

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huzaifa136
post Mar 24 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Mar 24 2012, 04:20 PM)
which eneos u buy? Eco Touring (Semi Synthetic) SM 5W30 ka?
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no, rm90 molybdenum 10w40
huzaifa136
post Mar 24 2012, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 24 2012, 05:51 PM)
Dunno if true or not...but me read somewhere...that most of solid additives suspended in Engine Oils wld NOT be able to pass thru good oil filters!  whistling.gif
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there's always a chance for that, but it's improving.. nowadays should be a lot better. some said it's the same as non additives oil..


Added on March 24, 2012, 6:52 pm
QUOTE(koh_424 @ Mar 24 2012, 05:29 PM)
AGIP Rm85 tongue.gif
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i choose eneos moly coz the moly itself. wanna try the promised better pick-up and less engine sound

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huzaifa136
post Mar 24 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Mar 24 2012, 08:16 PM)
ss13 pj SC allows bringing own oil without voiding warranty? thumbup.gif
In the service invoice, they got state you bring own oil?  hmm.gif
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i believe so. they never mentioned it
yup.. stated in invoice - <engine oil supplied by owner>
huzaifa136
post Mar 24 2012, 08:44 PM

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myvi old gen side impact. myvi getting out from petrol station to right. hit by lorry. driver did not survive. head injury

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huzaifa136
post Mar 25 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 25 2012, 02:58 AM)
you can bring your own oil and your warranty isn't void. But if there is anything happen to the engine, there are chances that Proton can put the blame on the "unauthorized engine oil". So, in the end, it depends on how you argue/ask for leniency.
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one thing i noticed, proton don't hv their own engine oil. and i've read somewhere that not all sc using the same oil. so it's highly possible to bring our own oil and not void the warranty.

p/s: toyota engine oil is full syn.. brows.gif that's what used in my mother's rush

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huzaifa136
post Mar 26 2012, 06:03 PM

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stp brand? how much cheaper can u get? can do mega diy TT
huzaifa136
post Mar 26 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 26 2012, 09:36 PM)
if you want to hear the real statement from someone who previously spends nearly two years sweet talking customers into buying overpriced laptops and electrical appliances; open the spoiler below;

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i wonder if saga fl stock still available? flx se still rare on road.. and flx not as popular as saga fl
huzaifa136
post Mar 27 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(wasserfest @ Mar 27 2012, 12:17 PM)
Sifu Dares,

add me too pls... wasserfest | Fire Red | CVT | FLX SE

tq
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add me too.. huzaifa136 | Blue Rock | CVT | FLX Exec

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 27 2012, 12:32 PM)
Bro, no need so difficult la, i just tell how i drive my manual BLM la...

I usually rev until 2.6-3k before i shift, to ensure after shift at least have 2k rpm.
You shift too low rpm is torqueless, end up waste more fuel.

Normal day working 50% city 50% highway FC not less than 12km/L, usually around 12-14km/L...pure highway drive, 16km+/L...

What i can tell you is Saga best FC rpm is around 2k~3.6k, tested both 90km/h (3000rpm) and 110km/h(3600rpm) for 500km+ pure highway drive, FC also around 16km/L.
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does this applied to cvt too?

huzaifa136
post Mar 27 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 27 2012, 12:37 PM)
That is for manual only.
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rev may not apply, but speed mybe? i means torque/speed, i've read before that saga 1.3 optimum power is around 90-100kmh
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post Mar 27 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(cuteyman @ Mar 27 2012, 02:11 PM)
along highway pretty damn slow for me..at least 110km/h  rclxm9.gif
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with cvt even tempting to go beyond that. at least 140km/h. but 110 just nice. too fast then need to concentrate more
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post Mar 27 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Mar 27 2012, 02:24 PM)
When I saw the spec sheet, I also thought CVT would save more fuel than MT but after seeing my friends car...it's the other way round  doh.gif

Senang cerita, 60km/h - 80km/h to save fuel  thumbup.gif
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in my experience on cvt when going back to hometown, highway at around 150kmh is a bit high fc than 90-100kmh on trunk road. that's the best fc i got around 15km/l. Both are better than city driving.


Added on March 27, 2012, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 27 2012, 02:28 PM)
Yup, thats ppl always said want good FC drive slow, but not drive low rpm, lol...

Want to speeding with decent FC, get higher power engine car.

Anyway, the gooding about low RPM for CVT is lower engine noise @ high speed, this one i love it. wub.gif
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thumbup.gif true. the faster u reach the optimum power (90-100kmh) the better. however it may not apply to stop and go traffic

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huzaifa136
post Mar 29 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Mar 29 2012, 03:21 PM)
i kasih 1 more post into this old thread.

ini kit sape ada minat? otw liaw~

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ready? how much? been waiting.. rclxms.gif

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