Yeah, Insulfex is too thick...or maybe can try forcing it? Will try with a few 'good morning towels'  first

so you ur sound insulation already?? wonder which part to add in..cause saga really sound like tin kosong...when go batu hit the body.

Right on top of the fuel pump. If that fails, the whole rear seat area. If that fails, use the towel for household 

When opening the panel must be very patient...if not..snap! 

Saga S16 should also look almost the same. This is probably the reason why ANCAP did not release the side impact crash test video for our Saga 

Cover the whole area also fail?

Pic from car display event today...

anybody user FLX se got same prob like u?

Just attended the unveiling of the new BMW F30 3 series.

I sat in it. Smelled it. Touched it and pressed it.

The next Proton Saga should have gear lever like this 

Too many people around haha. No chance for tongue action...

Have a little faith my friend. Proton already has turbo and cvt tech. Soon, 8 speed gb and super cool gear knob should be within grasp.

Malaysia car manufacturers actually quite smart...Letting the North American and European manufactures become guinea pigs for new techs     

Frankly, I'm not too sure. I drove my WIRA with vacuum meter, other than pickup from traffic lights, normally I try to maintain below 15 in/hg while cruising. Currently I still couldn't find any pillar holder for my BLM, so the meter is not on yet. After many years training, I believe my right foot is quite sensitive with the pedal. HOWEVER, the only problem now is the drive by wire, I can no longer feel the throttle body, the angle of the butterfly. So, all I can feel is the car had to go smooth, without sudden acceleration. I normally will not purposely shift up before the car run smooth, as I learn this from previous vacuum meter training also. Before the car got enough torque, there is no use to shift up as you'll lose more momentum on a higher gear with lower speed, alas you lose more petrol trying to gain back the momentum. So, besides of the 6krpm crazy thing, I think I did almost the same driving style as my WIRA 1.6.

So, I believe I'm DRIVING the right way(before I get my vacuum meter hooked up, now all are bullshit). I just couldn't believe I'm that bad in driving a car without reading the vacuum meter. How can people do up to 15km/liter whereas I only manage to do average 10km/liter. Moreover, I do like 50% highway cruising. To cut the crap short, reading fuelly is more reliable heh?



Any help is much appreciated. Current mileage clocked at 16000. I'm suspecting WRONG engine oil can make such harm too. Before I get this car, the reseller took it for a service, not sure what oil he puts in. BUT, I've tried diesel engine oil on my ISWARA too, it still doesn't hurt the mileage that much. Any input is much appreciated.

By the way, is this the correct thread I ask for this kind of question? If there is any other thread talking about fuel efficiency, please direct me there. Don't wanna be a threadjacker.

Thanks and regards,

Dave

Normally is around 2krpm ~ 2.5krpm shift up, depends on how long I drag the thing. The slower I drive, I drag the shift longer like every gear up takes 4~5 seconds.

I also dont think lack of reference to a vacuum can cause such crazy FC. Just wanted to find out what went wrong with my car.
No choice, every good thing must come to an end(comes to think of it, only bad things is never ending story). The roof is rusted badly, beyond repair jor, gotta torch it out and get an OEM roof to fix it, that alone cost RM800. New paint will cost another 2000 on a 2k ruby green. Engine is running at optimal. I change engine oil/oil filter EVERY MONTH! New aircond compressor/cooling coil/hose/gas, just changed the entire damn thing last Christmas. Thats why you see such crazy fuel economy on it. 15cent/km is pretty good for a 16 years old car, without loan repayment and stuff. Just wifey and family complain too much, really gotta sell it ady.

So its all about speed.. Sure my father not allow to buy 1.6

just to round it up, FC depends on RPM. the higher the RPM goes when u pedal the fuel, the more it drinks. so even a tebo car if u drive at RPM 2.5k, it will still drink as much as a 1.3 saga at 2.5k (i doubt it goes for the same as kancil 660 lar~) 

yeah thats my plan actually..see which 1 fit the best..but since mine is grey..nothing much expected lar 

btw naiss stripe though..

rpm or speed?

1.6 and 1.3 still have different even cruising @ same 2500rpm, dun forget the extra 0.3L, fill with what? Air only ah? of course need more fuel ma... Unless it tuned for more leaner than 1.3 version, else the FC is still higher than 1.3 one...

For sport car, if the car have 6 or 8 pistons let say, it will definitely need more fuel @ same engine speed.

Easy theory, why FLX CVT RPM is alot lower than mine BLM MT, but it still consume around same FC @ highway? Dun forget @ 110km/h, CVT @ 2600rpm, while my MT need 3600rpm leh...

So, i agree if 1.6 have same or even better FC as 1.3 @ city drive, if @ highway @ same engine speed, NO.

doesn't make sense to me. if put 5.0L engine into saga (other factors remain), it become super fuel efficient?

Excellent explanation...but...an adult does require more food intake than child? 

nice explanation

to my understanding, a larger engine consumes more fuel to do the same work (a giant and an adult both can push the 50kg crate, but the giant needs more foods to substain its size). but a larger engine is capable to handle and do a lot more work, produce higher hp and top speed (giant can push 200kg but adult cannot).

dares is a car nutritionist       

agree. normal driving smaller engine has better fc. always push the car to highspeed then larger engine probably gives better fc.

Hey I got the same prob. I sent to EON for a check-up but the sound is still there. More like clicking sound when I began to brake. Then when the car slows down, the knocking sound began to appeared. It really annoys me. At first I decided to just ignore but I scared it became worse and in the end leads to an accident. Luckily my car is still under warranty and I don't have to spend a penny. *sigh*

Not to mention others car or whatever engine, just for our Saga, 1.6 consumption will NOT better than 1.3, the most only same (i doubt so).

I know your @ equal RPM different consumption theory, just like 1.3 fetching 5 persons or only driver alone, of course for 5 persons sure FC is higher.

Thats why i only agree efficiency, YES. Consumption, NO.

I just want to highlight some misleading fact, some ppl tends to confuse between efficiency and consumption. If go for 1.6 for 'almost same amount of FC but get more powerful ride', this one i have no objection. But If go for 1.6 for 'better FC', they will gonna disappointed.

I assume they need longer conrod? Means heavier...

Rear boot and floor by


My main purpose is for dampening last time, side effect, sound insulation too.

hmm... looks like after ericmaxman moved to viva club all the fc topic is digged up from the graveyards...

konvoi to outstation sure can one... just that the timing all tak ngam...