i see... so it's due to different printing method, but i think this pic was really out of focus

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Added on March 10, 2012, 10:21 pmthere are changes in design for Ducky Shining, therefore the wristrest has been delay for a while, until the new body size is given.

This post has been edited by storm88: Mar 10 2012, 10:21 PM

Meaning the new wrist rest is not designed to fit the current existing 9008s?

We not sure yet. The current design already final and was about to MP. But due to the recent changes, we need to hold awhile to see if they can cross fit

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1165518382

What is this 无接点静电电容式键盘?
similar to Topre switch in any way?

Probably not.

In taobao, foam and foil is normally called 电容式.
So far only Realforce and HHKB Pro are known for having Topre switch.

its a 1988 product.... 电容式，静电容式，is it the same?
I　was searching for 静电容式, which is what topre switch is called in Chinese right?
this one come up in the cheapest in the listing, so I ordered one.
its not more than RM200 include the agent fee and shipment.

seller listed he have 126 in stock @@

rich fella, fast fast pictar

we will be waiting for your review sir kaysa

found this:

找到了高人的回复~
很多的介绍都说这个是也是电容式的键盘但是这个电容式和RF101的电容式是不一样的原理不同，结果也不同。
5349的弹起是内部的海绵
101的弹起是弹簧的原理，所以手感上大家也就明白了。

5349并非只是靠海绵的弹性，在每个键帽底下都有一个橡胶的环形垫子负责弹起。
这个橡胶垫子起的作用其实和rf101键盘的橡胶膜是一样的，只不过在触发的中末端其海绵结构才会起到一个缓冲的作用，其手感的特色就来源于此，
而rf101在触发过程中的缓冲是由其内部的塔状弹簧和橡胶薄膜共同负责的，从结构上看会比5349的海绵参与进来的时间早，所以其触发过程中的受力曲线变化是会比5349更为平和的，
5349与101手感的最大区别在于键行程的前面部分，这部分101弹簧参与的早，而5349是和普通薄膜一样完全由橡胶薄膜负责，但中后半部分其实没有本质上的差别，因为此时5349键内部的海绵也参与进来了，此时压力曲线的变化应该是和101十分相似的。

至于为什么5349和101的手感会有比较大的区别，关键在于两把键盘的压力克数相差巨大，rf101是30g　45g　55g分区压力，而5349是70 +/- 20 grams。
区别是非常大的。如果5349用的是50克左右的薄膜，一定会非常讨喜的。
其他方面101全键程4mm，5349键程3.9 +/- 0.5mm，没有本质差别。
按键寿命上101是3000w而5349是5000w次，5349占优，其原因应该就是橡胶膜比较厚实，用比较大的压力克数换来了2000w次的键盘寿命。

所以，我们不妨把5349当作橡胶膜加强版的101来看。

这两个键盘天差地别谈不上，设计初衷不同，产生时代不同，把他们硬放在一起比其实就是有些不公平的，realforce系列是到现在一直在改进的，拿它和一款20年前的产品做比已经是关公战秦琼了。

其实对于5349，最初介绍给国内的朋友的时候就是作为一个新奇的发现，毕竟长久以来大家对于静电电容式键盘只知Realforce，再多一点也只知道KT曾经有一款，长久以来其他厂家的这个技术的产品并不为人所知，介绍他不过是为了给大家开阔一下眼界罢了。不想后来有商家路子野，搞到一批大加宣传，似乎引起了很多争论。

现在正好无聊，把这个东西就此说说清楚也好，免得大家一头雾水。

copy from a Chinese keyboard forum...... according to this, it wouldn't be the same with RF and HHKNB in anyway.
http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-24540-1-1.html

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 11 2012, 12:01 AM

These are not Topre switch
BTC self design switch.

Layout looks like French ISO. You can do a key remap using "KeyTweak"

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Mar 11 2012, 12:07 AM

just got my 6gv2 for 349 is there any the button can be change later on

Is it even consider as a Mechanical keyboard at these rate?

Quote some line in those Chinese Forum: if you're paying 200, don't even dream to get something have a similar touch with the Realforce.

If you want 80% similar to Realforce, the people at Geekhack had a long discussion about that, and they said a keytronic is close to a Realforce.
I tried a Keytronic before, and I'd say it probably is, but then I only press a few buttons, i did not try the whole keyboard out.

Button? Not sure what you mean.

BTW, the keycaps can be changed as easy as change your clothes(as long as you found the suitable one).
For switches, it is changeable if you can reach the inside of the keyboard and solder off the original switch.

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Added on March 11, 2012, 1:26 amA rubber dome that manage to attract my attention(due to the rarity, looks and so on). Dye-sub and strange sized/sloped keycaps, probably older than 90' and it is made in Singapore. In short it is a nice set of red dye-sub keycaps for RD.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12658929347

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Added on March 11, 2012, 2:23 amHmm, found its relative/sibling. Made in Malaysia though, LOL...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=4322510814

This post has been edited by Human10: Mar 11 2012, 02:23 AM

Guys I have something to ask here... I have a Filco Majestouch 2 brown 104 keys, just bought not over 2 weeks. These few days I encounter some weird issues, like the keys automatically registered even though I totally didn't touch them. It happened for awhile then gone.

Then I used like normal... until just now, the whole number row won't function except number 5, END and PAGE DOWN too. I plug out and plug in, plug to another laptop and it's the same. I was almost furious but suddenly i plug back to my desktop and it works now.

Is there any reason behind this weird behavior?

Record it and send for RMA?
Probably something wrong with the controller...

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Added on March 11, 2012, 3:41 amVery poisoning review of K60. If it isn't a half RD keyboard, I think I had already bought it...
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-45918-1-1.html

This post has been edited by Human10: Mar 11 2012, 03:41 AM

umm, kinda lazy to post all the pics although it's not much



Behold, Leopold FC500R and Filco Majestouch Ninja



This post has been edited by lucidlts: Mar 11 2012, 09:07 AM

can list down illuminated mech keyboard apart from rzer BW?
& their price

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Red Switch)- Blue LED [DK9008S-BR-BL] : RM 469 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Red Switch)- Red LED [DK9008S-BR-RD] : RM 469 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Red Switch) - White LED [DK9008S-BR-WT] : RM 469 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Brown Switch)- Blue LED [DK9008S-BR-BL] : RM 439 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Brown Switch)- Red LED [DK9008S-BR-RD] : RM 439 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Brown Switch) - White LED [DK9008S-BR-WT] : RM 439 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Brown Switch) - Green LED [DK9008S-BR-GR] : RM 439 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Blue Switch) - Blue LED [DK9008S-BR-BL] : RM 439 - READY STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Blue Switch) - White LED [DK9008S-BR-WT] : RM 439 - OUT OF STOCKS

Ducky DK9008S - Shining N-Key Rollover Mechanical Keyboard (MX Blue Switch) - Green LED [DK9008S-BR-GREEN] : RM 439 - OUT OF STOCKS

Copy pasta via mordeno's thread.

Coolermaster's mech keyboard comes illuminated as well if i'm not wrong.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Mar 11 2012, 01:06 PM

thanks... nice ducky.

any other? like filco, or leopold
& one more thing... if that switch is broken, we can buy that switch to replace it?