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 Mechanical Keyboard Club V5, For Gamers and Typist Enthusiasts

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daijoubu
post Apr 22 2012, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 22 2012, 01:04 AM)
There's only 1 kaiserreich in Malaysia  biggrin.gif
Due to the construction of the Poker, and the screw holes distribution, there are some rattling of the PCB going on in the top row. However, putting some foam, or my case, some bubble wrap underneath the PCB could minimize the rattling. Otherwise, it feels as good as the Filco.
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Thanks ^^. I did notice that the top rows have a little flex, but overall typing feeling, somehow the plate mounted Filcos have a more solid feel when bottoming out unsure.gif
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post Apr 22 2012, 08:30 PM

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Does Keycool 87 comes in black colour enclosure? unsure.gif


Added on April 22, 2012, 9:13 pm
QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 22 2012, 08:30 PM)
Does Keycool 87 comes in black colour enclosure? unsure.gif
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OK i answer myself tongue.gif yes it does
RM230 ish max shipped for red keys. Its pretty cheap. But the quality is questionable right unsure.gif

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post Apr 22 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 22 2012, 09:43 PM)
It cost around RM200, and around another RM20 for the shipping(2kg). You can probably get more things together with it at the same time to make full use of the 2kg(at least can include a set of keycaps).

Check my review of it in GH:
TLDR: A good keyboard, will be a even better board if it fixed the alignment problems(should had be fixed by now).
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:25768

If you want to be safe, hold longer and add a little more for the coming backlit version. It isn't shown/reported with alignment problems, somemore reselling backlit keyboard in Malaysia is far easier than selling Mech KB, true story... sweat.gif
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Yup I've read your review in GH smile.gif. Good review. Im not really a fan of backlit keyboards unfortunately sad.gif.
How long do you reckon it takes for the keyboard to arrive?

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 22 2012, 09:51 PM)
I don't have one, but I doubt it can beat the CM storm rapid quality.
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I played with the CM Storm red and i just cant stand the terrible black rubberized enclosure and red logos sad.gif.
Im seriously considering the Archiss AS-KB87LR / Leopold FC200 red now, but i heard that the Keycool are basically copies thus why im checking them out now tongue.gif. I know the Leopolds have the non standard space and sharp edge, but i guess its easily rectified with a replacement keycap from keycool.
The Filco reds would be way too expensive for my blood unfortunately.


Added on April 22, 2012, 10:08 pm
QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 22 2012, 09:56 PM)
I don't have CM Storm, but I doubt the rigidity of it's case can be as good Keycool. Keycool's case rigidity is seriously high and unrivaled, LOL.
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More than a filco? shocking.gif

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post Apr 22 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:11 PM)
As you already spend so much time look and seek for keyboard, it won't hurt if wait for a little longer, right? sweat.gif

BTW, it normally will reach the agent's warehouse within 1-2days after order being placed (using 顺丰快递). And it will reach Malaysia in another 1-2days(if don't met with weekend or long holidays...). And after reached Malaysia, it should reach you in another 1-2days(unless the items being hold by custom at airport).

Just to further clarify, Leopold's FC200R is using different standard for spacebar than FC500R and FC700R. Leopold FC200R actually can use those universal spacebar made by KBC.

Keycool is actually FC700R's copy, but using different stabiliser.

Rigidity wise, MAYBE(I don't own FILCO, so can't conclude). Cause some ppl are reporting that their FILCO actually flexed/bent and not perfectly flat, and they had to twist it to fix it everytime. That should mean the rigidity of Filco's case may not be too high.
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Hahha i've been to akihabara 4 times already in past 1.5 months just to hunt and play mechanical keyboards. I've desperate to purchase now but my indecisiveness is delaying it >.<.

Oh that means Leopold FC200R cannot use Keycool's blank keycaps (space bar)?
Means gotta purchase extra spacebar from KBT or from EK? sad.gif
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post Apr 22 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:26 PM)
Brah, you are consfused here.

FC200R using standard OEM/aftermart compatible spacebar standard, and that is an advantage there.
You can still get those KC's full blank key but using the default FC200R's spacebar, they both black in color, you won't notice any different.
Somemore with standard spacebar, you are easier to find other full set keycaps such as PBT and so on.
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Weird because from what i read online, the FC200r's space bar is not compatible with the Filco's due to the position of the stabilizer stems is different.

user posted image
IINM, Leopold at bottom, standard at top.

But i heard that Keycool uses the same type as bottom unsure.gif due to they copy Leopold's design.
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post Apr 22 2012, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:50 PM)
Yar, actually FC200R's spacebar is still different from FILCO's and Ducky's and other OEM. But most replacement spacebar made out there(mostly by KBC) are such standard in picture below, to be compatible with both.
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The one on Leopold 500/700 and Keycool are something even more different from the 2 above.
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BTW guys, is there an update for Leopold FC700R at their official site in Korea? It is now 3models each instead of 2 in last time?
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/list.php&ca_id=101001

Side sidenote, FILCO AI in TKL and Korea Layout anyone?
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1319427989
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Ohh now i understand.
Basically the FC200r is different than filco, but most keycaps maker have tailored the spacebar to be compatible with both?

Well i guess that put the FC200r slightly above the Keycool in terms of compatibility.
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post Apr 22 2012, 11:10 PM

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Kaiser, do you know how much roughly will the new Filco reds will cost? 0.o
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post Apr 22 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 22 2012, 11:15 PM)
TKL or Fullsize?
TKL:11,800yen
Fullsize: 12,800yen
http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/srch.php

p/s: Wah, thats a serious expensive price, even higher than the previous Filco R? shocking.gif
Seems like other switches variant also cost the same, may be the SRP in Japan is really high... If so may be you can wait for local set. Our local Filco TKL should cost around RM380.
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Haha yup that is the normal price of Filco's in Japan.
cheapest i see so far for TKL is 10500yen in Akihabara.
They're all pretty expensive and close to retail price here.
The closest i see to a good deal is 7000yen for the Archiss AS-KB87T. That's like RM265.

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post Apr 22 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 22 2012, 11:23 PM)
Or Daijoubu can order straight from Diatec.
I can't read japanese much, but ordering straight should be doable?

edit: Ready to pre order from elsewhere too.
http://www.sofmap.com/product_detail/exec/.../gid=SA10010000
http://www.sofmap.com/product_detail/exec/.../gid=SA10010000
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Haha i could, but for that amount of money, i rather wait and get it here when it arrives to inter-asia, with local warranty to boot =D.

Thats the problem with Akihabara. There is SO DAMN MANY things to buy, but everything is freaking expensive you end up just salivating at the hardware without actually able to buy it tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2012, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 22 2012, 11:39 PM)
Front right.

It's a non issue for me. 1 Piece of paper makes it good.
It might be an isolated case, but then again, I only have 1 Realforce.
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It could either be enclosure flex, or height of the rubber foots are not even.
Removing the offending rubber foot and putting layers (as thick as the 1 piece of paper u used) of double sided tape in between the rubber foot and enclosure should do the trick without looking tacky tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 09:29 AM

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Human, what are the chances of getting a DOA keyboard if purchased from taobao?

Also, are most KBC space keys on taobao compatible with the Leopold FC200? Most of them seem to mention compatibility for many brands except leopold >.<.
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post Apr 25 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 25 2012, 09:53 AM)
1. Request seller to test it out before shipping. For Keycool, I think the seller should be kind enough, but I don't know
2. Yes, they are compatible.
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Thanks kaiser!
So that means, nowadays, as long as it mentions KBC, it has dual compatibility for both filco type and leopod type space bar?

I also find that almost all keycaps are called KBC in taobao, why is this? Isnt KBC a brand for Poker X keyboards?
Btw do you have any particular seller to recommend (for both Keycool keyboards and good quality ABS keycaps? PBT too expensive for me tongue.gif)

Thanks!
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Apr 25 2012, 12:25 PM)
Yup, aftermart spacebar from KBC is universal for Leopold and Filco.

KBC is a keyboard community(now they are actually a brand/company) in China. And yup, they are among the major aftermart keycap manufacturer not only in China but also western countries(reseller import from KBC and sell it in eBay). In fact, the market for pbt keycaps are pretty much monopolized by them.

For keycool keyboard/accessories(keycaps and so on), you can try keycool.taobao.com(the official site for Keycool). Other also recommended seller are 80外设(free 顺风快递 for Keycool keyboard) and 菜青虫(aka 虫哥, a reputable seller).

For abs keycaps, the one by Keycool is quite good to type on actually, just don't plug and unplug it too often(the keycap will become worn and loose by doing so).


Added on April 25, 2012, 12:42 pm
try ask kai, the 1st poster in this page. He is running a test use mech kb program.

If you insist on a "gaming" board, then try CM Storm Trigger.
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That explains it smile.gif.

What is 顺风快递 btw? Im a banana sorry sweat.gif
The authorized keycool keyboard seller is 'toocool'correct?

Also regarding the taobao key caps, are the quality of the printing good? I see some of their close up shots and doesnt seem that good =.=. Anyone have any actual experience or recommended sellers that sells high quality printed ABS keycaps?

Thanks!
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post Apr 26 2012, 12:57 AM

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What colour enclosure do most of you all like? Black or white?

White feels like its more customizable in terms of colour schemes, but does it dirty easily? Feels like it'll yellow permanently in the future =.=

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