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tehtmc
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Feb 23 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(matthewctj @ Feb 23 2012, 11:57 AM) BRC isn't a good idea. Hardly renovators will use this. BRC rust when it comes in contact with moisture. And above the ceiling, there will be plenty due to heat and rain in Malaysia. There is steel mesh which is rustproof. There are those meshes which are hot-dip galvanized used in highway dividers and security fencing. Steel mesh is practical, you do not have to remove all the roof tiles.. Normally, the other method would be to install additional 2"x2" timber batters assuming yours is made of timber roof truss. If it uses metal truss, then your battens will be made of Zincalume material. It basically adds on in between the existing batter, which means narrowing the gap that a human cannot go through just by lifting up the roof tiles. You would need a lot of battens at close spacing and labour cost would be expensive.Zinc (galvanized iron to be exact) sheet is good - for security, waterproofing and insulation. Only thing is, you need to remove all the roof tiles to fix it.
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matthewctj
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Feb 23 2012, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Feb 23 2012, 12:53 PM) You would need a lot of battens at close spacing and labour cost would be expensive. Zinc (galvanized iron to be exact) sheet is good - for security, waterproofing and insulation. Only thing is, you need to remove all the roof tiles to fix it. Somehow, I feel adding Zinc sheets makes troubleshooting a leak harder. As you know, where you see the water may not be the location it leaks from. Adding any sheets for that matter, whether Zinc sheet or Sisalation makes it so hard to find the leakage. How much are the rust proof Steel Mesh per square meter/foot roughly? Good for me to know as well ...
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tehtmc
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Feb 23 2012, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(matthewctj @ Feb 23 2012, 02:26 PM) Somehow, I feel adding Zinc sheets makes troubleshooting a leak harder. As you know, where you see the water may not be the location it leaks from. Adding any sheets for that matter, whether Zinc sheet or Sisalation makes it so hard to find the leakage. How much are the rust proof Steel Mesh per square meter/foot roughly? Good for me to know as well ... Varies depends on gauge(thickness) and spacing lah. Check with hardware shop. You are right about problem to trace leakage.
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weikee
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Mar 25 2012, 09:50 PM
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So all apartment, and concrete roof design will have no fire insurance?
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oddyssey
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Mar 26 2012, 10:09 AM
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No, that is in correct
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Jo_da48
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Mar 26 2012, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Mar 25 2012, 04:48 PM) my contractor told me adding zinc sheet will definately void your house insurance. Instead, they recommed adding horitonzal kayu masak truss small enough gap ppl cannot get thru. At least if fire bomba wafer still can get thru from the roof.Quoted ~7k for the whole job , mine is a dst house.  7K??? The will take out your roof and play the wood in between only or other thing included of your 7K? Else guess you alredya been con.
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blurisland
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Mar 26 2012, 03:13 PM
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So what are the best way now? Currently my house almost get break through from the roof and now looking for better security ways. As read above there are ways like installing Zinc or even grill?
Which is is better and how much does it cost?
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northface
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Mar 26 2012, 03:22 PM
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Best is if you cast a concrete slab over your roof, then nothing can come in!
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coconutzz
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Mar 26 2012, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(blurisland @ Mar 26 2012, 03:13 PM) So what are the best way now? Currently my house almost get break through from the roof and now looking for better security ways. As read above there are ways like installing Zinc or even grill? Which is is better and how much does it cost? is urs single or double storey ?
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blurisland
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Mar 26 2012, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Mar 26 2012, 03:39 PM) is urs single or double storey ? double storey
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Jo_da48
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Mar 26 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(blurisland @ Mar 26 2012, 03:13 PM) So what are the best way now? Currently my house almost get break through from the roof and now looking for better security ways. As read above there are ways like installing Zinc or even grill? Which is is better and how much does it cost? wood plus motion sensor... Myself is Zink + Wood + heat aluminim + Motion Sensor.... Problem statement: Maybe issue to rectifier leaking
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blurisland
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Mar 26 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Mar 26 2012, 03:53 PM) wood plus motion sensor... Myself is Zink + Wood + heat aluminim + Motion Sensor.... Problem statement: Maybe issue to rectifier leaking Wood is mean to add additional wood to minimize the hole so that no one can drop in? Roughly how much it cost? How much it cost for your Zink + wood? I already install motion sensor. TQ~
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weikee
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Mar 26 2012, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(blurisland @ Mar 26 2012, 03:13 PM) So what are the best way now? Currently my house almost get break through from the roof and now looking for better security ways. As read above there are ways like installing Zinc or even grill? Which is is better and how much does it cost? Another method is put BRC, but roof need additional support. BRC is very heavy for thicck brc.
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blurisland
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Mar 26 2012, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 26 2012, 04:11 PM) Another method is put BRC, but roof need additional support. BRC is very heavy for thicck brc. anyone install grill type b4?
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coconutzz
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Mar 26 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(blurisland @ Mar 26 2012, 03:41 PM) They came in through the roof? Man all these while i never tot they would really go so high up to go in via the roof man...
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Jo_da48
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Mar 26 2012, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(blurisland @ Mar 26 2012, 03:59 PM) Wood is mean to add additional wood to minimize the hole so that no one can drop in? Roughly how much it cost? How much it cost for your Zink + wood? I already install motion sensor. TQ~ Material around 1.5K+ (Zink + Wood) , Labour is around 2K (Indo)
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pg84
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Mar 26 2012, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Mar 26 2012, 10:25 PM) Material around 1.5K+ (Zink + Wood) , Labour is around 2K (Indo) Thats good value , they quote me all in 7k , take out roof and place the wood + labour cost
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Jo_da48
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Mar 26 2012, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Mar 26 2012, 11:18 PM) Thats good value , they quote me all in 7k , take out roof and place the wood + labour cost Make sure not curi ayam which done from inside instead of outside. But 7K still expensive, check what if you buy wood and they supply labour  , than you will know lol.... But 7K, guess you could almost get a Pro who do those heat rejection as well ...
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ozak
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Mar 27 2012, 08:35 AM
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Why not put the type like aluminium foil with a wool in it and the chicken fence? You can cool down your house and prevent roof hack in together.
2 in 1. Instead just a roof security.
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