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limhongwoon
post Feb 20 2012, 05:19 PM, updated 8y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against: Norazam

Item being sold/bought:

Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z
Kingston Hyper X 16GB
Samsung F3 1TB Internal Hard Disc
Apple Imac 21.5" 2010Mid
Samsung Galaxy Note 16GB White

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Date of transaction:

Details of the complaint :

The Seller already hold my item for more two months and the Samsung Galaxy Note 16GB White for more than one months. He keep giving me excuses when I ask him about where the item and I ask him to refund me all the money and he refused

12-Oct-2011 : I saw he post that he want to sell off the Motherboard which have Capacitor Fall out so I PM him whether he sold it or not

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=45960513

14-Oct-2012 : The guys reply me that he want to sell it for RM 500 and he want to send the item to Asus Service Centre to repair and the cost is RM 120 and he will bear the repair cost. So I agreed to deal with him.

16-Oct-2012 : The guys gave me Maybank Account and I told him I will bank in RM 250 as deposit

The Maybank Account that I banked in:

Maybank
Mohd Yusuf Zakaria
163019457943


22-Oct-2011 : I start PM ask the seller where the Motherboard. And he replied me next weeks .

24-Oct-2011 : He sent me a PM and told me he will confirm get the motherboard by next Wednesday Thursday

27-Oct-2011 : He sent me another PM and make offer to me . He say will give me discount some for the motherboard because " Need some funding to buy stuff.. " . So the motherboard is RM 450 , and I just need to bank in RM 200 . So I bank in the RM 200 on the same days.

3-Nov-2011 : I PM that guys again and he say : " just about to pm you; they just send back the mobo yesterday. I will call you as soon as i received it. "

9-Nov-2011 : I PM that guys again

10-Nov-2011: He replied : " nope. i call the shop tomorow "

22-Nov-2011: I PM that guys again . He replied : " not yet... "

25-Nov-2011: I PM that guys again . He replied " The shop said I should receive it early next week. As the item otw back now "

And then ... I continue to ask and he still giving me the same excuses

7-Dec-2011 : He say he already bought new motherboard from LYN and now waiting the item to arrived

10-Dec-2011 : I ask him when the item arrived and I ask him which RAM is good for that motherboard , I asking him Gskill better or Corsair . And he offer me his Kingston Hyper X 16GB for RM 100 because he not using it anymore and I think it was a good deal so I agree to deal it.

I ask him how to deal and he say he want to reload RM 100 for his celcom number : 019-9666644

After that, he start offering me the Samsung F3 1TB Internal Hard Disc and I refused it

12-Dec-2011 : I send him RM 100 reload at 12-Dec-2011.
I ask him again about the motherboard and he say he will post it to me on Thursday because he was at Kampung.
I also remind him to send the Motherboard together with the RAM

13-Dec-2011 : He ask for my address and ask me again whether to buy the Samsung F3 1TB Internal Hard Disc
He Offer me for RM 150 but I offer him RM 140 . Final , he agree

Then he say he want to sell off Apple Imac : " btw, i'm planning to sell my imac, i3 3.06ghz with 8gb ram warranty till aprill 2012.. just got my imac pro heheheh "

So I ask him how much he want to sell it and he say RM 2100

14-Dec-2011 : He offer me again for the Apple Imac and the Samsung F3 1TB Internal Hard Disc together is RM 2100.

So I say I still need to consider the Apple Imac. And he offer me again RM 2000 for Apple Imac and the Samsung F3 1TB Internal Hard Disc together.

15-Dec-2011 : After consideration, I told him I want to buy it and will deposit RM 1000 and he say : "when the soonest you can bank in, new account number, my cousin account maybank also. "

I also curious and ask him back : ok , will suddenly change to Your Cousin Account ?

And he say : " the usual account also belong to my cousin also, but now he go study unimas, thats why change account. "

I also banked in RM 1000 to him at the same days

He say me which courier to use then I say Poslaju and he say he going to send it

18-Dec-2011 : He offer me again for Cooler Master 1000Watts for RM 200 because he want to clear all the item in his house because his wife start to complain all the stuff

I say I will transfer Celcom Credit to him again. But I bought Celcom Credit from LYN Forumer and get conned

After he knew I was conned : " you got cheated becoz of me laa, i'm sorry.. btw i'll will give you rm100 discount for the psu.. "

So he offer me the PSU for RM 100

21-Dec-2011 : He offer me again for the Apple Imac Balance (RM 1000 )and the PSU ( RM 100 ) for RM 1050. So I went to bank in all the money to him

So I ask my friend to bank in the money since I was busy that few days .

And then ... I keep asking him when to send it and he also keep giving me excuses


6-Jan-2012 : He SMS me the Poslaju tracking number and he told me that he already sent the item in Poslaju Franchise and it took longer times to arrived.

The Tracking Number he given is not valid

14-Jan-2012 : He say he want to sell his Samsung Galaxy Note 16GB for RM 1700 . And he say if I bank in RM 1000 , he will send the phone first to me .

15-Jan-2012 : He say the Poslaju didn't send the item out because the box crack and Pos Laju cannot send it .

17-Jan-2012 : He say the item been sent again by Skynet and he say after he post the item . His car broke by a theft and all the item was lost ie . the slip of Skynet


19-February-2012 : I ask him where he are and he said : " Now he at Workshop near Taman Pelangi , Perai, Penang. Repairing the car and he say the boss of workshop loss his car key .Now he unable to open his car and all the item now is inside the car . "

At Afternoon, All SMS I sent to him is no replied by him.

20-February-2012 : I call him this morning and his phone already off and I not able to reach him anymore.

I not sure whether he scamming me or not because the item already hold by him for two months already.



Here the seller bank information :

Maybank
113015264404
Mohd Hafiz Mohd Zin


Maybank
Mohd Yusuf Zakaria
163019457943




Contact Number of the seller is 019-9666644

This post has been edited by limhongwoon: Feb 20 2012, 10:44 PM
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post Feb 20 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(miewan92 @ Feb 20 2012, 06:33 PM)
That's a lame excuses from him bro shakehead.gif i suggest you make a police report since you got the conman phone number nod.gif
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Yesterday, I told him that I want to open dispute and he ask me not to do it.

I also don't want to open it, he force me to open the dispute because he turn off his phone.
limhongwoon
post Feb 20 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 20 2012, 06:53 PM)
Sad to hear that.
Norazam is in penang?
He bought some stuffs from me before but the address was in Kuala Terengganu. I still keep the Paslaju slip if you needed.
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Hi ,

He told me that he sending the item to me by himself and his car broke down during half route. He said he took his car to Taman Pelangi for repair


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post Feb 20 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Feb 20 2012, 07:54 PM)
Details of the transaction? any deal history before this? as i assume its involving a lot of money and i dont think u will bank in that much of money if u didnt have some connection before.
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I already update more detail information
limhongwoon
post Feb 20 2012, 11:47 PM

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Anyone who able to help me to get all money back from this scammer, I will give him RM 250 as reward

Any Terengganu People or Forummer here ?


limhongwoon
post Feb 21 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(miewan92 @ Feb 21 2012, 02:08 AM)
but i don know how at the end of this case since the conman was well-known sweat.gif hope TS will solve this problem unsure.gif i bet that is alot of money involved sad.gif
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I also hope can the money back because all the money will be RM 4300 ++

QUOTE(pulautikus @ Feb 21 2012, 02:24 AM)
Ts is a really nice guy. Hope he gets his money back soon sad.gif
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I don't think the scammer will give back all my money

limhongwoon
post Feb 21 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 21 2012, 02:58 PM)
Thats lot of amount involved.
Both of the bank acc holders above are located in Terengganu. Could be real or fake friends of Norazam as well. Fill in these bank acc in your police report. By rights the money in their acc belongs to you. And both acc holders should lodge police reports as well.
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Hi , how do you found out this two Bank Account Holder are loacated in Terengganu ?

I will included these two bank accounts when I lodge police report
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post Feb 22 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 21 2012, 06:01 PM)
well i understood the situation on security of ur side & family or housemates. Lets wait for TS posting up proof of payment. If TS really paid u then thats considered as it's not Norazam that refunded u & Norazam is still owing u & i still didnt get his money but money from TS & u should know what to do.
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I just found the printscreen of the transaction of M2U to usop8290.

And I will upload the proof here shortly


QUOTE(usop8290 @ Feb 21 2012, 06:13 PM)
thx bro..to be exact im a student at UKM Bangi...n lived here at bandar baru bangi...if anyone have problem with it just PM me and i can arrange a meeting..

to owikh84, i think i dont have any issue with you..i already cooperate with ts bout this thing..if sumthing bothering you, pls PM me..  notworthy.gif
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Please don't blame owikh84 ,he was good guys and nice friend, he just helping me to solve this problem because this cons involve a lots money

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post Feb 22 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Dennos @ Feb 22 2012, 08:45 PM)
Posman thread.  rclxms.gif

i thaught Norazam is a young kids at first place. lolx
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Posman become Scammer. No wonder, sometimes Parcel that send by Pos Office lost.

He scam people money to enjoy himself by upgrading his computer, buy new phone.
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post Feb 25 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(anisa09 @ Feb 23 2012, 01:01 PM)
I also being con by him..i want to go ask my father to find him..my father already said to me that if anything happen juz let him know.he'll try to find him..i also going to biro pengaduan awam..to report on him..anymore detail of him?? Btw i am from trganu..my family's there.but i am currently at gombak.


Added on February 23, 2012, 12:36 pm

Penipu besar ni....boleh guna nama Allah bile janji..hrp2 xselamat hidup dia mkn duit hrm..i still got his msg n email from e 1st day he approach me to con me..big liar!!shud put him on jail!
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We must go to find him to take all money back.


QUOTE(sioe @ Feb 23 2012, 02:32 PM)
A new con by the same conman?

The fella's still actively conning ppl on the very forum that people's complaining n discussing about him? This fella has balls man. not scared of anything. Season conman.

Mods, do try to fish out his dupes. Im sure he has plenty. Pity TS and pity the innocent user that had his account used.
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Now he keep using other people name to cons. Moderator should do somethings with this scammer, by notice all the seller to report if got new member buying thing from them and send to this scammer address. Else the seller will become another innocent people again.

QUOTE(anisa09 @ Feb 23 2012, 02:36 PM)
Yes..i think we shud go find him and belasah him..or bring to the court dis case n ask for damages..he must have lot of money..u can see all his gadget..so much..he shud pay 4 what he did..i think we shud gather all his victim..everybody shud be compensated!
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Actually we go to take back the gadget already more than enough. I will take 2 of the HD 6990 Graphic Card. Police should take all his gadget and sell it, and return us the money
QUOTE(usop8290 @ Feb 23 2012, 03:23 PM)
same like me..same modus operandi...even he claim he work as offshore system admin..want to buy new car..VEILFIRE..same story he told ezzydmvp.. doh.gif

we juz go to his house and take all his stuff..his PC only cost more than 10k.. flex.gif
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He say he work at Gas and Oil Company. And he thought me that he already bought new Vellfire and now the radiator leak and bring to repair.

Cons people until buy a new car, why Police can't catch the conman.

QUOTE(anisa09 @ Feb 23 2012, 03:29 PM)
Yes...he told me the same..work offshore..going to miri la whatever la..yes..we shud go his house and take all his stuff...all his gadget..also promise me to give samsung notebook as compensation for holding my money more than 2 months..i think if go n invest to other place also got much money d... Dis guy really make me mad... mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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He promise he will give a Asus AMD Motherboard as compensation for holding my things for 4 months. Last weeks, he ask me for my bank account and he say his wife will bank in another RM 300 as compensation.

Now he try to use my bank account to cons another people. What should I do now, report police and ask bank to change account number ?


Added on February 25, 2012, 12:36 pm
QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Feb 23 2012, 05:31 PM)
U got a big point there...
Show the transction that you transfer to usop8290 and request fir refund from him... Since this is like ABC case and that money is not belong to usop8290.
U must include this all transction in ur police report too.

Usop8290:- better go make a police report too. Look like u become scammer too sad.gif and we know that u r not.
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Here is the proof of the transaction to usop8290 :

user posted image

RM 450 using Maybank2U

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post Feb 26 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 26 2012, 12:28 PM)
It is proven that the money has been transferred to usop's bank acc. So have u lodged police report?  hmm.gif


Added on February 26, 2012, 11:44 am
lol.. the duit haram is inside your bank acc.  cool2.gif
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Usop offer me for refund and he ask me not to included his bank account during lodging report . What should I do ?

I not yet lodge report because really busy this few days

QUOTE(figure8 @ Feb 26 2012, 12:58 PM)
there are no reason not to refund cus that is not your money sweat.gif
i know this currently a police business but they can't even use the money as an evidence. they will use the transaction... no harm refund the money which clearly not yours. just my 2cent rolleyes.gif
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Usop offer me for refund and he ask me not to included his bank account during lodging report . What should I do ?

QUOTE(usop8290 @ Feb 26 2012, 03:19 PM)
i already offer ts to refund...just waiting for his confirmation.. laugh.gif

so dont tell me about haram n halal..i know it..if you think you wanna help ts just go and get his remaining money la..no need talking like this here  sweat.gif
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I wait for how other forummer say . I really scare to give people my bank account , I don't want to become another victim like you
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post Feb 27 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(usop8290 @ Feb 26 2012, 03:35 PM)
if you scare like that how im going to settle this case? i offer you refund then still want to put my acc ???  rclxub.gif

RM450 only right? why scare? if you on the right side you dont have to be like that.. notworthy.gif


Added on February 26, 2012, 3:02 pmif you so scare like that we can meet at BUKIT AMAN to settle this problem..bring along all your evidence..im willing to cooperate..i'll already give you my number since day one you post this thread and please do contact me regarding this matter..  nod.gif

to owikh.. talking bout halal haram or any religion stuff here is not a wise move...im  a Muslim and i already know bout that more that you do..btw thx for the reminder  doh.gif


Added on February 26, 2012, 5:02 pmi already paid ts..hope there is no more issue involving me after this...thanks to ts for the full cooperation..btw this is the proof of payment..  notworthy.gif

user posted image
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usop8290 already refund me the money and now I still have RM 3850 with the conman

 

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