Can you provide your N9 product code? Can help u check in Navifirm. The product code can be found either under the micro sim tray or u go into About there & scan the QR code to get it. It's after your phone IMEI.

Yeah, if u do a ping to the servers, u'll see the google one is taking longer to respond though it's more consistent. Nokia one responds faster but might not respond sometimes.

Yeah, hard to find nice casings here, my place even worse. So I looked for it in eBay & found some nice ones selling in HK & UK. Price around RM20+ with shipping.

Wow really can do online booking on GSC with Firefox now. Just that trying to select a cinema or movie that is at the bottom of the list is a pain!!!

Unfortunately, hoping for an app for GSC is pointless for our beloved N9.

I doubt even if Mr Elop didn't do that we'll ever get one also. Symbian & BB so big GSC also dun care. Yeah hope they make a usable mobile version better.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 7 2012, 02:25 PM

Happens to everyone I think. A 'feature' of MeeGo perhaps. Like u I got used to it. Hehe. This happens only when u first start those apps but if u leave them in background then go back to them it's fine. So from what I can see it's just loading things & this is the lag you see.


Get a micro sim adaptor, very cheap. If you use 2 phones like me, N8 & N9, cut both sim cards to micro sim, then use adaptor for micro sim on N8, swap around as necessary. Nokia used micro sim to save space.

Yes we all know that bro. But that was wat, 4 years ago that Apple started using it? It's not an Apple standard, it's a universal one just no one else use it until recently. Microsoft don't make phones liau eh, they never mandated micro sim on WP. Other WP manufacturers never used it. The designer of N9 specifically mentioned this was used to save space also. Though why it was used on Lumia 710 that only Nokia knows.

Hi sifu Andy. Big rant there. I generally agree with your rant. Let me just add in somemore.

WP7 wasn't meant to replace Windows Mobile. As you've mentioned, it started out from Zune Music player. They went with clean slate approach for making a new mobile phone OS with no input from the Windows Mobile ppl. Basically a new perspective, fresh set of eyes & ideas approach. Of course you'll notice there's a lot of iPhone traits in there but at the same time it's also very different. The approach though is the same, strip all complexity out & make it as simple as possible to do something. Of course for us who are used to Symbian/Windows Mobile this will come as a shock, but quite honestly it wasn't meant to target us. It's meant to be a 3rd choice in between the iPhone & Android, to sit in the middle & show that there's another way, maybe better way to do things. Though honestly this is mostly targeted at ppl who have not used Symbian/Windows Mobile. In this regard, WP7 actually is very good & succeeds in my opinion. Go to Youtube & search for those 'Smoked by Windows Phones' videos, you'll be surprised how good it is.

Non-user replaceable battery is not a bad design trait to me, but what happens when sometimes you explore different materials to use to make a phone chassis. I applaud Nokia for daring to be different to try other materials even though I ended up with 2 phones that have non-user replaceable battery. U now see other ppl start to copy Nokia designs instead.

I thought EDOF cameras are only used by Nokia? Actually it's not bad at all. I've recommended 2 colleagues to get Nokia 701 & my sis to get Nokia E6, all with EDOF cameras. Surprisingly they all loved the camera & I've seen the pics they've taken. EDOF also takes idiot-proof videos since everything is clear & in focus all the time. No focus hunting. Of course u can't do macro shots but none of them are complaining at all.

Bro, I did mention you can't do macro shots right? If thats your primary function for the phone then grab a cheap N8 if you can find one. My N8 with Belle runs great with just 1 issue, it's the 1st Symbian ^3 phone so it's got a tiny C drive that is driving me mad!

Update: You can check this article out on AllAboutSymbian on 701 EDOF camera here

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 8 2012, 10:52 AM

Yes it's very wrong to us to remove power & flexibility, I myself am a software developer. But to the general public they don't need this power & flexibility. You also kind of answered yourself there with the camera example, most ppl would just like to shoot a pic, no need to fiddle with settings to get a 'right' pic. Like I said, it wasn't targetted at us geeks.

Never had a prob to be honest. The hold power button to off worked everytime for me. Maybe ppl just aren't informed.


Oh I didn't realise Apple used it . But again this is another thing that I see as helping the majority of consumers in the Nokia phones. EDOF wasn't just in E7, it's in C7, X7, E6, 700 & 701.

Well, WP is still young, similar with iOS, give it a little more time & enough pressure, I'm sure you'll see more advance features added in. But hopefully not at the slow pace iOS did.


Actually the sequence for N8/E7 is hold power button for more than 8 secs to off it when it hangs. Worked everytime for me. But yes you're right on the part where if u send to service centre then they see all your stuff. Then again, I think this is something that most ppl dun think about also.

OIC! Ok now I get what you mean.

Yes from standpoint of view from E72 they complain since that phone have auto-focus & the E6 don't. Honestly Nokia should not put EDOF cameras in phones meant for Business segment, but EDOF in general use is not as bad as u all make it sound. Remember, I'm talking about general use. I was expecting complains from my colleagues & sis but in the end they told me they were very happy & showed me their tons of photos which surprised me. For ppl who are used to auto focus then this is a downgrade but for most ppl who just got a smartphone like Nokia 701, it's a big leap & upgrade to these folks.

So whatsapp finally 'ported' to our N9, next we need is Skype vid call. Then Office app with editing features. After that.... I'm not sure I have anymore requests

I agree definitely that WP is not for everyone. No phone OS is. Requiring Windows Live ID actually same with Android require Google account or iOS require Apple ID. So yes you're correct & as I've been saying, Nokia is not focusing on the older generation, which is where most their fans are left. Sadly.


Oh yeah! I remember this prob. Faced it so often with my 5800 last time. But luckily(Touch Wood!!!), I haven't encountered it yet on my current phones now.

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Added on March 8, 2012, 3:15 pmOh ya, Shazam, Lyric finder. Though I hardly used them but it's nice to have. Never bothered with wifi scanner since my place here we can count how many free wifi there is.

Kamasutra??? U naughty boy

Tell you what, u make an app for that send to Nokia store see if gets approved. I noticed approval for MeeGo is much more lenient compared to Symbian.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 8 2012, 03:15 PM

Well, what is an iOS device without apps my fren? Hehe. So to me it's considered mandatory.
Same with Android devices too. They all all unspectacular without apps. I dun really remember if can skip the step of sign-in with Windows Live ID on WP, did you try?


Not the chip cannot but no decoder I think so Real Video won't play.

Anyway, they do listen to customers, not the loyalists. They listen to what American customers want.

I think for those loyal Nokia users which don't use computer still have Asha line of phones to pick from. Or the current Symbian phones. Asha line is definitely going to continue. Meltimi(low end MeeGo) might takeover for phones that need more smartphone features but of course that's all rumours now.

The version 7.5 is actually just to continue from Windows Mobile which ended at 6. Maybe they should not have done that considering it's a new OS. But I guess they believe the no 7 is magical for them, cue Windows 7.

Anyway, it's meant for ppl who go online more than anything. These targeted ppl have no clue what is file transfer via Bluetooth. They paste to Twitter, FB or send through Whatsapp.

OIC, so can skip Windows Live ID. Ok lah then can still use as 'dumb phone'

Eh... what I meant was that they should not have started the number at 7 since it's new OS mah. But not bad lah can bring a lot of new features in a 0.5 version upgrade. When did iOS get copy paste? 3 years?

I doubt they'll give back that file transfer method. The simple reason is that they won't open up the file system access since this can be abused to copy anything from the phone.

Yeah, hence why I'm using N9, not Lumia 800. Just give me a few more requested apps then I'm darn happy.

Yeap, for current Symbian diehard fans, I definitely do not recommend WP to them unless they are ready for a big change.

Anyway, if & when WP supports NFC this file transfer thing will be solved. The USA Lumia 900 have NFC but rest of the world one do not. Unfortunately WP itself do not support NFC yet.

Oh ya, if you downloaded an excel or any office file from email, it'll be save automatically inside Office tile there.

Well if WP properly support NFC & Microsoft mandate it, then I think no prob, all WP phones will be able to do it. Yeah heard Tango MIGHT support external storage. I also wonder how they'll control it. Maybe a sandbox folder that can be shared with apps, hopefully. This was an idea that was tested during iOS 3 but was dropped.

Well, that's where I found my excel file that I downloaded from an email. I think.....

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Added on March 8, 2012, 5:20 pmWell it's not practical yet, but if enough devices have it then sure enough it's practical. I'm still having fun showing my colleagues how they can share pics around with their 701 & my N9 just by using NFC.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 8 2012, 05:20 PM