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post Feb 21 2012, 12:45 AM

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post Feb 22 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 22 2012, 01:04 PM)
Some fun with my impact driver. BTW, the screw driver bit was VERY HOT. If you want to try this at home, please wear a thick leather gloves.



Enjou

I wull update this thread time-time with more informations.
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A 21st century Scout.

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post Feb 25 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 25 2012, 09:50 AM)

Added on February 25, 2012, 9:51 amerks post in the wrong place should be in rotary hammer tread. sorry...
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Yalah. You're not the only one getting confused.
So similar subject. smile.gif
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post Feb 25 2012, 09:42 PM

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Can we use an impact driver for drilling?
I think I saw a special drill kit for use on an impact driver.
Anyone try it?
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post Feb 26 2012, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Feb 26 2012, 03:37 PM)
You mean this type of chuck ( 1/4" Chuck ) :

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Yeah. Like that.
I assume you will be using normal drill bits?

What happens when the impact mechanism kicks in while drilling?
Also will the drill bit hold steady when spinning or will it "wave" about (like the screw bit in bahathir's rotary hammer video above)?
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post Feb 27 2012, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Feb 26 2012, 08:53 PM)
But the risk , when the drill bit stuck during drilling a steel , impact action will make the drill bit break into two parts because the impact driver will start hammer if got somethings stuck. I think it will create wave or vibration because you already add a big things on the impact driver and it may create more wave or vibration during high speed
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If only they put in a switch to turn off impact action

QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Feb 26 2012, 11:07 PM)
Ya, for DIYer. Price ( Cheap ) and durablity ( Last Longer ) is more important.
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Cheap and durability don't exactly go together. smile.gif

Damn!
I need to do the occasional drilling but I also need to drive screws into some tough wood.
The wood is hard enough I can't hand-screw the screw all the way in.
I'd love to buy two power tool (power drill and impact driver) but have only budget for one. sad.gif
I guess the power drill should be my first tool then.
Any suggestions for features I should look out for?
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post Feb 27 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 27 2012, 08:37 AM)
If you need to drive screws alot, impact driver is the more proper tool. Impact driver also can drill into wood, steel and plastic too, with proper drill bits. So,  try the impact driver first. smile.gif
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I wouldn't say "a lot" but certainly the need for screwing is more than drilling.
But if I had a good drill I'd guess the need to swiss-cheese my house would then increase by a lot. tongue.gif

QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 27 2012, 11:14 AM)
how's the signal quality ? won't it drop since need to pass through the roof tiles ?
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What about a heavy layer of rain water on the tiles?

Just thought of another advantage to having your TV antenna inside is protection from lightning strikes.

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post Mar 4 2012, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Mar 4 2012, 04:06 PM)
i pity your wrist using the screwdriver...
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I once got a love blister in the middle of my palm from pushing down on the top of the screwdriver while twisting it.

QUOTE(bahathir @ Mar 4 2012, 04:28 PM)
Yes, ratchet driver is for small place and limited spaces, where we cannot use longer screwdriver.

Actually, I also have a ratchet screwdriver, but the handle diameter is smaller than the screwdriver in the video. I tried that also, and did not give a better result. 

The problem with handtools is to keep the screwdriver at the screw's slot firmly, especially when we want to give extra torque/twist. It tend to move and slips, which may damaging the screw's head or the screwdriver's tip. The cheap screwdriver's tip is easier to be damaged and useless in no time. smile.gif
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bahathir, instead of holding the mini ratchet like you're flushing the toilet, try holding it backwards with your wrist above the screwdriver bit's axis ie. above the ratchet mechanism
You might need to place the bit between your fingers too.
That way you can push in and twist with one hand.
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post Mar 6 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Mar 5 2012, 10:33 AM)
I found this comparison video, Makita TD0100 vs TD090DW, corded 100Nm vs cordless 90Nm. A newer cordless brushless impact driver, BTD14x series are more powerful, 140-165Nm, but, ...  expensive and, you are very lucky if you found one in Malaysia. smile.gif
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What a difference from just a 10Nm more. sweat.gif

QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 5 2012, 02:52 PM)
That is why torque adjustable is a must for me. Once run till the torque that is set, it will stop turn. Even no problem in fast mode.
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How do you decide which torque setting to use?


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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Mar 5 2012, 02:31 PM)
too bad dont have high-speed cam to record the drilling in slo-mo so can "see" the difference smile.gif
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No need high-speed cam.
Just attach a narrow strip of masking tape to the top of your screw so that a short strip hangs off the screw.
Then screw the usual way and watch the "flag" spin around indicating the rotation speed. cheers.gif

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post Mar 7 2012, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Mar 6 2012, 12:47 PM)
Again, why more torque, just for screw driving? smile.gif
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Because in the wise words of Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor, "MORE POWER" tongue.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Mar 8 2012, 01:04 PM)
anybody got kang tao for

TD090DWE 10.8V Cordless Impact Drvier

or

GDR 10,8-LI Pro

i mean by can get the best pricing...
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Maybe we can organise bulk purchase?

The Jasakita's website is next to useless.
Sole distributor for Makita and only single static Makita logo on home page and no info whatsoever.
By comparison check out Bosch Malaysia's site.

Bosch Malaysia
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post Mar 8 2012, 07:08 PM

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TD0101F or equivalent model for me.

Simpler to ask what power tool models are available in Malaysia.

I read elsewhere that Makita's lithium batteries don't last as long as Bosch's
Not sure how true.

Oh! Don't forget replacement battery for JinXXX's "D090DWE 10.8V Cordless Impact Drvier". smile.gif
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post Mar 10 2012, 02:48 AM

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Hi jeffreylam,
Welcome to the Lowyat.net forum.

Thanks for your very concise discourse on the two tools in question

Perhaps you can also share with us your thoughts and know how on other power tools as well?
A jigsaw, router etc.
Feel free to start a new thread on any power tool.
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post Mar 11 2012, 09:47 PM

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Ah-ha!!!
So disappointed!

Cordless Impact Driver vs Cordless Drill rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 12 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 12 2012, 11:40 AM)
Why you want the cordless? If the garden is big, it will take sometime to cut which the battery hope can last. Unless you get a spare battery which is not cheap. And cord type motor is more powerfull.
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Petrol plenty portable mah! smile.gif

This SCREW DRIVING thread seems to be running off track? hmm.gif
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Am I the only one interested in the corded TD0101F? sad.gif

QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Mar 12 2012, 02:29 PM)
i began to like alot my impact driver. ease of used. the makita 10.8 batts look similar to bosch 10.8, any one can verify the are the same? also how much is the cost. bosch units is around 100-110
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I doubt very, very much.
Why let your valued customers buy your competitor's product?

QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Mar 12 2012, 02:29 PM)
i began to like alot my impact driver. ease of used. the makita 10.8 batts look similar to bosch 10.8, any one can verify the are the same? also how much is the cost. bosch units is around 100-110
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10.8 battery on Lelong
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post Mar 13 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(public holiday @ Mar 13 2012, 12:18 AM)
can i use impact driver to loosen tight rusted screw? I tried spraying some penetrating oil and hammered the screws but it just won't work
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Depending on the size of your screw and it's condition, go carefully.
You can easily snap the screw off completely and then you're screwed. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Mar 13 2012, 02:51 PM)
Thre are several ways to remove stucked screws. If the screw head already snapped, we use small diameter drill bit, to drill out the remaining. At least this method is what I being taught in Form '3-5' Seni Perusahaan subject, which was my favorite subject. smile.gif
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Does this work for snapped nails too?

There was no "Seni Perusahaan" during my schooldays.
Missed all the fun stuff. sad.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 10:22 AM

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Has anyone seen this Makita keyless chuck locally?
Makita 763198-1
Or any good equivalent.

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post Mar 18 2012, 02:08 PM

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Why is that second screw going fast, then so hard going, then fast again?
Same thing unscrewing?

In the close-up at the end you can see the sawdust jumping around from the impact's vibration. biggrin.gif

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