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TSbahathir
post Apr 15 2012, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Apr 15 2012, 12:19 PM)
nice piece of log smile.gif

hey bahathir , you ever tried using the impact driver to screw and unscrew your wheel nuts ?
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No, because
1) I don't have proper socket wrench adapter. Currently, I have adapter for socket wrench up to 12mm

2) My impact driver's torque is up to 100Nm. Not enough torque to remove wheel nuts. Typically it needs about 140Nm.

But, I can use it for bicycle repair. smile.gif

BTW the wood log is used for testing, training and experiments. Aaah, and also to 'lepas gian' smile.gif


TSbahathir
post Apr 18 2012, 01:32 PM

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Cordless roatary hammer is expensive and heavier. A very light weight CORDED rotary hammer, Makita HR1830 (18 mm, 1.7 kg) is around MYR400, and lighter than the lightest cordless rotary hammer GBH18V (12mm, 18V, 1.9kg).

As I said earlier, Iit is easier using dedicated tools, example, rotary hammer for masonry drilling and impact driver for other lightweight drilling and screw driving. The most important thing is, it's cost less then any professional grade cordless drill driver.

But, different people, different preferences. smile.gif



TSbahathir
post Apr 18 2012, 04:15 PM

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jeffreylam : If there is a power tools roadshows, please let us know. smile.gif

Thank you.. smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:41 PM

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Great... let us all come together to the road show.. Any demonstrations? Hopefully a bargain sales. smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2012, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Apr 23 2012, 10:22 AM)
i dont think any dealer is seeing this tread bro, except jeff  sad.gif you are having problem with your bosch?
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Ha ha ha smile.gif

IMHO, there are several "sellers" read this thread. smile.gif Please don't be shy to add something beneficial and at the same time helping us too.

It seem that I am leaning towards Makita power tools, but I reaaly welcome others to give inputs which can benefit us all together.

For corded impact driver, AFAIK, only Makita TD0101F model that I can find in Malaysian market. There is Hitachi branded corded impact driver, but I am not sure if it is available here. Other tan that, we can find several model of cordless impact driver from several brands.

If anyone has some impact driver or screwdriving experience and tips, please share it here. Remember to include model and bran too smile.gif

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Thank you

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post Apr 27 2012, 10:29 AM

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I heard that, there will be HR2810 and HR2470 rotary hammer demonstration at the roadshow. If anyone want to see how easy to drill into masonry/concrete, come and see yourself. smile.gif

p/s: I planned to go there tomorrow afternoon. smile.gif


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post Apr 27 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Apr 27 2012, 11:46 AM)
too bad i am in jb, or else i will go also. looking for td 101f and also diamond cutter sad.gif jeff any show in jb let us know ya. 2470 less than 500 definately good buy la.
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Yeah... hope jeffreylam able to arrange something... smile.gif


Added on April 27, 2012, 1:04 pm
QUOTE(tomjason @ Apr 27 2012, 12:14 PM)
Hi Sifu,
CSM hardware in shah alam having promotion for skill and bosch. Thus the offer price is really good?. I m planning to buy. Your fast response advised is appreciated. I plan to buy on this sunday.

http://www.csmg.com.my/index.php?option=co...d=86&Itemid=143
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Thank you for the tip...

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post Apr 27 2012, 02:56 PM

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MYR439 + additional battery... great deal. The highest price I ever saw for GDR10.8 is MYR690!. I know it can be discounted further. smile.gif

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Quite amused with this YouTube clip. A brushless motor also can smokes too. smile.gif
Anything can happens to any brands. smile.gif

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BTW: That is a drill driver, not the impact driver. The good thing about the impact driver is, the motor will not stop rotating even under heavy load.

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post May 7 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 6 2012, 05:43 PM)
The smoke come from the motor insulation where the wire stator overheat and burn it. When continue with it, the wire will short to the stator and bye bye your tool.
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+1

For brushless DC motor, when the rotor (magnet) stalled, the current keep running into stator (coil), to create electromagnetic polarity, and at the same time reducing the impedance (Z). Imagine, 300W or more of power running into the coil. The generated heat can burn/melt the wire's enamel/insulation and caused the smoke.

From the comments, the user set the drill at 2nd (High speed/Low torque) and it's stalled when there was not enough torque to rotate the drill bit. It is a common sense to immdiately STOP operating any power tools when it stalled or having problem. So, in the YouTube clip, it is clear that the it was the operator/user's fault.

Thank you.

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post May 8 2012, 01:45 PM

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I really wish I had this type of durabilty for power tools. smile.gif But, I prefer to work in clean place. smile.gif




This Festool tool also a drill driver. You can hear slipping/stripping while driving the screws.
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post May 8 2012, 10:39 PM

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Bigger market, bigger volume, ......
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post May 9 2012, 07:28 PM

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One more important parameter. smile.gif

Purchasing power. smile.gif

Bigger market is meaningless if there is low or no purchasing power.
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+1

But, China made cheap products are flooding in our market. So we still have options. smile.gif
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There are many professional grade brands and models over there. So the price has to be very competitive ,and the buyers havy many choices. But, here ....sad.gif

Yeah, developing countries do not need any latest modern advanced power tools. sad.gif

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ May 6 2012, 06:55 PM)
hey guys sorry this vid doesn't actually fit into this thread..

but its an interesting tool just wanted to share with you guys smile.gif


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For metal cutting, I use 4" angular grinder, Makita GA030 with cutting wheel. It is more thrilling because, it produces lots of 'fire works' effect smile.gif

Other reci-saw


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QUOTE(Mike Echo @ May 11 2012, 09:24 PM)
Hi,

I've just read this thread because I wanted to read what people thought about Makita TD0101F impact drivers - Thanks to bahathir for the fantastic videos.

What's interesting is I am in Brisbane, Australia, and yesterday purchased mine from Bunnings! I paid $100AUD, which is about 300 Malaysian ringgit. Is that cheap?
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I'm in a generous mood this evening, so if someone sees something (ideally not in a huge box!) from Bunnings I can see how much it will cost for me to buy it locally and send it overseas marked "gift" (and get paid by Paypal or something).
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Hi, and welcome to lowyat.net.

Thanks for visiting this thread and, purchased the CORDED impact driver. Yeah, it is very basic, but, it fulfilled most of my needs in DIY, home fixing and PC repairing. smile.gif You may broke several screws or even screw driver bits, but, your finger will know how much to pull the trigger, especially when using it for PC reparing. I am planning to make a video, using the impact driver to unscrew/screw an electronic appliance, to demonstrate it is possible to use the impact driver for a delicate work, which already available in more advanced cordless impac driver which costs 3-10x of the this basic corded impact driver.


IMHO, better get the power tools locally. It will be handy especially dring warranty claim. FYI, the cheapest price for the Makita TD0101F is MYR248, which was on special deal during the Makita power tool's road show, few weeks ago at Kepong. You always can try Internet shooping and find deals in your country. Or, you can call authorized distributor and asked for the nearest dealers around you, and shop around to get the better deal.

Hope you can share with us your opinions/reviews on the impact driver. smile.gif

Good luck and thank you.

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post May 15 2012, 09:19 AM

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Yes, there is a dedicated thread for masonry/concrete/wall drilling which JinXXX mentioned.

Any percussion/impact drill may usable for drilling into wall, and you may suffer a bit if it hit concrete slab, such as, concrete ceiling or beam on the top of the windows. Also, the drill bit is easy wear out. You can find cheap MYR100 or less impact drill, but I always prefer rotary hammer, even a cheap well made Chima rotary hammer, which is around MYR200. If you want the lightest and smallest rotary hammer, Makita HR1830 is my choice, cost around MYR400. Our LYN DIYers prefers Makita 2470, Bosch GBH 2-24 or 2-26.. smile.gif Yeah, go ahead to the thread and hope you can find something useful. smile.gif
Oya, Bosch or Makita? Yeah... up to you.. Both have great products. I picked Makita for price/performance.


Thank you.

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post May 17 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ May 17 2012, 10:10 AM)
finally something to share..

my new toy smile.gif

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didn't know the power of impact driver at 90Nm is damn alot... smile.gif

special thanks to a forummer, who help me with my procurement smile.gif
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Congratulation... smile.gif You got the LCT302W, which include TD090WDE impact driver and DF030W drill driver. Nice.. nice.. smile.gif
In impact driver's world, 90Nm is at middle, where the lower torque about 10-20Nm (Makita Penpact or TD020); and 140Nm-170Nm is at the higher torque (BTD144 or TD147). It is not about the torque, but how the impact driver utilize the impact mechanism to transfer all the torque to drive screws/bolts efficiently., as I demonstrated driving screw using impact driver and rotary hammer (substitution of the driil driver). The impact driver also dramatically reducing the hand twisting especially at higher torque, and we able to drive long screws very comfortably and accuratel y without damaging the screws or screw driver bit.

Enjoy you new toys and good luck. smile.gif

Thank you.

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My estimation is around MYR 1k smile.gif

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