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totally_skint
post Mar 14 2012, 10:22 AM

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Has anyone seen this Makita keyless chuck locally?
Makita 763198-1
Or any good equivalent.

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JinXXX
post Mar 14 2012, 11:31 AM

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found something interesting on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LCT203W-10-8-...1695634&sr=8-18

only 175USD for impact driver and drill combo set... about MYR 545 ..

anybody know how much is the shipping to malaysia or shipping to singapore for cheap ?

power tools like these got kena tax ?
TSbahathir
post Mar 14 2012, 11:44 AM

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Yes, in US/EU markets, there are power tool's big sales; You can get a very good bargain for certaion models. But, several items are same or a bit expensive or cheaper in Malaysia, compared to the bargain sales

IF you live in US, you may get good bargain, but, if you want to ship it here, you need to add transportation cost and tax.. smile.gif

This post has been edited by bahathir: Mar 14 2012, 11:46 AM
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post Mar 14 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Mar 14 2012, 11:31 AM)
found something interesting on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LCT203W-10-8-...1695634&sr=8-18

only 175USD for impact driver and drill combo set... about MYR 545 ..

anybody know how much is the shipping to malaysia or shipping to singapore for cheap ?

power tools like these got kena tax ?
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Over RM500 already kena tax. Include the freight charge.


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post Mar 14 2012, 12:16 PM

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I am receiving bargain sales from Amazon weekly... smile.gif but, if you add tax and shipping.... The combo kit may weight 8-10kg or more.. so, imagine how much the shipping cost will be.. smile.gif

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post Mar 14 2012, 12:44 PM

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What about the warranty & spare parts ?
TSbahathir
post Mar 14 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(jeffreylam @ Mar 14 2012, 09:31 AM)
Makita Torsion Screw Bit with magnet

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Longer lasting torsion bits for impact drivers
The high torque produced by impact drivers will damage standard screwdriver bits but the new Makita double ended torsion screwdriver bit out performs beyond all expectations, lasting up to 10 times longer than a standard bit.
• For continuous high torque fastening with impact drivers.
• Ideal for driving: self-drilling metal screws and long wood screws.
• Minimises damage to screw heads so common with impact driving
• Shock absorbing torsion shaft
• Transfers a smooth force to rotate evenly
• Double ended PH2
• Supplied in a pack of 3

Size Available : 85mm, 110mm, 150mm
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Nice screwdriver bits.

The slimmer part at middle is absrobing the enormous impact pulse and smoothly transfer it to the bottom part and the screwdriver head. Nice.. hope it is less than MYR80 for 3 pcs of PH2 100mm bits. smile.gif

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post Mar 14 2012, 02:33 PM

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Dont worry, it costs you less than that =)
TSbahathir
post Mar 14 2012, 04:17 PM

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Alright... if I want to purchase the bits, can I buy it from the Makita Authorized Service centers which you has listed in the rotary hammer's thread? smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2012, 01:24 AM

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Here are my impact driver's bits collection.
From right
1) 150mm P2 (Phillips #2)
2) 85mm P2, Makita Torsion screwdriver bit
3) 50mm P2
4) Makita Hex bit holder, 2,5mm P2
5) Hex 4mm
6) Hex 3mm
6u) Square bits, Stanley brand
7) Hex -> socket adapter
7u) Socket wrench, 6mm - 11mm
8) 10mm nut setter

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There are several other bits type which are not shown here.

What is this?
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Here is the a beautiful screwdriver bit. This is Makita torsion screwdriver P2 bit. The middle part of the shaft is clearly slimmer. This part absorbs the enormous impact force pulse
from the impact driver, by twisting. It momentory absorb the pulse, and like spring, it twist and transfer the smoother impact force to the bottom half. I cannot see the twist in action, unless I have an ultra high speed camera. smile.gif Or, ask Makita to produce the high speed camera of the action.

I like 100mm P2 screwdriver bit, and I already damaged 2 of the high quality bits, which claims 10x longer lasting. In both ocassions, the bit's head broke when I wanted to remove 3 and 4 inches screws from the wood. As I remembered correctly, the bits broke after 10 to 20 times of continous driving in and out into the wood's block. IMHO, the heat from screw driving may has the effect to bit's strenght

I'll try to break the Makita torsion screwdriver, and see if it can lived up to the claims...smile.gif I alredy tried using it briefly, driving 2 and 3 inches screws, and I found it is a bit pleasant. Normal bits tend to stuck into the screw's head, but, it never happened with the torsion screw driver bit yet.




This time I put a cable tie, to see how fast the bit was spinning. I also demonstrated how the TD010F impact driver can varies the power output. Yeah, it seem like a slow motion, but it was taken in realtime. No tricks, just controlling the power using the trigger.

Enjoy

Thank you.

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totally_skint
post Mar 18 2012, 02:08 PM

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Why is that second screw going fast, then so hard going, then fast again?
Same thing unscrewing?

In the close-up at the end you can see the sawdust jumping around from the impact's vibration. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 18 2012, 02:58 PM

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It was hard to maintain the torque. Either I was accidentally squeezed the trigger harder to prevent it from stopping or the friction is lessen when it's start moving. Or, I just tired wasting time to keep it slow and demonstrated it is not a slow motion effect. smile.gif

Good observation. The screw also shredding tiny pieces of the wood.


Added on March 18, 2012, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(totally_skint @ Mar 14 2012, 10:22 AM)
Has anyone seen this Makita keyless chuck locally?
Makita 763198-1
Or any good equivalent.

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I found a smaller version of it, which can take up 6mm bit at ACE Hardware@Mines. Sellery Easy Chuck, cost around MYR20. It can be used for secondary or backup because it may wobble a bit.

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post Mar 18 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Mar 18 2012, 02:58 PM)
I found a smaller version of it, which can take up 6mm bit at ACE Hardware@Mines. Sellery Easy Chuck, cost around MYR20. It can be used for secondary or backup because it may wobble a bit.
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Why are there 1/4" and 3/8" hex shank parts?
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Mar 18 2012, 07:18 PM)
Why are there 1/4" and 3/8" hex shank parts?
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The bigger the shank, the bigger size bits or accesories can be used. There are drilling machines which use bigger shank size for bigger heavy duty bits.


Added on March 18, 2012, 9:57 pmThe mini chuck which I found at ACE Hardware@Mines.

Sellery 11-243
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Ref: http://www.sellery.co.id/component/page,sh...id,35/vmcchk,1/

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totally_skint
post Mar 19 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Mar 18 2012, 09:40 PM)
The bigger the shank, the bigger size bits or accesories can be used. There are drilling machines which use bigger shank size for bigger heavy duty bits.


Added on March 18, 2012, 9:57 pmThe mini chuck which I found at ACE Hardware@Mines.

Sellery 11-243
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Ref: http://www.sellery.co.id/component/page,sh...id,35/vmcchk,1/
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I asked because I've seen keyless chucks (online) with 1/4" and 3/8" hex shanks.
Minuscule difference really.

How does the Sellery wobble?
Loose shank?
TSbahathir
post Mar 19 2012, 02:42 PM

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The 1/4" hex shank for impact driver has a little space tolerance which the shank/shaft can moves in the impact driver's hex chuck; free playing.

I mean, it is not as perfect as the hammer drill or cordless drill chuck, but, it is still usable.

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post Mar 28 2012, 09:23 PM

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this tread is so quiet d, everyone got their makita tool d?
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post Mar 28 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Mar 28 2012, 09:23 PM)
this tread is so quiet d, everyone got their makita tool d?
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Still hunting for good price. blink.gif

I got quoted RM450/set for TD090DWE
But I prefer cheaper corded version.
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post Mar 29 2012, 09:11 AM

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Using my bosch cordless good enough lor for screw driving. Mostly I require only 3-4Nm.
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post Mar 29 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 29 2012, 09:11 AM)
Using my bosch cordless good enough lor for screw driving. Mostly I require only 3-4Nm.
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its never enough.... time to upgrade smile.gif

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