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josephlau7966
post Feb 20 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(californian @ Feb 20 2012, 10:05 AM)
Hi guys. need some advice here. been working over a year as a consulting engineer in construction field. thinking of becoming a project engineer. But not so sure what are the pros and cons... Anybody with experience mind to share? what i can say is life as consulting engineer is not too bad. almost 9 to 5. well, sometimes might need to work OT or travel outstation. but what i think consulting engineers lack is on-site experience! project engineer would normally take care A - Z of a project which allows you to have more control isn't it? what do you guys think? please please please share your experience!
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hi TS, I am in the same line with you. Since you are new, based on your situation, I would say consulting is having more advantages in terms of learning. We do not need to fully station at site to gain site experience. You have to think and ask a lot of questions and find the answers by yourself. Do not expect the working environment to spoon feed you. For me, I am working full time in consulting office. Whenever I got the chance to go to site for meeting or inspection, I will surely observe, take photos and communicate with the contractor. But in the other way round, the project engineer at site will seldom have the chance to experience the design process.

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post Feb 20 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ Feb 20 2012, 09:01 PM)
& the consulting engineer always lacks the knowledge on how to actually construct a structure..in other words, hand on....theres so much more 'interesting' problem on site than in office.

fyi: im a project engineer myself..i'm more hands on rather than office based.
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yeah....this is the disadvantage of being a consultant engineer. They can hardly deepen their knowledge on the construction work at the site. Thus, their design is sometimes unfeasible. And here comes the site engineer to do the magic. Anyway, i am much more interested in engineering design. That's why I am still sticking with consulting firm.

By the way, both types of engineer have their own strengths and weaknesses. We couldn't conclude who is more important.
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post Feb 20 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ Feb 20 2012, 09:26 PM)
Conclusion : both are equally important.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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In terms of prospect, the key to step up higher in consulting line is getting PE license. Engineers at site don't really bother to get PE license for career advancement but they may find it harder to establish their own business since it needs a huge amount of capital. Am I right???
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post Mar 26 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(royalz @ Mar 26 2012, 01:37 PM)
hi all sifus ..im a fresh grad in the field of mechanical engineering .. any companies u guys can recommend to me with lots of learning opportunities ? big or small doesnt matter.. Im interested in the consulting line for now ..and in the future of course i would like to be project engineer when i've enuff design knowledge ..also whats ur jobscope like for consultancy ? just designing?thanks
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Here is my advice....since you are from Mech. background, look for opportunity in oil & gas field instead of construction....Construction pays the lowest for M & E fresh grad among all the engineering fields...Moreover, M & E field in construction is saturated in terms of manpower at the moment....The market is full of players while projects are lesser now...In short, supply is more than demand...Even contractors are fighting bloodily to capture job until the profit margin becomes lesser and lesser, let alone consultants.....This is the effect of economy booming and downturn in 1993 & 1997......This situation may apply to C & S field as well....

PS : sorry for discouraging.....but this is the reality right at the moment.....

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post Mar 26 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(ch_teo @ Mar 26 2012, 04:51 PM)
follow josephlau7966 if you are from mech background. you can join o&g consultant like technip, worley parson, etc.

though i have left this construction field with M background to o&g but initially the first few years left, still got people phoned me if wanna join back. but my answer was no.
the construction projects & the current econ situation,
the big boss in a project is the architect & c&s/ owner & developer always,
working under hot sun/rain is ok but the compensation allowance is not on par as getting aging then health..., health is more important,
it is become more competitive among consultants nowadays in order to fight the tender price--> very low profit margin especially m&e, more & more self-open consultant or part time consultant (if you have been in this field long enough, part time out there lot),
when econ down can expect late progress payment if lucky enough -->hope no one close down company,
work at late night if need to rush drawing/design due to tight urgent schedule from owner/developer.

of course, consultant most of the time sit in the office but sometimes inspection, t&c may require to present at site or opportunity arise to become RE.

but i did learn a lot from 10 projects from high-rise commercial/government buildings to infra within 3 years.
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That is why in my honest opinion, I am quite pessimistic about the prospect of construction sector in malaysia. Beside the issue of too many players, corruption problem is getting worse as well. No matter how good your technical knowledge, without a "good relationship" with authority and developers, you cannot go any further in career advancement. Sadly, i have been a few years in this field. I could not afford to shift to O n G and start all over again. The alternative route left would be oversea for the same field.

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post May 15 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(hotblood_g3 @ May 9 2012, 07:24 PM)
Is it advisable for fresh engineering graduates to join consultancy firms? I have been offered jobs at a small consultancy firm and also another job at a multinational manufacturing company (injection moulding company) as QA engineer. I am kinda confused on which job to go for?
More concerned on my career path and the opportunity to grow further... I need some advise... Pls help...
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I could not decide for you which path is better. I never join manufacturing factory. So, I cannot comment on this. But some of my friends from factory are doing routine work in the same place everyday. They started to feel boring and not challenging. Just my opinion, most probably your job scope would be very specific in factory. The competitor companies know each other in whatever aspect (salary, benefit, culture and working environment). It will be a disadvantage for you as a employee. A few years down the road, you will find that your field is narrow and couldn't shift to other field to start all over again.

For consultancy firm, your future will be much more depends on your luck, personality and your "sifu". Just talk about your "sifu". Normally he is the Ir or the director of the firm. If he is nicely and sincerely treating you, you will learn a lot and have a better prospect. You don't mind to work for him during weekend without pay. If your "sifu" is a bustard, your future will be doomed. Going to office is just like going to hell everyday. no joke.

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