PMed already.

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Added on March 28, 2012, 8:23 amtoday tips: i would like to share today cost for indon worker. Indon worker normally call daily work as 'Kong'. So for today cost, one Kong abour RM70-RM80 per Kong per day. For supervisor rate, the Kong rate is RM90-RM100 per day.

Normall working hours is 8 am to 5 pm. Normally, contractor give overtime if working after 5 pm.

Therefore, reno cost nowadays is expensive, compare to 5 years ago, the Kong rate is only RM50.

This post has been edited by tomjason: Mar 28 2012, 08:25 AM

hello

can PM me the formula

tqtqtqtq

PMed you already.

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Added on March 28, 2012, 2:12 pmjust want to caution that, be extra carefull with the indon construction worker if you had indon maid. They like to hv an afair with your maid. You would not know what they do while you go to work.

This post has been edited by tomjason: Mar 28 2012, 02:12 PM

Bro, may I request a copy of the formulation from you to calculate the estimate cost for my renovation.

Thanks a lot!

PMed already.

can pm me the formula also?

PMed already

pm me also? thanks.

care to share it with me?

PMed straw & Liuism.

pm to me too.tq

Bro Tomjason,
A copy for me pls..appreciated thanks

I would love the formula too, hope you can PM it to me..,Thanks!!

PMed noien,ozone9,wlm already.



today tips:

please ensure that the space between roof trust frame is not more than 4 fts, this to ensure that the roof trust is strong enough to support your heavy roof tile.






pic below is my neighbour contractor using small wood for truss, i suppose 2x4 inches. If want better, use 3x5 inches. The disadvantage of wood is termite and wood after years..it will bend.

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Added on March 29, 2012, 11:08 amAnother tip:

to avoid any crack after plaster, please wet your wall before apply the cement for plaster. The brick has the strong ability to absorb water, thereofore if you do not wet the brick, it will absorb the water from your plaster cement, cause the your cement plaster premature dry , not normal dry.

These also apply when, cement the 'rabung' for roof. Please cement your 'rabung' not during high sun eg in noon.




TQ

This post has been edited by tomjason: Mar 29 2012, 11:15 AM


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can PM me the calculation as well?
TQ

What kind of shape is the metal roof trust frame? I beam, c shape etc.

Are there strong enough to walk on it at least?

Do you need to ground the frame?

Do this frame stand against the rust?

How is the cost compare to wood frame?

PMed Kinkong81.


Let me elaborate about this steel trust (kekuda). The steel trust is new to malaysia and to most contractors, not many contractor know how to install these steel trust. The difficulty in technique to assemble and joint between steel is the main reason, but if already expert or experience no problem. To the beginner, to install the steel they hv to assemble on the ground and lifted to the upper beam, lifted the frame is difficult job but with experience, they can install on the upper beam itself. The steel trust C type, to make is stronger, they must clamp together.









Are there strong enough to walk on it at least?

Yes, they are very very strong..when they are clamp together and joint compared to wood. As picture above. They do not bend over time as compared to wood, for wood you will see that your roof will 'melengkung or melendut' over time.

Do you need to ground the frame?
Certainly. You have ground it to upper beam.

Do this frame stand against the rust?
Yes, they are Galvanized to protect from rust

How is the cost compare to wood frame?
The overall cost is abit higher compared to wood, but it is one time investment, long lasting forever compared to wood.
The cost of per piece is not expensive around RM32 compared to wood but they must clamp together consisted of 2,3 piece to become one.
They are joint together using GI screw and if you were to buy loose, the screw cost RM0.08, but if per boxes more cheaper. Every joint between steel at least minimum 3 screw else afraid not strong enough.

This post has been edited by tomjason: Mar 29 2012, 02:44 PM

thanks bro

hi plz pm me too.Plan want to do renovation my house car porch.

This post has been edited by meezan: Mar 30 2012, 06:57 PM

Thanks for your answer.

From the picture I see, all the frame is using c type. I thaught the main is I beam and the rest is c type.

The joint is strong enough ? I see before those joint have a steel plate to joint together. Like a triangle plate.

From the picture, what is the cost for the metal frame roof?