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post Mar 17 2012, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2012, 05:36 PM)
Bro, my FLX SE dashboard rattle since day one, CVT mounting noisy, drumbrake noisy since second week, replaced twice, engine jerk like mad in the morning. So dont tell me I underestimate Proton. As much as i like the 1.6 liter with CVT powertrain, it is new tech and all, proton products still leave much to be desired. My car is currently 2 months old, btw.

Good if the P321a proves to be leaps and bounds ahead of their current line of products, I will consider it seriously. But now, with the car that I am driving, you expect me to take a leap of faith and believe that proton has improve drastically overnight?

Like I said, ill believe it when i see it.
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Proton most good quality car just savvy. Other really suks to max. Campro engine is the most failure one. The latest good car from proton is inspira but too early to judge.
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:23 AM

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Rather buy inspira.
My fren just told me p3 will not be selling in some countries due tO its quality problem.

NO offense. If u want problem free car better dont get p3 because my fren is one of proton's senior staff and he told me they found out inspira is muchmuch more better than p3.. Maybe is because of our proton still lack of knowledge to build a own design car.
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 17 2012, 12:27 AM)
problem free car
ya right...where are u going to buy one when merc and BMW also have problem
ferrari and lambo can just catch fire in the middle of the road(no one seem to bash, if happen to proton surely 1st page newspaper 2molo)
problem free car never existed
and "not selling in some countries due to its quality problem" will not happen
as long as they have dealer there, they can sell it....its just a matter of the customer want to buy or not only
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Its ok.. Just share info with you all. Please ignore my statement. Tq
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post Mar 17 2012, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Mar 17 2012, 12:57 AM)
i dont know what to define u

so i let u choose between this 2

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btw vios suck shit....
no power, cant corner, chassis soft like sponge...
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I dont mind.. My wife like to drive so much.
I guess u felt spicy over my statement. Lets see how p3 perform and the 2nd value.. Even perodua myvi 2nd value much better than your upcoming p3.. P3: pergi , pusing , pening
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post Mar 17 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 17 2012, 05:02 PM)
but the CVT will solve the underpower of it, smoother pick up and better FC compared to the 4AT
you'll know that if u own a saga
frm the underpower, bad FC 4AT...they just simply change to CVT and everything change...underpower doesn't exist and FC directly comparable to myvi
for real...need to test drive it only know
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After changed to cvt and the results just comparable to myvi.. I would say myvi FC is super duper high. Even a nissan sylphy 2.0 has better FC than myvi.
Believe it or not??
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post Mar 17 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 17 2012, 06:42 PM)
since u compare myvi with sylphy,
sylphy fc:

http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/Forums/...onsumption.aspx
lol..with ron 97, only can get 16km/l..while myvi 1.3 with ron 95, can easily get 17km/l..
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Please try the myvi with ron97 pls. Dont bulshit here. My house got sylphy and myvi and sylphy fc is better than myvi. Myvi for pasar pagi buy sayur use okla.. Travel very far use myvi sure headache
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post Mar 17 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:37 PM)
even the kelisa that i drive to work everyday has big different in mileage when using a ron97..full tank of ron 97 can easily beat the full tank of 95 with the same driving style..and since u said myvi use to go pasar only, means u only use it for a short/city drive..while the sylphy u use for a highway drive..of cos thats not a fair comparison..since ur house has a sylphy, that would be very seldom for u to drive a myvi for a long drive..
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I mean go to pasar mean just for a while. Fyi our house sylphy use to travel at city most of the time. I live in penang and most of the time is citu driving. Not like kl full with highways ok
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post Mar 18 2012, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 17 2012, 10:56 PM)
Photos taken by me

Date : 17/3/2012


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Now i knew the headlamp was copied from savvy.
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post Mar 18 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(SKYTECH @ Mar 18 2012, 02:08 PM)
Ya, support ! At least now proton already start improve in qc, exterior look, interior look, handling and performence.

For those which keep complain, i wonder are they malaysian or not, if they are malaysian, y they dun want jump into proton company, and do the best for proton ?

Or Izit most of them is low education , not enuf qualification to enter proton ? Answer yourself guys !  If u cant even scratch a car outlook, dont even think of design new product for proton, just keep quiet better.
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What are you trying to said? I got my first proton car.. Its not bad but if really want to compare with T & H its still lose. My family last time got one waja, saga old, saga lmst, proton wira and blm. Trusted them many times but they left us with regrets feeling. First you know why? If the car got problem we reported to SC but they just buat tidak apa attitude. Most of the time will answer you like this "is like that one" (macam itu punya). Muthafaker them, car is built to be broken/faulty??. I know not cars are perfect and sure got problem but japanese cars SC handle nicely and get it fixed for you. They are scared of customer complaints againt them. Proton?? I still remember this, last time my car brake cable faulty and they ask me to wait while getting it ordered. Waited for months and keep call them and they still buat tidak apa.. My handbrake cable cannot use for months, luckily my car is manual and i always use gear to stucked my car on uneven road. After waiting for so long i cant tahan already so i decided to email this to proton care service. After a week the SC call me and ask me to take back my deposit and get it replaced at other SC and i ask him WHY, he said i complaint their SC.. Wtf why i cant complaint? Brake cables need 2 to 3 months???

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post Mar 18 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 18 2012, 02:39 PM)
Serious?

You can find plenty of horror stories about T&H SCs who treat their customers like idiots. Worse, those customer's paid more money to be treated like idiots.

How did you think Honda City IDSI's CVT got such as bad rap? ever heard of the Honda owner who paste sticker on his Accord "My honda tak guna" and park in front of the SC? Oh and that thread where the Honda Hybrid battery kong and Honda tried to lie their way out of a warranty claim? Oh let's not forget the legendary cockroach urine in the ECU by Toyota UMW. Then there's a Naza Sutera owner whose engine kong a few days (or weeks?) after getting the car, and got treated like shit by Naza SC. My Cousin's BMW rear brake lamp kong they try to get out of warranty claim and ask RM8k from him (Among other problems, he swore never to buy a BMW again. Who does that?). Need I give more examples?

And despite Proton's problem your family bought so many Proton cars so that you can come here and complain? go buy Perodua lah. U think only Proton SC got problem? fine la I pay 50k for a baseline car, I complain you if you treat me like shit. I pay RM 500k and is still treated like shit what are you gonna say? throw money in his face ah?

Please go and worship your Vios J with scratched dashboard somewhere else.
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Fyi my dashboard scratches did by my wife and toyota still willing to help me replace new one. This proves that toyota service is good. I even scold the manage for minor things and the manager treat me like a king. Not same like proton at all.. Proton workers dare to scold customers.. Pay money to get proton and yet become bangla let them scold again.. Haha
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post Mar 18 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 18 2012, 03:30 PM)
No wonder la. Your perangai also act like king.  Even at toyota pun scold scold people.
No official date.  Word is end of this month or early april.
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At least the manager still treat me good proves that their service ia good.

No wonder la you as proton owner got bullied by their worker because you dont know scold.. Just behave like a bangla.. Lol
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post Mar 18 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 18 2012, 03:36 PM)
Don't need to behave like sohai to get a good service.
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Better than someone sohai got treathen like more sohai lol
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post Mar 18 2012, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Mar 18 2012, 05:19 PM)
better than KFC ma..staff come out hantam customer...

oh wai~ this is automotive thread  rolleyes.gif
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Kfc staff = Proton staff
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post Mar 18 2012, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 17 2012, 03:37 PM)
Official figures are not always reliable. Proton say the Saga FLX 1.6 top speed is 165 km/h, when already got member went 200km/h. Official FC figures, forget about it.

Bear in mind, the P321a is about 200-300kg heavier than the Vios, they are not even in the same segment of cars.

You should be comparing to Forte or Civic.
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Lol comparing p3 with civic?
Like comparing a bata shoe with nike.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 18 2012, 09:29 PM)
if can catch a glimpse, it should be gathering lots of bookings instead of only a measly 44 units on the first day.

I've personally seen the interior but cant see and feel the material used because every plastic panel is covered in swirl stickers. Can only see the position and shape of buttons, dials and vents.
(I sneaked into the container they stored the P3-21A mule which was used to versus the Persona at the event)


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credit to other person coz that's his camera. Mine ran out of batt sweat.gif
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An old sentra interior also much better than this low cost ciplak interior lol
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(eistern @ Mar 18 2012, 09:41 PM)
the rear lights are actually led or bulb?user posted image
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I wonder is the engineer/designer or technician mata sepek or kelopak mata senget until the lamp not alligned properly.. Hmm..
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:53 PM

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Hmm.. This car considered good also la if bought for my house maid siti.. smile.gif
I think she will happy as long got car to drive.
I recommend you all buy this low class car for maid as well. More cheaper than conti cars smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 18 2012, 10:51 PM)
RM75k car, ppl.

RM75k car.

Be thankful it has 3 more airbags than another similiarly priced jap car. That one don't even have front foglights, let alone rear.
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Lol.. 75k for a pensonic tv quality. Lucky got ppl pay 75k for panasonic lcd. Barangan buatan malaysia haihz..
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(razkal @ Mar 18 2012, 11:29 PM)
What this car have to do with TV???? Mindfucuk  rclxub.gif
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Someone bangla claims 75k for a buatan malaysia product worth (PENSONIC)
why not spend 75k for japanese product. (PANASONIC)

Your iq... Haih
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 18 2012, 11:30 PM)
Ignore the troll whos driving the 75k japanese shit with 1 airbag and no foglights.
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FYI im not driving 75k car. I bought for my wife.
I own a accord and weekend car. Secondly im very happy that some ppl still keep supporting proton because all my family members already not longer using proton. Proton more suit those low income ppl or kampung boi. Ppl who wish for better rides wont choose proton. Proton is always proton. Please upgrade yourself and upgrade your car. Tq

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