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angelgemini
post Apr 17 2012, 12:02 PM

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Hi all,

I have a question here.

Let say if i plan to buy a house and a car.
So i should drag the car loan to the max and any extra cash, will be put to the house loan? or other way round?

Specially with the flexi housing loan package.

Example:
house loan 400k - interest rate BLR - 2.4 (30 years)
Car loan 50k - interest rate 3.0

If work out, what is the best plan? drag the car loan to 9 years and extra money all put into house loan?
or shorten car loan to 3 to 5 years without any extra money pour into house loan?


Added on April 17, 2012, 2:05 pmUse Home Loan to Buy Car ?

anyone?

http://malaysiapersonalfinance.blogspot.co...to-buy-car.html

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Apr 17 2012, 03:06 PM
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Apr 9 2012, 06:56 PM)
For car loans you will find that the first half of the tenure, you are paying more interest than principle. For example, in a 5 yr loan, the first three years whatever you are paying to the bank, a larger portion of it goes to interest while a smaller portion goes to principle reduction. After three years if you intend to sell your car, you will find that the interest rebate is minimal.

Let's take a few examples, calculated courtesy of autoworld smile.gif

Basis for calculation:
Car price: RM115,000
Loan amount: RM100,000
Interest: 2.5%
Tenure: 5, 7 and 9 years
Car sold after 3yrs for RM75,000
5 yr loan: (RM100,000 x 1.125) / 60 = RM1,875/mth.

After 3 yrs: Amt paid (36 x RM1,875) = RM67,500
Interest rebate: RM1,885.25
Total owing to finance: RM43,114.75

Based on the above,

Total amount spent on "renting" the car for 3 yrs is:

(D/p + Amt paid for 3 yrs) less (Sold price - Total owing to finance)

(RM15,000 + RM67,500) less (RM75,000 - RM43,114.75)

= RM82,500 - RM31,885.25
= RM50,614.75
= RM1,406/mth cost of ownership
7 yr loan: (RM100,000 x 1.175) / 84 = RM1,398.80/mth.

After 3 yrs: Amt paid (36 x RM1,398.80) = RM50,356.80
Interest rebate: RM5,529.40
Total owing to finance: RM61,613.80

Based on the above,

Total amount spent on "renting" the car for 3 yrs is:

(D/p + Amt paid for 3 yrs) less (Sold price - Total owing to finance)

(RM15,000 + RM50,356.80) less (RM75,000 - RM61,613.80)

= RM65,356.80 - RM13,386.20
= RM51,970.60
= RM1,443.65/mth cost of ownership
9 yr loan: (RM100,000 x 1.225) / 108 = RM1,134.30/mth.

After 3 yrs: Amt paid (36 x RM1,134.30) = RM40,834.80
Interest rebate: RM9,770.65
Total owing to finance: RM71,894.60

Based on the above,

Total amount spent on "renting" the car for 3 yrs is:

(D/p + Amt paid for 3 yrs) less (Sold price - Total owing to finance)

(RM15,000 + RM40,834.80) less (RM75,000 - RM71,894.60)

= RM55,834.80 - RM3,105.40
= RM52,729.40
= RM1,464.70/mth cost of ownership
So, to sum it all up:

The monthly actual cost difference between a 5, 7 and 9 yr loan, based on a car that is sold after 3 yrs:

5yrs: RM1,405/mth
7yrs: RM1,443.65/mth
9yrs: RM1,464.70/mth

and, total interest paid after 3yrs:

5yrs: RM10,614.75 out of RM12,500
7yrs: RM11,970.60 out of RM17,500
9yrs: RM12,729.35 out of RM22,500

So, in reality, there's not much that separates between 5, 7 and 9 year loans due to the current low interest rates. And, if you have better use for your cash for investments or whatever, it makes sense to take 9 yr loans.
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Sorry noob question, how do u get the "interest rebate" figure?

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post Apr 23 2012, 12:41 PM

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I also wonder how you calculate the interest rebate? Would you mind explain?
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post Apr 23 2012, 01:15 PM

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Sonata offering 1.88% interest now.....

OCBC FD can get nearly 4.00% interest.....

Time to full loan 9 yrs and park some $$ in FD tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 23 2012, 01:15 PM)
Sonata offering 1.88% interest now.....

OCBC FD can get nearly 4.00% interest.....

Time to full loan 9 yrs and park some $$ in FD tongue.gif
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Is the interest fixed for 9 years?
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post Apr 24 2012, 10:19 AM

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if it's fixed for 9yrs, its really too good to be true.
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post Apr 24 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 23 2012, 01:15 PM)
Sonata offering 1.88% interest now.....

OCBC FD can get nearly 4.00% interest.....

Time to full loan 9 yrs and park some $$ in FD tongue.gif
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Wow....sonata gives 1.88% interest? I wonder how much do u save say compared with a 2.4% interest for a RM145,000.00 car for a 5, 7 & 9 years loan? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zapirwin @ Apr 24 2012, 11:20 AM)
Wow....sonata gives 1.88% interest? I wonder how much do u save say compared with a 2.4% interest for a RM145,000.00 car for a 5, 7 & 9 years loan? biggrin.gif
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Yes Sonata current promotion.

You should calculate how much u get form putting FD into OCBC... min deposit is 10k for 3 months @ 4% if I remember correctly. tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(neo110 @ Apr 10 2012, 05:20 PM)
Hi gregy,

You are right on the interest diff is minimal but you miss out one point here.

Based on your calculation, you have RM15k for a RM115k car. After 3 years if you plan to sell your car.

If you took a 5 year loan - you get back RM31,885.25
If you took a 7 year loan - you get back RM13,386.20
If you took a 9 year loan - you get back RM3,105.40

Am sure after 3 years, you'll plan to have a better car which will cost more than RM115k, or even same value. But you won't have RM15k d/p as you first bought it 3 years ago. If you take a shorter loan tenure, see how much you get back in cash to upgrade or even for other usage wink.gif

Moral of the story is, if you can't afford the more expensive car, get one which you can afford and not regret it later. It's never an advantage in taking a longer tenure for car loan.  smile.gif
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i assume the 'you get back' part means after 3 years you do full settlement by selling the 3 year old car at 75k, and what you got in return, aye?
if so, then for a car which is 115k NEW and only after 3 years its value goes down to 75k, then i can conclude that the vehicle is not worth to buy in the first place (if you are to consider using it as a downpayment for a new ride after 3 years) unless you want to use it for your entire life
so i strongly suggest for anyone to use this method, buy a NEW car with great value after 3 years. and unfortunately in malaysia, the strongest is of Japanese contigents. not all but brand H and T. i am not turning this thread into another fanboy vs hater subject, so on the brands i stop here.

i know someone selling his City after 3 years owning it. his loan is on 9 years commitment and loan interest is about 2.3-something (2-3 years ago). what he is getting now is more than what he paid for his downpayment for the City.

so the key is, for people who want to change car every 3 years, to buy a new car with great value after 3 years


Added on April 24, 2012, 12:39 pmand ah, for the interest rate, it seems for proton the longer u borrow AND the lesser your downpayment, the LOWER interest rate is. dunno bout other makes but yesterday went to check on preve the SA told so

now cimb giving 2.7 something for 10% on 9 years. and 2.8 for 10% on 7 years

This post has been edited by mokhzaini: Apr 24 2012, 12:39 PM
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post Apr 25 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Apr 10 2012, 07:14 PM)
Wow, thanks for taking it one step further smile.gif I guess in general, most ppl don't even bother to look beyond the surface. Also, we mustn't forget that inflation is another factor that is often overlooked when taking loans. Sure, when you look at effective interest rates you will balk, but if you factor in annual inflation, you will find that by putting in so much into a depreciating liability you are compounding the loss for the future. RM30,000 today is worth more than RM30,000 in 3 yrs time. If that money could be invested to counter the effects of inflation, then that would be the smartest move.

I made a similar calculation a while ago in my own thread, just to illustrate a point, and to stop people from looking at 9yr loans as if they were a major loss making venture. Once the numbers are revealed, many of the advocates of short loans are silenced; they didn't really take that one more step to look at the reality, which in the best sense of the word is called "penny pinching"...

Definitely, if you can put that money aside in say, some investment linked fund or maybe to fund a new home for investment, that is always better than placing all your hard earned cash in a depreciating liability.

And yes, having some extra funds for a rainy day is good too...
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At first, I did not against anyone here to take 9 years loan nor I didn't has any car loan now, and I'm really impressed also to have this much of detail calculation so everyone here know taking 9 years loan is by far a very good option indeed. smile.gif

But, to the fact that if you calculate the loss after 8 years, I think the different will be quite significantly shown and as we do not know we will be selling our car by the next 3 years or 8 years or even more than 8 years, how do we have a "basis" of comparing the interest for 3 years, 5 years, or 9 years ? hmm.gif

And, for those who pay off they car debts earlier, they will feel more released. nod.gif

I remembered once met a uncle who is constantly buying car by cash and when I asked him what's the reason behind and he told me this give him more pressure to look for money... biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2012, 09:45 AM

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guys, will the imported car tax reduce after the coming election held on probably on June??? sad.gif
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post May 4 2012, 05:26 PM

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Guys..quick question...the documents for the car loan...do we need multiple original copy for each bank or submit 1 copy is enough for multiple banks?
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post May 4 2012, 10:25 PM

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Why would anyone buy a car and then sell it after 3 years to incur 50% losses?
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post May 5 2012, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(ravensteele @ May 4 2012, 10:25 PM)
Why would anyone buy a car and then sell it after 3 years to incur 50% losses?
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easy answer. they fall in love with new car. hence they sell their car after 3 years, and buy new car.
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post May 20 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(shiyau @ May 5 2012, 01:42 AM)
easy answer. they fall in love with new car. hence they sell their car after 3 years, and buy new car.
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true
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post May 21 2012, 12:18 PM

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what would b the ideal car if my nett income is 1.8k. jus need some 2 cents
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post May 21 2012, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(wingl3ss @ May 21 2012, 12:18 PM)
what would b the ideal car if my nett income is 1.8k. jus need some 2 cents
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max rmm 600 for installment, but i wouldnt use that as a benchmark, and would go slightly lower than that for misc expenses... aim for 450-500 monthly installment, and you are in the range of saga, viva etc..
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ May 21 2012, 12:50 PM)
max rmm 600 for installment, but i wouldnt use that as a benchmark, and would go slightly lower than that for misc expenses... aim for 450-500 monthly installment, and you are in the range of saga, viva etc..
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thx meteoraniac, but is there any good used car that u can rekomen. (if u could spare another 2 cents)
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QUOTE(wingl3ss @ May 21 2012, 12:18 PM)
what would b the ideal car if my nett income is 1.8k. jus need some 2 cents
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If the net income you referring to is after income tax deduction, EPF deduction, mortgage/car loan deduction.

Then it is better to get a car below RM50K.
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QUOTE(Kiding @ May 21 2012, 05:04 PM)
If the net income you referring to is after income tax deduction, EPF deduction, mortgage/car loan deduction.

Then it is better to get a car below RM50K.
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Ok thx for the 4 cents guys. saga flx, 2005 city gonna go c this weekend. smile.gif

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