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Anime Fate/Stay Night, This thread wont die O_O
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cajun2de
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Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Gxen @ Apr 9 2006, 06:14 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « About Archer. My friend said that he read in some forum that Archer is Shiro in the future. Then I think, its possible right? Archer origin is unknown, real name is unknown, Archer use swords? He does look abit like Shiro. And in Japanese word "Shiro" means white, Archer hair is white? So I kinda believe abit that Archer Is Shiro, but not really comfirm yet. Then I saw the Latest EP, ep14. Archer said to shiro " Try to imagine something to achieve your victory " something like this la. Try to imagine this blablabla. When Archer fought with Berserker, Archer lost his weapon, but then suddenly he can summon it back, its like endless. So I think that He can imagine( this is what he said to shiro) something, anything he wants. A weapon a bow or even the surroundings. But when He almost lost, Shiro Face suddenly pops out. And one more thing that make me think about Archer is Shiro is that the Fatal Fake game, Archer can use Lance, and also Ex-calibur. Thats what I think. now i understand what u said after i found this in wikipedia » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Archer's identity is that of an adult Shirō Emiya, the main character of the entire series. Emiya sacrificed himself so he became a hero like he always wanted. Archer is actually Emiya's future spirit form. Since the spirit world doesn't have a time line, the spirits can travel into any part of time and participate in the Holy Grail War.
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Gxen
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Apr 9 2006, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(cajun2de @ Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM) now i understand what u said after i found this in wikipedia » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Archer's identity is that of an adult Shirō Emiya, the main character of the entire series. Emiya sacrificed himself so he became a hero like he always wanted. Archer is actually Emiya's future spirit form. Since the spirit world doesn't have a time line, the spirits can travel into any part of time and participate in the Holy Grail War. Oh well, that comfirm then
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SilverCrimz
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Apr 9 2006, 07:32 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and also the part where archer said Ilya, you're still as merciless as ever. That too also gave out some hints  .
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soulfly
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Apr 9 2006, 07:37 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ilya did looked shock when Archer said that
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Gxen
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Apr 9 2006, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Apr 9 2006, 07:32 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and also the part where archer said Ilya, you're still as merciless as ever. That too also gave out some hints  . Yea, that one too!
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soulfly
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Apr 9 2006, 07:55 PM
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expect some 'steamy' scene in the next episode  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « When Shirou thought he can be friends with Ilya, he is kidnapped to her castle. Saber, Rin, and Archer comes to save him together. While they were escaping, Berserker and Ilya stands in their way. Archer fights by himself to let the others escape. Saber, Shirou, and Rin gets to a rundown shack. By Rin's suggestion, they have a sexual intercourse to to replenish Saber's low mana. Having defeat Archer, Ilya and Berserker catches up to them. Saber fights Berserker equally, but she can't hurt his iron body. Rin did a surprise attack and blew up his head, but Berserker survived it. His Noble Phantasm was an immortal body that can regenerate itself 12 times. However, he is finally defeated when Shirou awakens to his true from of sorcery. Shirou creates a mirror copy of Saber's holy sword and defeats Berserker. Ilya had no more power to fight and Shirou lets her stay in his house. [source: Wikipedia]
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cajun2de
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Apr 9 2006, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 9 2006, 07:55 PM) expect some 'steamy' scene in the next episode  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « When Shirou thought he can be friends with Ilya, he is kidnapped to her castle. Saber, Rin, and Archer comes to save him together. While they were escaping, Berserker and Ilya stands in their way. Archer fights by himself to let the others escape. Saber, Shirou, and Rin gets to a rundown shack. By Rin's suggestion, they have a sexual intercourse to to replenish Saber's low mana. Having defeat Archer, Ilya and Berserker catches up to them. Saber fights Berserker equally, but she can't hurt his iron body. Rin did a surprise attack and blew up his head, but Berserker survived it. His Noble Phantasm was an immortal body that can regenerate itself 12 times. However, he is finally defeated when Shirou awakens to his true from of sorcery. Shirou creates a mirror copy of Saber's holy sword and defeats Berserker. Ilya had no more power to fight and Shirou lets her stay in his house. [source: Wikipedia] sexual intercourse? sure gets censored by the way » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Beserker's Noble Phantasm is his body. He has a total of twelve lives. So, he must be killed twelve times before he is defeated. frm the looks of it this anime will only be26 episodes i guess This post has been edited by cajun2de: Apr 9 2006, 08:25 PM
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soulfly
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Apr 9 2006, 08:26 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Berserker has been defeated like how many times.... 5 times already? This post has been edited by soulfly: Apr 9 2006, 08:26 PM
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cajun2de
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Apr 9 2006, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 9 2006, 08:26 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Berserker has been defeated like how many times.... 5 times already? yea....the info on your previous spoiler will finish him off
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soulfly
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Apr 9 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(cajun2de @ Apr 9 2006, 08:34 PM) yea....the info on your previous spoiler will finish him off  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « that was why Archer intended to keep on fighting Berserker eventhough he knows that he would lose.... right? so that it would be easier for the others to finish him
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cajun2de
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Apr 9 2006, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 9 2006, 08:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « that was why Archer intended to keep on fighting Berserker eventhough he knows that he would lose.... right? so that it would be easier for the others to finish him  yeap... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « he died several times before killing Archer. Afterwards, Rin Tōsaka used her jewels to blast his head and killed him once by doing so. Shirō Emiya and Saber then used the Caliburn to finish off the rest of Berserker's lives. talk about a tough opponent
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Gxen
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Apr 9 2006, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 9 2006, 08:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « that was why Archer intended to keep on fighting Berserker eventhough he knows that he would lose.... right? so that it would be easier for the others to finish him  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Since archer canot finish the job, I think shiro himself is goin to take the last life out of berserker. Yea, according to ANN, fate-stay night is going to end at ep26. 1/2 episodes to go
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linkinstreet
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Apr 9 2006, 10:57 PM
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Red Bull Addict
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meh... In teh game, Archer killed him 6 times, not 5. Archer.... sad to see him go, but still got Archer-ko
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cajun2de
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Apr 9 2006, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 9 2006, 10:57 PM) meh... In teh game, Archer killed him 6 times, not 5. Archer.... sad to see him go, but still got Archer-ko i'm not sure how many times archer killed him.....but i remember illya said 5 times....
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linkinstreet
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Apr 9 2006, 11:23 PM
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teh anime 5 times. the game 6. and archer was better in the game, didn even used UBW
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Stormy001_M1A2
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Apr 10 2006, 02:15 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Archer's identity.
Archer lied to Rin when she asked on who he was in gamestory. The anime version makes Archer have amnesia remembering on who he was.
1. The pendant that Archer has is the key to who he was. The one which Rin used to heal Shirou in the fateful night. In the game, Archer gave the pendant but Shirou kept the pendant as Rin find outs in UBW. That confirms to Rin on who is her Servant is.
2. Shirou used to be in Archery Club and considered by club's president as a very formidable archer. Despite retired, she still wants to challenge Shirou for a final duel on who is a better archer. (game conversation)
3. The Tracing ability is what Rin shocked to discover is similar to Archer's Kanshou and Bakunya blade imaging.
4. Archer knew Rin's pecularity of tea taste. In anime episode 9, Rin asked Shirou to brew her particular tea. In gamestory, Rin was pleasantly surprised by Archer's tea making skill.
In UBW he plan to kill younger version of himself because he got sick and tired of the principle. When he sacrifice himself to be heroic spirit, he was summoned to be clean up crew in disasters, have to kill some to save lives. In the end he become so disillusioned that he decided to end it all by kill his own existence. Hence the Reality Marble of Archer has machine wheels at the background signifies his feelings that he is just an automata for specific purpose. The younger Shirou Reality Marble has no wheels in the background in contrast, symbolizing his belief in justice.
In anime Berserker was killed 5 times, persumably Rin will kill him once with her precious jewels and the rest is done by Saber/Shirou combo. I am still puzzled as to what they mean by slightly different story in episode 16,
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cajun2de
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Apr 10 2006, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Apr 10 2006, 02:15 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Archer's identity.
Archer lied to Rin when she asked on who he was in gamestory. The anime version makes Archer have amnesia remembering on who he was.
1. The pendant that Archer has is the key to who he was. The one which Rin used to heal Shirou in the fateful night. In the game, Archer gave the pendant but Shirou kept the pendant as Rin find outs in UBW. That confirms to Rin on who is her Servant is.
2. Shirou used to be in Archery Club and considered by club's president as a very formidable archer. Despite retired, she still wants to challenge Shirou for a final duel on who is a better archer. (game conversation)
3. The Tracing ability is what Rin shocked to discover is similar to Archer's Kanshou and Bakunya blade imaging.
4. Archer knew Rin's pecularity of tea taste. In anime episode 9, Rin asked Shirou to brew her particular tea. In gamestory, Rin was pleasantly surprised by Archer's tea making skill.
In UBW he plan to kill younger version of himself because he got sick and tired of the principle. When he sacrifice himself to be heroic spirit, he was summoned to be clean up crew in disasters, have to kill some to save lives. In the end he become so disillusioned that he decided to end it all by kill his own existence. Hence the Reality Marble of Archer has machine wheels at the background signifies his feelings that he is just an automata for specific purpose. The younger Shirou Reality Marble has no wheels in the background in contrast, symbolizing his belief in justice.
In anime Berserker was killed 5 times, persumably Rin will kill him once with her precious jewels and the rest is done by Saber/Shirou combo. I am still puzzled as to what they mean by slightly different story in episode 16, dude shouldn't you be using spoiler tags since you're referring the upcoming episode
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Halfhearted04
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Apr 10 2006, 03:36 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « posting old stuff or havn't seen befor ? just tot it's funny ..
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linkinstreet
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Apr 10 2006, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(cajun2de @ Apr 10 2006, 02:28 AM) dude shouldn't you be using spoiler tags since you're referring the upcoming episode nah, that for me is no spoiler, as archer is already dead and pplk should have already guessed who he was. It's really easy to guess who he was really, as a master need to have something that belongs to that servant to summon it.
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linkinstreet
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Apr 10 2006, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Halfhearted04 @ Apr 10 2006, 03:36 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « posting old stuff or havn't seen befor ? just tot it's funny ..  yep,i've poster it a way back
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