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post Feb 15 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(antkuchiki @ Feb 15 2012, 05:33 PM)
does anyone know the latest price of SGS2 (ori SME)
doesn't matter G or non G..

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RM1,899

Guys, seen utter?. holy cow at the end of video can translate and boot into bootloader all o.O
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 15 2012, 07:54 PM)
Almost **anything** look nice when naked.!! ~~LOL~~

~~@ TheLaptopDudeGuy
Not speaking on behalf Uncle Benny or fallenangelz but my GNex still on stock roms. No root or custom roms. Pure vanilla ICS 4.0.2 and like i said before it's sluggish and the volume sound an old sick grandma. Too damn slow even with Volume + app installed. Maybe things will improve when receive upcoming updates. Who knows.?
Or maybe root it and put custom kernel/roms will improve this things but as Uncle Benny and fallenangelz said, their phone also quite sluggish. Or is it because all of us had used the blazing fast SGSII before so we find GNex with ICS is a little letdown.
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Hmm substantially sluggish? Didn't play with my friend's one alot, but although I wasn't particularly impressed with the whole rave about revolution of smoothness, I didn't seem to notice it was sluggish.

wave, by sluggish, are we talking speed or smoothness?

But could be because ICS is freshly baked, while on S2 we're used to <insert rom here> + siyah/redpill + thunderbolt laugh.gif

But yeah, the whole online reviews about it being a major step forward in terms of smoothness, I can't particularly agree with that. And speed wise, I feel S2 is alot faster.
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 16 2012, 06:22 AM)
It sluggish in term of speed, not smoothness. GNex is smooth alright. On that Google earn their credit. But with same 1.2Ghz dual cores (though different processor) GNex should be as snappish as SGSII :-(
~~just my two cents~~
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Ah then yeah, guess it's not as fast. And for me personally, I'm a fan of speed over smoothness of transitions tongue.gif
Hmm maybe needs time for ICS to mature abit? Or it's just cause of all the added transitions that's slowing it down? What do you feel when using your Nex

And oh guys, checkrom V6 right around the corner. Should be out late evening/night our time my guess tongue.gif:

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Ok guys jkay 13.6.1 for xwla4 deodexed is out!!!

Unfortunatly i am going to sleep, and GC is already sleeping.. GC and me have 6 hours time diff

Tomorrow morning we will start releasing stuff..


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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Feb 16 2012, 08:40 AM)
Transition smoothness/GUI smoothness is just a perception many people have.

I find that a launcher's developer would be able to optimise GUI smoothness if they wanted to.

I rather have speed over smoothness too because if its slow its slow.
I have a milestone on CM7 that's smooth, but slow when opening apps.

But can't help it if the RAM and processor speed is ..z.

On the other hand, the SGS that I had, was smooth and relatively fast.
Even though the GUI would occasionally be jerky, now with MIUI and Golauncher it is smooth and snappy.

User experience for that is much better than original, darky or even CM7.

My everyday phone however is the SGS2, and although the only tweak I've done to it was to flash speedmod kernel.

Using golauncher, the GUI is smooth and the experience is fast. Although 'fast' is a relatively subjective term, it loads apps and websites quick enough for me to feel good using it.

A lot of my friends who complain about a phone being slow, etc. I will bring out my milestone and tell them that 'slow' isn't the right term, but rather choppy.
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Yeah agree with you, choppy and slow are 2 different things.

Not just in launching apps, but general navigation of the apps and other menus. e.g. pressing back multiple times to exit from a deep settings menu. Happens real fast on the S2. And I do see the occasional jerk, but that doesn't affect the speed usage.

Have a feeling iphone is not particularly fast, with the transitions and all. I could be wrong (then again then don't hit back much, just the home button)
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 16 2012, 08:58 AM)
What do I feel about my stock GNex.??
Quite disappointed actually. Maybe it because of my high expectation on a fast, powerful and awesome latest Google phone. Still, I had no regret buying this phone as I believe it will matured in coming times. But until that times come, it will be sitting inside the box as i prefer using SGSII for daily usage while GNote as a secondary phone when i have some leisure times.  :-)
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Wah you ni, 3 top samsung semua ada laugh.gif

Hmm yeah, I wasn't particularly impressed when using my friend's one. Just visually cantik only. Speed > smoothness & looks to me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 16 2012, 09:09 AM)
But it has awesome screen..!! Beat SGSII hand down in screen category ~~LOL~~
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Hmm really? Maybe I need to actually use it longer to notice tongue.gif
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Feb 16 2012, 10:26 AM)
I don't find any significant difference in G Nexus screen vs SGS II. Frankly I still prefer SGS II display over the G Nexus
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Hmm same feeling in terms of difference, but I don't prefer either screen. Both are ok for me tongue.gif

QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Feb 16 2012, 10:38 AM)
head to head comparison
(my own 2cents, multiple by 25 then it will be 50cents  icon_idea.gif )
1. in terms of comfortable on hand:
GalNex>SGSII>GalNote (all naked)

2. in terms of screen attractiveness:
GalNote>SGSII>GalNex (if u din go compare the pixel shits, SGSII's screen will give u a fake impression.

3. in terms of camera quality:
GalNote>SGSII>GalNex. however zero lag shutters and the modded Camera ICS that can enable silent shutter makes it my favourite, if u get wat i mean  brows.gif 

4. in terms of transition animation smoothness:
GalNote>SGSII>GalNex. seriously wtf is wrong with GalNex's transition animation?

5. browsing experience: (all using stock browser)
GalNote>GalNex>SGSII. well bigger is better, and the reason GalNex is edging over SGSII is because ICS's browser is better than GB's.

6. ergonomy of use:
GalNex>SGSII>GalNote. my palm too small  doh.gif

7. gaming:
GalNote>SGSII=GalNex. GalNex wins in terms of compatibility, but dun have samsung appstore or games hub make me so sad  cry.gif

8. battery life:
this one no need compare. GalNote wins it all. but standby power preserving i can say GalNex is better than SGSII. but when on actual usage i feel that SGSII can last longer compare to GalNex  hmm.gif

9. navigation
GalNex wins like hell. while using GalNote i need to wait around 10 secs for gps to trace my location, but on GalNex its like almost instant. SGSII? :yaoming's face:

10. storage
this one no need compare la, GalNex is not in the same league to play.

11. connectivity
GalNote>SGSII>GalNex
while NFC is not widely used yet and i'm too lazy to dig out my BH505 from the hell packs of boxes, GalNex's wifi direct pissed me off. the function is there, but cannot initiate nor get connected. i dun noe wat's going on but seems like everyone is having the same issue. btw tried connect my GalNote with MHL+HDMI and play asphalt 6 on my home's toshiba 42", works like charm  brows.gif

conclusion: GalNote really stands out. SGSII and GalNex dun have much diff. both have their pros n cons. only when SGSII got the official ICS and GalNex's ICS version is stabled then oni can compare again. but once u tried GalNote on ur hand, u'll nvr head back for smaller screens.
feel free to challange my conclusion, afterall usage pattern and preference is different from one to another.
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Nice summary dude smile.gif

Wanted to get Note, but so far the units I've played with (stock) aren't as smooth/fast as S2, probably because of the larger screen/higher pixel count?

Not sure what your experience is currently though with new firmware etc. The units I've played with are at Samsung Gardens, Pyramid and a friend's unit (not very savvy, so not rooted or updated or whatever I suppose)

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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Feb 16 2012, 10:58 AM)
SGSII last time is on andromeda, latest before i sold it.
GalNex is on maguro build updated last week.
GalNote is on LA6, latest firmware.

and while i'm not sure yet the devices u had tested is running which firmware and izit really got difference, sometimes i will also notice some lag especially while playing HD games. and i jz press the home button and back to the home screen, check the tast manager and din do anything, then back to the game and its smooth d.
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Hmm let's say apart from games? Like general navigation and UI wise. Few examples I can think off my head is like to:

1. pinch to zoom on home screen with same widgets loaded on S2/Note
2. General navigation through the apptrays, through the settings menus, etc. While doing it fast.

Do you feel a slight sluggishness compared to S2?
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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Feb 16 2012, 11:11 AM)
pinch to zoom: yes on GalNote. no on GalNex. i dun think any of us will use the pinch to zoom function on homescreen though. not practical and in fact no meaning at all to me.

navigate thru app drawers: GalNote no lag, GalNex got lag. i got 14 pages of apps on my GalNote and only 3 pages on GalNex. and yet GalNex lags. i duno this is the problem of ICS or wat but seriously, F***.
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Lag aside, like we were discussing this morning, speed wise? Like can you swipe say, 3 times to the right as fast on the GNote?

Pinch to zoom yeah, I won't use unless I have a gazillion screens (pressing the little number dots are actually much faster). But was just giving a tangible example of what I feel about the speed of the UI as a whole, since this example is alot more apparent.

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So much for reviews on the revolutionary smoothness of GNex? Seems like our few users here aren't reporting as such o.O

milestone 3 is a custom rom?
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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Feb 16 2012, 12:49 PM)
milestone 3 is like aosp custom rom. with a freaking ugly pink unicorn boot animation.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Ah okay. But doesn't help much in your sluggishness problem compared to stock rom?

Hmm should really go play with the nexus a little more and see how it's like. So ICS is not the bomb huh tongue.gif
(personally, if you ask me, the main thing I want from ICS, is to be able to swipe away notifications lol)
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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Feb 16 2012, 01:07 PM)
yup i love this feature very much, but i also miss the call/sms feature in contact list (swipe left=sms, swipe right=call)
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Hence waiting for samsung ICS thumbup.gif

QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 16 2012, 01:19 PM)
What talk you..!!?? I thought all this while you're using white AP non-G set (bought from bebeq) same like me.?


Added on February 16, 2012, 1:28 pm

There's nothing extraordinary with the blardy ICS ~LOL~
You can close app in GNex by swipe it away but in SGSII on GB, it's much easier by using Task Manager.
One touch can close all active apps :-P
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I couldn't care for that. I was referring to notifications in status bar ontop bro tongue.gif
Useful for me, I have some nonsense notifications sometimes I just wanna see in my status bar and get rid of it by swiping away without clearing the rest. Only way to do that is click that then immediately click back to exit the app. Not cool tongue.gif
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QUOTE(erymanthus @ Feb 16 2012, 02:28 PM)
Actually what I'm keen to find out is the effectiveness of these Powerbanks in charging our SGS2...

For example, if I have a 4400maH Yoobao, does it mean that I can charge our SGS2 1650 mah (from zero to 100%) two times...ie 1650 x 2 = 3300maH... still less than 4400mah.

Does it work like that?

Or a fully charged 4400maH Yoobao will never be able to charge our SGS2 1650mah from 0% to 100%?

Thanks for any advice from those who have experience with these Powerbanks...

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On a rough level, won't run too much right.

So even if you wanna be prudent, 4400mah would give you slightly more than 2x of your current usage. If that's enough for you, get that one. If not, go for higher one.

Just do the math and save some buffer for inefficiency etc, just in case
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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Feb 16 2012, 03:44 PM)
seriously we nid those external charger because it is portable enough to be cary around but that@@ who will even wan to carry one of this when he is travelling==
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Well on a day to day basis, if you're not one to carry a bag or whatever then yeah, probably you won't want to be luggering it around (don't think these are actually pocketable)

But say you go on a day trip. And you need your phone for GPS and browsing. And you go a full day. Then yeah, you'll definitely not mind luggering it around then laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Feb 16 2012, 03:57 PM)
i would say even a 11200 mAh Yoobao is enough to hold ur day trip, taking that is like extending ur wall plug from home  shocking.gif , but anyway the more the better is what human prefer haha
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Yeah. It's a leceh solution I'm not a fan of, but it helps.

Those iphone clip on battery packs would be nice laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pikachu01 @ Feb 16 2012, 04:33 PM)
Me smile.gif
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Any significant difference? Or just support for your LA4

Hmm waiting for checkrom. But I don't particularly theme much, maybe I should flash stock rom hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pikachu01 @ Feb 16 2012, 04:37 PM)
Support for LA4 smile.gif And a few new features. Check the thread smile.gif
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Oh got new feature? Nice, will go check his thread smile.gif

Edit:

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Created Colored Circle Battery too (green:100-31, yellow 30-16, red 15-0)
* Added one more row of sliders to AOSP lockscreen (now 4 rows)
* Added Wi-Fi hotspot quick panel toggle
* Added the 4 power buttons (reboot, recovery, download and power off) to quick panel too (by request!)
* Fixed bug when 'Screen on' quick panel toggle was enabled at boot (would FC SystemUI)
* Fixed a bug on AOSP Deluxe lockscreen at screen off


Wow nice, hotspot is finally there. And can go to recovery and all from quick panel lol. Hmm hoping checkrom v6 comes soon, if not back to stock la tongue.gif

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Still waiting for checkrom v6 yawn.gif

Hmm but someone in the thread mentioned LA4 was removed from Kies (in Germany at least) due to stability issues
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QUOTE(Shizuru @ Feb 16 2012, 09:22 PM)
Leo said it was a great base for CR hmm.gif
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Yalo. Hopefully it turns out fine

I searched for deleted_wake_lock which I seem to get in BBS. did some searching and ant00 you mentioned it's a known problem to occur in siyah? Hmm wonder I should switch to older versions of siyah instead
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QUOTE(triniebct @ Feb 16 2012, 09:46 PM)
if i do that, will my apps n settings all go missing?
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Well, yes.

Are you on the non G or G variant? Can you recall when the problem started occuring? (since you purchased the phone? since you installed particular apps? since you inserted an sd card? etc)

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