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post Feb 4 2012, 01:57 PM, updated 14y ago

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I've just graduated from SPM and am planning to pursue ACCA and also CFA. I would like to know which university/tuition provider over the world is well renowned and recommended for those professional qualifications?

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post Feb 4 2012, 02:21 PM

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Me too. =)
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QUOTE(meishien5602 @ Feb 4 2012, 01:57 PM)
I've just graduated from SPM and am planning to pursue ACCA and also CFA. I would like to know which university over the world is well renowned and recommended for those courses?
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There is no university that is renowned for CFA and ACCA. There are "tuition providers" that are good for these courses, but not well renowned in the world. ACCA and CFA are professional qualifications. Normally you would need to have a degree to sit for ACCA and CFA, though ACCA you get to skip the degree requirement and a little papers through the CAT and ACCA Fundamental papers.
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post Feb 4 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(YH90 @ Feb 4 2012, 03:06 PM)
There is no university that is renowned for CFA and ACCA. There are "tuition providers" that are good for these courses, but not well renowned in the world. ACCA and CFA are professional qualifications. Normally you would need to have a degree to sit for ACCA and CFA, though ACCA you get to skip the degree requirement and a little papers through the CAT and ACCA Fundamental papers.
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Oops! Oh ya, I almost forgot about that. So do you have any idea on which are the good tuition providers for these professional qualifications?
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post Feb 4 2012, 03:30 PM

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In Malaysia, I think sunway n tarc have an platinum status in ACCA tt ?
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post Feb 4 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jia Lin @ Feb 4 2012, 03:30 PM)
In Malaysia,  I think sunway n tarc have an platinum status in ACCA tt ?
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I know Sunway has it. Not sure about Tarc.
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post Feb 4 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(meishien5602 @ Feb 4 2012, 03:54 PM)
I know Sunway has it. Not sure about Tarc.
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Hmm...but I registered April intake for CAT at sunway subang.
So are u sure u are going to take CFA after ACCA? I'm thinking of it too...but will just decide after ACCA I think...
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post Feb 4 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jia Lin @ Feb 4 2012, 04:03 PM)
Hmm...but I registered April intake for CAT at sunway subang.
So are u sure u are going to take CFA after ACCA? I'm thinking of it too...but will just decide after ACCA I think...
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ya. so that i can be involved in investment banking and other analysts. I mean, wider choice of career. April for CAT? Four months introductory right? If I choose CAT then i'll probably meet you!
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post Feb 4 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(meishien5602 @ Feb 4 2012, 04:23 PM)
ya. so that i can be involved in investment banking and other analysts. I mean, wider choice of career. April for CAT? Four months introductory right? If I choose CAT then i'll probably meet you!
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Ya! Hehe.
So tell me after you made your decision. wink.gif
And maybe we can take CFA together one day too..
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post Feb 4 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Jia Lin @ Feb 4 2012, 04:44 PM)
Ya! Hehe.
So tell me after you made your decision.  wink.gif
And maybe we can take CFA together one day too..
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Sure. If I'm not accepted for any scholarship or going any A levels. haha.
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post Feb 4 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 4 2012, 05:07 PM)
in malaysia, the famous tuition providers for ACCA are Sunway, Kasturi and TARC. Out fo these 3, only Sunway and Kasturi also provides CFA programme.

If you want to have a university campus environment, go for sunway. If cost is a factor, den go for Kasturi. However, Sunway is have some sort of good relationship with audit firms and i've heard investment banks and as such may be able to assit you with placement in investment banks. Not to mention, the library is also bigger and more complete as as sunway student, you can access monash library too (which means, you cna have access to books related to investment banking, very important to have deep knowledge in this field if you wanna join ib as a fresh out of college). And there are much more curricular activities to join in Sunway which is also important in applying to IBs.
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Ya, I've heard that Sunway has close relationship with the big 4 or 5 accounting firms. So Sunway TES is close with some investment banks too?
About the library, you mean I can access to monash library for IB because there are less books related to IB in sunway library?
Can you tell me more about IB? Like, how to join as a fresh graduate.
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post Feb 4 2012, 05:48 PM

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Sunway is the best..smile.gif..Here's the link.

http://sunway.edu.my/college/sunwaytes

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QUOTE(simigirl @ Feb 4 2012, 05:48 PM)
Sunway is the best..smile.gif..Here's the link.

http://sunway.edu.my/college/sunwaytes
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Thanks. What about other countries? Like UK? Because the papers are originated from there what. I've already gone through the link a couple of times. haha
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QUOTE(meishien5602 @ Feb 4 2012, 01:57 PM)
I've just graduated from SPM and am planning to pursue ACCA and also CFA. I would like to know which university/tuition provider over the world is well renowned and recommended for those professional qualifications?
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You don't have a degree, forget about CFA unless you graduated with a degree first.
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post Feb 4 2012, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 4 2012, 07:19 PM)
What I know is, the programme director got a close working relatioship with the HR heads of quite a lot of local IB as they send their students to sunway for classes. Not to mentioned, many of alumni from the ACCA programme have moved to Ib from audit field.

About the books. Yea. there are many book about the investment field that you borrowed and read. Bear in mind, acca and cfa just provide a certification on the threshold knowledge, there're still much to learn. depending on which company's interview u go to, some of them asked questions of which are quite technical as they're looking for candidates that have job fit. This is especially the case if you apply directly yo the dept u like as in CF, research etc etc without going through a general management trainee programme.
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So what's the general management trainee program about?
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post Feb 4 2012, 08:12 PM

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sunway of course...platinum status smile.gif
not quite sure bout other unis.
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post Feb 4 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Feb 4 2012, 07:11 PM)
You don't have a degree, forget about CFA unless you graduated with a degree first.
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Ya, this I know. I mean, which tuition provider all over the world should I go for those professional qualifications when I achieve all the entry requirement.
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QUOTE(meishien5602 @ Feb 4 2012, 08:14 PM)
Ya, this I know. I mean, which tuition provider all over the world should I go for those professional qualifications when I achieve all the entry requirement.
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IMO, you shouldn't be looking at professional qualifications now but rather your 1st degree. You should be aiming for the best university for your degree and after that, you won't need any other qualification unless it's the license required for your job or you just want to take it for fun.

Think of it this way, everyone with a degree, whether from a no name college to world renowned Harvard can take ACCA and CFA. But how many people can actually enter Harvard and be top of their class?
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post Feb 5 2012, 01:10 AM

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MBA hands down all 1st degree. One girl from mickey mouse univ then go Nanyang MBA now at the top in M1 singapore at 27-28 yrs old
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Agree with ^. Go do a degree first and try get into reputable institution.

Not having a degree will seriously limit your option in the future. ACCA/CFA etc cannot get you entry intro top-tier graduate schools...

My friend used to do a degree at a so-so uni and is now doing Masters at Cambridge. Cambridge for example does not accept ACCA/CFA for any of their business programme but any degrees as long as you performed in them.


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post Feb 5 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 5 2012, 04:03 AM)
there goes my dream. lol
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Some top business schools does not require degree but instead requires applicants to have really unique experience (think really successful startups like facebook or charity founder etc) or is at very high managerial position ie. those guys that don't really need MBAs... so it's a catch-22...
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post Feb 5 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(YH90 @ Feb 4 2012, 08:32 PM)
IMO, you shouldn't be looking at professional qualifications now but rather your 1st degree. You should be aiming for the best university for your degree and after that, you won't need any other qualification unless it's the license required for your job or you just want to take it for fun.

Think of it this way, everyone with a degree, whether from a no name college to world renowned Harvard can take ACCA and CFA. But how many people can actually enter Harvard and be top of their class?
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What about degree from University of Oxford Brookes? Of course I'll get the degree. But I just wanna know where is the best for ACCA/CFA
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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 5 2012, 03:17 PM)
that is like a mickey mouse degree. However, if you do take acca route, pls take the obu degree as it is still a degree nonethless and would helpful in fulfillinf the basic requirements of having a degree for certain postgrad course and employment in certain firms.
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mickey mouse degree. means it's nothing so great?
If I take ICAEW, then i won't even have to chance to take the degree?
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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 5 2012, 03:33 PM)
yup. that's the downside to taking icaew. not to mention the length of the programme and you dependence on your ATE. if they sack you within the the 3 years, you're quite screwed
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LOL> They won't sack you without any reason what. I'll of course behave myself what. But ICAEW is more prestigious.
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Feb 5 2012, 12:25 PM)
Some top business schools does not require degree but instead requires applicants to have really unique experience (think really successful startups like facebook or charity founder etc) or is at very high managerial position ie. those guys that don't really need MBAs... so it's a catch-22...
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she has mickey mouse degree and her exp is very average. just 2.5 yrs in EY corporate finance.
ICAEW is nothing if you have Nanyang MBA
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QUOTE(meishien5602 @ Feb 5 2012, 02:37 PM)
What about degree from University of Oxford Brookes? Of course I'll get the degree. But I just wanna know where is the best for ACCA/CFA
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Relating to the CFA Program only.

If you're in Malaysia, the course providers are:
1) Kasturi (now Malvern International College)
2) Noesis Ex Ed
3) Sunway College
4) MRR Consulting (Penang)

Kasturi & Noesis have been around for the past few years while Sunway's tuition is still new and no passing rates have been reported by them. As of Dec 2011, Noesis's Level 1 passing rate is 50% (against Global average passing rate of 38%). Not too sure about Kasturi's passing rate. By the way, I'm a Noesis student. Not much idea about MRR Consulting (based in Penang).

If you're in Singapore, the famous tuition providers are Kaplan & 7City. Kaplan will be the more popular choice in SG, UK & US.

With that aside, complete your degree or ACCA first. Once you are near to completion and you are still interested in pursuing the CFA program, then start surveying around the market for the more successful tuition providers (there could be new start-ups a few years from now).




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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 5 2012, 09:32 AM)
she has mickey mouse degree and her exp is very average. just 2.5 yrs in EY corporate finance.
ICAEW is nothing if you have Nanyang MBA
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Nanyang is not a top MBA. I'm thinking more like INSEAD.
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Feb 5 2012, 09:46 PM)
Nanyang is not a top MBA. I'm thinking more like INSEAD.
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How bout in Malaysia? I heard MBS (sunway) and Nottingham is one of the best MBA in Malaysia?
And how bout in Sg?
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Feb 5 2012, 09:46 PM)
Nanyang is not a top MBA. I'm thinking more like INSEAD.
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value for money..if you see the resume of INSEAD student, they also ain't that great.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 5 2012, 03:31 PM)
value for money..if you see the resume of INSEAD student, they also ain't that great.
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You do MBA to network. Nanyang does not have the proper signalling value and hence won't have that many outstanding candidates.

Some students at INSEAD will have average background sure, but you are also more likely to work alongside very very talented individuals.

Also, INSEAD is a hothouse for management consultancies. It's much easier to get interviews at MBB consultancies with INSEAD on your CV rather than Nanyang. Greater mobility as well.

Only do MBA if it's a globally recognizable name (within business community).
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Feb 5 2012, 11:15 PM)
You do MBA to network. Nanyang does not have the proper signalling value and hence won't have that many outstanding candidates.

Some students at INSEAD will have average background sure, but you are also more likely to work alongside very very talented individuals.

Also, INSEAD is a hothouse for management consultancies. It's much easier to get interviews at MBB consultancies with INSEAD on your CV rather than Nanyang. Greater mobility as well.

Only do MBA if it's a globally recognizable name (within business community).
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executive MBA good for network..full time MBA, they also are same with u..just average 30 yrs old..they are not in management position..I don't think management consultancy that prestigious..IB is better, aim Columbia better
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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 5 2012, 04:23 PM)
Hi, I need to ask ur opinion. if i got a obu degree with acca and cfa, u think i'd make the cut for the academic requirements portion for mba in INSEAD?
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They look at many aspects of your application, prior academic achievement is only one of them.

I don't think you will be disadvantaged but admission committee might question why you need to do MBA considering you have two professional qualifications already ie. do you want to change industry and move into consulting, start a new business etc etc

A lot of people use MBA to change careers/move into different industries...

The most important part of application is your work experience and extracurriculars. Some business school put huge emphasis on CGPA though... eg for Stanford it will be extremely difficult to get into without CGPA of more than 3.50 and minimum 700 GMAT...
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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 5 2012, 05:11 PM)
icic. anyway, u mentioned that your friend did his/her degree ina  so-so uni and got into cambridge. do u mind to share with which uni is that? if u don't feel nice to post it here, u can pm me. thanks in advance smile.gif
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Normal uni. I suspect he got in because he ranked first out of 100 students in class. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 5 2012, 05:32 PM)
erm, normal in the sense is it on par with monash, nottingham (ie. top 200) or normal foreign or normal local (ie. sunway/taylors). which of this league is it in? lol.. sorry for the question.. really wanna assess my chance of getting in a top uni for postgrad
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It doesn't matter. There are people on his course from other asian countries who came from unis you and I have never heard of.

The important thing is your ranking in class. If you came first in a class of 300 students for example, it speaks volume.

 

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