As expected, a Civic thread again turn out to be war zone between Korean vs Japanese.

To Pro Japanese (or Honda to be specific):
1. Resale value is overrated. Buying car = 100% lose money investment. If resale value is very important for you, that means you dumping too much money to buy the car. Buy an extra house instead if you want to have good return.
2. You already save a few 10k opting for Korean car. (forte for example).
3. New civic 1.8 is really very entry. Spec mainly stay the same as 5 years ago. New I-Mid is just a bigger info display screen. Honda is pushing 2.0 while most of the Malaysian prefer 1.8 (price wise, fuel consumption wise).

To Pro Korean (Kia and Hyundai)
1. Honda still have better engine (Civic to be specific) in terms of smoothness. The good example is the engine can take 0W20 oil easily, which is very low viscosity. Elantra for example, still have to use 5W-40 or 5W-30. High RPM and engine revving smoothness is still Honda strong point, but Korean is not too far from that.
2. Civic 5 speed transmission respond is still faster than Hyundai 6 speed. But I am impressed with the smoothness and logic of the Elantra 6 speed.
3. Civic handling is still better. But new Civic 1.8 still giving NCT5 tyre is a let down.
4. Civic NA engine still is more fuel efficient (in city driving only, highway is almost LPPL). This is due to able to take low viscosity oil and less internal friction (I presume) and little bit better low end torque.

Above is my sincere opinion from a few times of test drive and some research that I have done.

This post has been edited by l2k: Jul 20 2012, 12:27 PM

Civic lovers say civic looks good, Korean car lovers say otherwise. Just purchase whatever you think is good, no need to bash Korean.

Civic 9th gen looks much better with body kits I have to say, but without it, new civic is a little bit plain, especially the rear. Elantra on the other hand looks good even without any bodykit, IMHO.

jsnoway, is your FC based on computer or self calculation? Normally computer will report a little lower FC.

34k OTR with additional few thousand discount and freebies vs 136k OTR...sigh....

You can't compare like this. He is earning AUS while we are earning MYS.

Maybe the click sound it is indication of ABS starts to work. I remember I read that from some owner manual (other car). You can check your owner manual

My guess is it is performing self checking?

IMO, this new Civic only 2.0 worth to buy. 1.8L is too plain especially if compare to Korean (elantra and forte). 8th gen no auto cruise, 9th gen auto cruise is still missing... Those who opt for 1.8 is really die hard Civic fans who only look at either the H logo, or only the engine and handling.

Just comparing new Civic 1.8 vs 2.0, only 15k price difference, but you get bigger engine and loads of features. Another thing is, if you mod the car, you risk of voiding the warranty.

This post has been edited by l2k: Aug 20 2012, 12:28 PM

Guys, better be careful of what SA offers.

1st: Warranty is not given by SA, better confirm with your SC.
2nd: I am impressed with 2.0 Navi stock HU respond speed, seems like capacitive touch to me. Compare to some lousy china unit, they use much slower CPU and resistive touch.

Wow 18.6km/l = 5.38l / 100km = 43.75MPG ! You did it in a non stop condition? Means this new gen Civic can even surpass Honda claim highway 39MPG?

This post has been edited by l2k: Aug 23 2012, 06:48 PM

I am not sure how Honda come out with the 39MPG, whether the way they test is it the same with other manufacture?

iq_myst is right, lower speed does not mean better MPG, but I know 80kmh - 100kmh is the most efficient speed.

Another thing is, it is always more accurate to calculate the km/l yourself rather than rely on the computer.

This post has been edited by l2k: Aug 23 2012, 09:35 PM

I heard it is really due to safety, to comply with euro standard. Autolock has possibility to mulfunction if accident happens and keep passanger from unlocking the car as I know.

None of us here has actual knowledge on the standard, you are just making a comment based on your own logic thinking.

Talking about korean car in a Civic thread will easily get attack by Civic fanboy... as always.

Agree with most of the point of zweimmk, but there are few things to consider:

1. Good sounding engine (or rev friendly engine with sharp note), but how many times are you going to rev to 6k rpm?
2. Accessories - 1.8S is seriously plain and empty..2.0 is too expensive for many peeps.
3. NVH.. Given the price, forte is quite OK. Elantra on the other hand, has very good NVH.
4. Parts life, japanese are calculative, so you always see after warranty period, parts start to fail. I am not sure if 9th gen has improved over 8th gen but I know 8th gen always suffer power steering failure, absorber gone..etc

So at the end, it is up to your choice if you are willing to spend few 10k more for the H badge, the H engine and handling.

Lastly, do you know hyundai 1.6 gamma GDI is awarded on of the ward's best engine in 2012?

http://wardsauto.com/vehicles-amp-technolo...st-engines-list

This post has been edited by l2k: Aug 29 2012, 03:29 PM

You mean 8th gen or new civic? New civic still has milo tin roof? I thought they have been working hard on sound proofing?

What is the full highway fuel consumption 110kmh for new civic? Any Penang city drive figure?

Thanks for sharing, I believe yours is 2.0 and I would say the figure is quite good for 2.0. I am also curious for 1.8 consumption figure.

This thread is dedicated for 9 gen civic but you are asking 8 gen question. 8 gen 2.0 civic is still using K series engine which is known for top end power, but not as fuel efficient as R series engine. For 8 gen 2.0, 21-23 cents per km is normal for city driving (remember measuring using cents/km is not accurate as fuel price will have fluctuation from time to time). However, I believe for 9gen 2.0, fuel consumption will be much lower for both city and highway drive. A constant 110kmh highway drive, 9gen 2.0 can achieve 16.7km/l or around 12-13cents/km with RM2.10 per litre.