Congrates on the 2.0s. I'm sure you will enjoy it. I enjoyed the test drive myself and is actually damn surprised how fast my wife booked the new Civic after dragging her feet on the forte for the whole month.

Premium conti is definitely possible if you are taking a 3 year loan for the civic now or paying it in full.

A 110k loan is still about 2.1k to pay every month for 5 years, 1.8k or so if 9 years. My relative is paying 3.4k now for a loan of 246k for 7 years... Ouch

So if you see yourself being able to put in 2.5k to 3.5k per month or put a huge downpayment. It's definitely very possible to achieve that goal 3 Years from now

But they are keeping up with tech. They are just branching off in a different direction compared to the Europeans by going electric and hybrid. IMO, superchargers and turbocharging have been around for awhile now, if they had wanted to offer it, I'm sure they could have done so long ago but they aren't, and their offerings of recent years are both standard petrol and hybrid versions.

Diesel engine isn't even an option in many parts of the world which they sell their cars except in Europe.

Plus Cody did highlight upon one fact, both Hyundai and KIA are carried by government linked companies so who knows what sort of benefits they have when their cars are assembled and imported here? Not sure if UMW is the same, but it probably has some government links as well.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jul 19 2012, 11:34 AM

Just plan out your finances first la!

a. What's the maximum amount you can pay per month and for how many years?
b. Have you let a 2nd hand dealer take a look at your car to determine how much you can sell it for if its trade it?
c. If you're not trading in your car, how much do you think you can sell your car for online or to another potential buyer?
d. if B and C are both not options you are pursuing then what's the maximum down payment you are able to put down?

Finally:

Have you actually test drive both cars yet?

The Teana is a bigger car no doubt, but the 2.0L base model is just that, basic. You'd have to fork out a LOT more for the 2.5V in order for it to be on par in specs with the 2.0s Civic. What is it that you're looking for in a car? What's your priority and then compare and you have your answer.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jul 20 2012, 12:37 PM

Bro, you've got nothing to worry about, I've tested both the Forte 1.6SX and the Civic 2.0S

1. The Civic engine still feels more refined, the engine builds power smoothly and it is less harsh compared to the Forte's engine. The firewall on the Forte needs more improvement as well, I can actually hear the harshness of the engine at high revs and it can get a little uncomfortable.

2. The 6 speed transmission on the Forte does an adequate job but gear transitioning feels a little better on the Civic's 5 speeder

3. Both cars are plasticky on the inside

4. Sound insulation is slightly better on Civic compared to the Forte. They both aren't great but if you were to spend money to improve the car's quietness, then the Civic will cost slightly less

5. Rear space is adequate for both cars, my wife reported no issues.

6. The Forte is very well equipped for the asking price. It's really got a lot of toys and features. The only thing to do is to upgrade the lights to HID and you're done. Even the Forte 2.0SX has 2 more airbags compared to the Civic 2.0S, simply fantastic value.

If you haven't noticed already, Japanese manufacturers are moving towards electric and hybrid. The Civic is just another casualty of this green environment and Eco movement. It's going to continue this way for years to come so deal with it

Had a dealer appraise the 07 city and can get 45k. Loan still pending bank approval now as docs only submitted on Thursday. SA told us if want the car fast just switch to white as it is ex-stock but going to stick to silver coz less hassle in cleaning. Arrival expected end of this month but may delay taking the car until 2nd week of August because of loan payment dates.

The unit tested was a non navi 2.0s, if not mistaken, all civics now SOHC. Personally, I think it's good enough for all intents and purposes

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Added on July 22, 2012, 8:38 amActually I already know coz my bro in law works as a supplier for Honda as well. They supply the gasket and oil filters. Anyway, The trend will continue this way for years to come with more hybrid options.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jul 22 2012, 08:38 AM

Relax, it happened to me as well before I got my Passat.

I suspect either JPJ system really down or the SA/runner dropped the ball. Anyway, it should not take more than 1 day to get your car registeration to link into the JPJ system. 2 is really the max.

If the car is already in showroom, then tomorrow actually can get car if the car is linked into JPJ because the PDI only takes like an hour at the most (probably more like 15 mins can already). If the SA get the runner to submit whatever documents today and if system not down, sure can get car tomorrow.

Haha, sounds good. My wife's side got some hiccups with the loan application. It's even starting to piss me off right now that I told her, if today cannot the loan resolved then fxxx the bank and just apply to the bank I'm using now.

Who knows? Maybe the loan officer is incompetent, we'll never really know the real reason. One stupid loan also can drag nearly a week, ask this and ask that, submit this and submit that until now also cannot approve yet.

The loan that I took for my car is complete opposite - morning submit all required documents, evening approve already.

Ya he's yanking your horn. Dafuq man, kastam duties on a locally assembled car? LOL! Next he'll tell you parts are missing so need to wait for shipment from Japan to arrive

Btw, if you guys are doing 3M tint, you should get a e-warranty approximately 2 to 3 weeks after your tint has been done at a 3M authorized applicator in your email. It should look exactly like below. There is no hard copy unless you print it yourself so your only other proof before this is to keep the official receipt given by the authorized 3M applicator




This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 1 2012, 09:27 AM

Your HM is a smart woman. Top class car when everything is in order but still let down by really 3rd world service. And French reliability... too many issues you can read online by just looking around. If you young and no family yet, it might be worth considering even with all the potential issues attached, otherwise, I'd say just save yourself some potential pain and suffering.

Did you do yours at an authorized 3M applicator? Check your receipt and then match with the link below

http://solutions.3m.com.my/wps/portal/3M/e...me/Contact/WTB/

Only those listed in the page above are authorized 3M applicators, if you do it elsewhere, no guarantees at all.

5 years down the road, you will never be able to sell your car for RM120k, no way no how. I know for a fact that a 2007 Camry will only sell about 110k or so to 2nd hand dealers and what more it's a 2.4V, originally bought for 162k new. If you sell on Mudah, maybe can get la, but bear in mind that's a 4 year car full spec car.

2.0G Camry maybe at most fetch also about 95k to 105k in 5 years time, if you sell when people also selling current gen Camry, you take another hit in the RSV.

The current KIA Optima, who knows how much it will sell in 5 years time, but I don't think it will be too bad like the old KIAs, but only time will tell.

2300? That's too expensive friend.

You can get 3M for much less

Good choice.

Whether or not it was my old altis or my current ride, both also got UV cut glass and without tint, parking under the sun, it's still very hot. The only effective method when parking under the sun is to have your glass tinted with a good solar rejection film.

But remember, heat will still build up in the car if you park under the sun for a few hours, the difference is the heat will disperse much faster with tinting vs without tinting.

So cheap? Looks too good to be true, you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

1. Need or not?
2. I'm using 3M, very happy with it so far. Tough to pass through Smart-tag, but I'm okay with that, just wind down windows only. I used vkool elite before in my old car, very good also but also have Smart-tag issue. Ecotint ain't bad either. I dunno about Huper Optik.

If you do 3M, make sure it is done at authorized 3M film applicator, you can google 3M malaysia facebook page for more info on where to do it.