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post May 11 2012, 02:12 PM

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Hi Guys,

Need your advice and guidance.
Just got a Forte 1.6 SX White a few month back.

The issue :
Air cond slow to cold after parking under sun without shade for about 30mins to 45 mins. It would take about 10 - 20mins for the air from the air cond to be cold. The ambient temp showing is 34 - 38 degc.
By the time cold air comes out of the vent me and my passengers would be sweating. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Inquiry :
How about other owners? Do you face the same problem or mine is an isolated issue?
Comparing to my other car Proton saga the air cond will be cold instantly.
Is there any solutions?

Thanks.
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post May 11 2012, 05:23 PM

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Bros thanks for reply.

QUOTE(Motorman @ May 11 2012, 03:06 PM)
A good tint will certainly help.  thumbup.gif
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Tinted second day get car because very hot. laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(tplcaik @ May 11 2012, 03:35 PM)
proton air con is the cold 1. So dont compare with proton. Is true!
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QUOTE(epo @ May 11 2012, 03:57 PM)
normally i start engine & turn on ekon & open the both front windows half...
then i lepak hisap rokok with friends dulu... once finished, baru get-in...
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thumbup.gif I will keep that in mind.

So no solutions? Been lurking in ceratosg forum seems need to do insulation on air cond cold pipe?
Anyone did?
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post May 12 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Kenshiro84 @ May 11 2012, 09:35 PM)
Hi all the Master of Forte here,

Just wanted to ask, if lets say once I collect my car, is ok if I straight drive for a long distance like from batu pahat to Ipoh ? And what happen if I exceeded the 1k for the service like example exceeded till 1.5k or 1.6k, is that ok ??? Help !!! rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif
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It is better to send service before 2k and make sure you ask sc to check alignment and door closing.

QUOTE(scorpiok @ May 11 2012, 11:35 PM)
how about if i only 500km and found there is some problem with my car. for example alignment.
should i send to SC directly or wait 1000km service 1st?
if i go before 1000km, any charges?
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You can send, later service at 10500. Check alignment and closing of door.

This post has been edited by whtrader: May 12 2012, 08:53 AM
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post May 13 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(CKH2012 @ May 12 2012, 08:48 PM)
Did the insulation at the pipes myself, normally i set at 23 to 24 deg c even during hot afternoon and it is cold enuf with 4 passengers inside. Checked the cabin temperature b4 and after, just 1 deg c lower.

Hi Randeron,
No experience with raytech, my previous car use 3M (sorry can't remember the grade), is decent enough, and i got warranty for 7 years, after 7 years, it really started to peel off at the front windscree, other sides still OK.
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Hi Bro, 23 to 24 deg? ohmy.gif How is that possible? Mine need to set 18? If not it will be hot even under normal weather. sweat.gif
By the way can share some pictures here of the installation. nod.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(izputra @ May 13 2012, 11:17 AM)
I believe something is not right..it should not take that long (10-20 minutes) for the air blowed  from the aircond vents to be cold. Kindly make a complain to the SC. In less than half a minute, the air blowed from the aircond vents should feel cold already..but of course it needs several minutes to cool down the entire cabin. Anyway, a good tint surely helps to cool the cabin faster.
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Hi Bro, not sure what is wrong but sometimes during hot weather about 34 - 35 deg the air cond air seem to be not that cold. I will make another complain.

QUOTE(bornwilder @ May 13 2012, 03:16 PM)
agreed! something is not right. I too am experiencing the same kinda problem. my car is less than 1 month old, but it was not like this before, so after asking around i have been told some forte's do have ac problems. the problem is due to the compressor. so i am planning to go ask my sc to change it for me already, i dont know about others but a/c is quite a big part of car's comfort to me. with a malfunctioning a/c i really get damn pissed at the car.
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Hi Bro, Can pm more about the compressor prob and how are you going to ask the Sc to change?
Yeah when the air cond is not cold for about 5-10 minutes you start to get unhappy. Need to be moving that long only will cabin cold but then sometimes the air coming out is not 18 degs. Even my passengers start to complain. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post May 16 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ May 14 2012, 09:25 AM)
Did u install a good tint films at all windows & windshields? Usually when i drive alone on a hot day, i set the temp to 25-26 deg will do. If got passengers, i usually set the temp to 23-25 deg..24 deg is cool enough already. But of course, i've installed a good solar & security tint film which prevent most of the sun heat from penetrating into the cabin ..& i also did the aircond pipe insulation (DIY) that might also helps  rolleyes.gif
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Hi Bro, thanks for reply. Solved.

QUOTE(CKH2012 @ May 14 2012, 10:03 AM)
Yeap, it is tinted. as you said, 23 - 24 is sufficient.
I think there is some problem whtrader's AC.  Even my 12 years old iswara (AC, all original, no more tinted, peel off) does not take 20 minutes to cool.
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Hi Bro, thanks for reply. Solved.

QUOTE(CKH2012 @ May 14 2012, 10:11 AM)

Hi Bro, 23 to 24 deg? ohmy.gif  How is that possible? Mine need to set 18? If not it will be hot even under normal weather. sweat.gif
By the way can share some pictures here of the installation.  nod.gif  notworthy.gif

Will try to take some photo in the weekend, currently car is not with me......is very simple only, if not mistaken, you can find some info in internet.
i) u just need to find those insulation hose (those similar in your house air con),
ii)locate the cold part of the AC pipes (u can feel with your hand after u run your aircond). Warning, do not touch directly with your hand as there are a few pipes which are hot (also, do not insulate these pipes). Just feel by putting your hands near it, or if you have those temperature gun, it is helpful. Another helpful tip is, those cold pipes will have some water condensation on it.
iii)wrap it and tie with cable tie,etc...........

There are some insulation that comes with adhesive, but it can be very messy after that.
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Hi Bro, thanks for reply. Solved.

Updates on my aircond. Solved.
How it was solved?

After speaking to my trusty old air cond service friend he commend me to remove the cabin air filter and test.
Upon removing the air filter the problem seems to be solved. The air coming out of the vent is much cooler and stronger.
During hot day it cooled faster too. In a sense the air filter is limiting the air flow to the cabin hence delaying the cooling effect.
And by the way it was install upside down and choked with dust. doh.gif .

Also changing the aircond setting from 18 deg c to 22/24 deg c might have helped. Not sure about this. But will continue to monitor.

Thanks for all the support and advice. notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

Now I will install the cooling pipe insulation. nod.gif

This post has been edited by whtrader: May 16 2012, 07:14 PM
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post May 17 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(anarchy04 @ May 16 2012, 09:30 PM)
quite effective solution i think..but the evaporator might collects dust after some time, hence reduce cooling effect? need to go air cond service shop more frequent to clean up the evaporator fins....
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QUOTE(tplcaik @ May 17 2012, 05:09 PM)
Remove the filter will cause compressor more dusty and jam faster pr not?
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Thanks for reply.
Bros i did that for trouble shooting purpose. rclxms.gif I have reinstall the filter the correct way and change setting to 23/24 deg. Everything seem to be ok right now. My friend recommends to get mesh wired filter as oppose to our stock filter but see how it goes first.

QUOTE(CKH2012 @ May 17 2012, 08:57 AM)
other than going to A/C service shop (for those things cannot DIY), the cabin filter can be cleaned by our ownself on regular basis.
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Thanks for reply.
Yes i will be cleaning it frequently from now on and check if it is correctly installed.

Question : When do we need to clean our air cond fins? brows.gif


Tips: The arrow of our air cabin filter must face down towards the blower not up. If you do that, reduction of air flow will happen. shocking.gif

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