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post Feb 5 2012, 12:26 AM

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Help.

Today i am doing my first 1000km Service and Alignment at Glenmare. The technician checked and told me that my front left type was eaten due to pull left problem and suggest me to switch the front tyre with back tyre, no balancing is required as informed by him.

Below is the differences before and after the alignment:-

Before:
Steering was hard to and required more energy to turn but very stable.

After:
Steering was very loose and required more energy to turn/steer for same corner (about 360deg for U-Turn), steering not stable especially when hinter the uneven road, steering will vibrate. And steering will not auto turn back to original position after turning.

Do any fortezen here faced this before and is this normal? Help please !!!

BTW, any branch/ dealer open on Sunday near PJ area?
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post Feb 5 2012, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 5 2012, 12:32 AM)
u mean the new glenmarie 3s centre? by right even switch shouldnt have this kind of issue...weird
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That's true, i am in panic condition now. BTW, do you any idea which SC near PJ area is Open on Sunday. I can't wait till Wednesday.


Added on February 5, 2012, 12:37 am
QUOTE(suai @ Feb 5 2012, 12:36 AM)
That's true, i am in panic condition now. BTW, do you any idea which SC near PJ area is Open on Sunday. I can't wait till Wednesday.
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The technician is doing alignment as well, maybe problem on alignment. Now my steering can't turn back to neutral/ original position after steer.

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post Feb 5 2012, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 5 2012, 12:41 AM)
you should have drove back to the SC immediately when u noticed something weird with ur car..not sure which SC got open on sunday, your other alternative is to go to those 3rd party workshop but be careful make sure they dont potong u (charge u sky high)..find one u can trust or ask around
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The Glenmarie branch open on Morning only while i am getting my car about 1.30pm.
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post Feb 5 2012, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 5 2012, 12:57 AM)
Did they show u the front left tire tread ?
I think none but u can go to nazakia website and call the SC one by one.
But I believe u can re-check & re-alignment at any trusted outside shop.
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NO. They didn't show me the tire tread.


3rd Party Shop? Warranty won't void? And are they capability to to Forte's alignment? As i know, they need to reset something related to ESC / ETS after alignment? Money i don't mind to pay as long as my car back to normal.

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post Feb 5 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 5 2012, 02:06 PM)
They charged it exp, RM120 for the both nuts. Never bother to install it.
U can't find it at parts shop coz the nuts are different.
Mine just do a normal balancing, set toe to 0, camber still factory settings which is -1.8 for both sides. Will reduce the -ve later when buy a new tyres...
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Where you did the balancing and alignment?
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post Feb 6 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 5 2012, 11:37 PM)
DTM auto sg buloh... actually dun like the shop attitude there (the boss look like dun want to layan but the kuli very friendly) but dun have many choices here... lazy to travel far2 away...
i like my previous shop at gombak where i stay there 8 years ago... so have u tried raydiance...?
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not yet. It is quite expensive some more not guarantee can work. I am planning to go NSS at glenmarie to do alignment + balancing which is cheaper. If really not work then i only consider other shop. How do you think?


Added on February 6, 2012, 7:32 pm
QUOTE(suai @ Feb 5 2012, 12:26 AM)
Help.

Today i am doing my first 1000km Service and Alignment at Glenmare. The technician checked and told me that my front left type was eaten due to pull left problem and suggest me to switch the front tyre with back tyre, no balancing is required as informed by him.

Below is the differences before and after the alignment:-

Before:
Steering was hard to and required more energy to turn but very stable.

After:
Steering was very loose and required more energy to turn/steer for same corner (about 360deg for U-Turn), steering not stable especially when hinter the uneven road, steering will vibrate. And steering will not auto turn back to original position after turning.

Do any fortezen here faced this before and is this normal? Help please !!!

BTW, any branch/ dealer open on Sunday near PJ area?
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I found the solution already, i did my alignment again at 3rd party shop and he told me the alignment is run so much although the SC said ok. I think most likely the machine at Glenmarie SC is not proper calibrated.

Now my car felt better but still not so stable when running at uneven road although is at low speed. Going to do my balancing and alignment again at NSS SC on Wednesday.

And, for all Fortezen, please avoid to do your alignment at Glenmarie SC.

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post Feb 6 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 6 2012, 09:06 PM)
nss as i recall dont do alignment...u can try call them up to confirm
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I call them before, they said got.... Will call again on Wednesday. Do you have any suggestion which SC is good for alignment and balancing? PJ SC is moving to the new shop near fedaral hence temporary off for alignment service. Puchong service good?
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post Feb 6 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 6 2012, 09:56 PM)
you're referring to nss glenmarie rite? i dun recall they have alignment machine cos my friend went there last year told me they dun have...unless they recently bought the machine..
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Yes NSS Glenmarie. Will check it out..
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post Feb 6 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 6 2012, 10:26 PM)
u still didn't check ur absorber as per what i remind u... go to selayang or kinrara SC, they have the machine...
both tires should have equal pressure, mine never pump right tire lower than left... 32 psi is acceptable...
aisey gps coordinate bro...  notworthy.gif
i'm still doubt that kia SC is good in doing an alignment... even suai's case showing that SC didn't do it properly...
why dun u try CKL shop that has been proposed by gregy...
at least someone has tried it... a bit waste of time to go to SC juz bcoz of alignment only coz they're slow...
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http://www.limtayar.com.my/html/our_outlets.html

for CKL


Added on February 6, 2012, 10:41 pm
QUOTE(epo @ Feb 6 2012, 10:26 PM)
u still didn't check ur absorber as per what i remind u... go to selayang or kinrara SC, they have the machine...
both tires should have equal pressure, mine never pump right tire lower than left... 32 psi is acceptable...
aisey gps coordinate bro...  notworthy.gif
i'm still doubt that kia SC is good in doing an alignment... even suai's case showing that SC didn't do it properly...
why dun u try CKL shop that has been proposed by gregy...
at least someone has tried it... a bit waste of time to go to SC juz bcoz of alignment only coz they're slow...
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Your suggestion is CKL or Raydiance? Both is nearby only.


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post Feb 6 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 6 2012, 10:56 PM)
this one...?
Subang Jaya
Lot PT 2092, Jalan Tujuan,
Subang Jaya 47500, Selangor.
Phone : 03-5636 5128
Fax : 03-5636 1798

i never tried both but both has been tried by our owners... imho, i prefer CKL since they changed 1 camber nut only...
raydiance changes 2 nuts... dunno why...
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Is chamber nut must changed in order to solve alignment problem? I need to tell them to change it or they will check and advise me?
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post Feb 7 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(invinciblezero @ Feb 7 2012, 02:16 AM)
I can hear rattling sound from my driver's side door. Anyone have this problem and which SC u went to rectify it? Seems like there is another place of the sound coming, not sure if it's the dashboard or the pessanger's door

REALLY irritating me!!!
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Yes, i hear some very small but high frequency sound from my right ear during driving, think the sound is from right door/ seat belt holder there. Looking for solution as well.


Added on February 7, 2012, 9:07 pm
QUOTE(invinciblezero @ Feb 7 2012, 06:59 PM)
Kinrara SC is it the 1 opposite Puchong neway??
The one just beside the road heading to Sunway toll
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Nope, the one nearby Sunway Tol is only sales center, you need to go further straight to Bukit Jalil direction and you will see the KIA SC on you right hand side after Shell Station.

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post Feb 7 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(tantw @ Feb 7 2012, 04:46 PM)
Note: AZ World (Serdang Raya) wasn't Naza service branch, but Naza authorized service dealer. I do not see my car in the service workshop while the front desk person received the call from technician to ask me if I wish to install the camber bolt. I assume they do not have such facilities in their workshop and they just drive my car to near by tyre shop for fixing. Any way, the end results is much better than the official Naza service branch in Puchong that I mentioned before.
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In this case i would suggest Fortezen not to go Naza Branch nor Authorized Dealer for Alignment. Third party shop such as CKL or Raydiance would be much better as discussed in previous page.


Added on February 7, 2012, 9:14 pm
QUOTE(craxors @ Feb 7 2012, 09:10 PM)
one my 1st service, mention this to the tech guy...he said many cases; the sound is from the seat belt.
they already done many cases for this issue.
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Are they able to solve it? May i know which SC did you go?

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post Feb 9 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 9 2012, 10:01 PM)
Safety features maybe...
Like using lower gears during driving down the hill...
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Optional is to use Paddle Shift brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post May 6 2012, 08:48 AM

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Some question here.

Forte come with immobilized system, so does the installation of "locktech" help further to prevent car been stolen?
And can the car move without key inside?
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post May 6 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ May 6 2012, 08:59 AM)
Well it doesn't prevent 100% but it'll buy some time. If the thieves wants to steal your car - nothing can stop them actually. On the other question - the car won't drive without the keyfob or remote inside BUT if your engine is already started and you take away the keyfob while the engine is running, the car can still drive but you will hear an annoying beep (not sure how long that will go on) but its still driveable if the engine is already started and the remote is taken away. And this is for the SX model, for the EX model since it is using the traditional ignition key, it won't behave this way (it behaves just like every other car with ignition)
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I see. Because sometimes i am leaving the car for quick buy but i didnt cut off the engine. Was wondering whether the car still can move but never try it, scare for somethings bad happen.

BTW, i was read some posts regarding K&N filter which are able to increase horse power, was it true? how its work? where can get it? when is the right time to install it? and how much it cost?

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post May 6 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(izputra @ May 6 2012, 10:02 AM)
For quick buy (with the engine is still on)..just go out from the car & use your pull-out manual key to lock the driver's door (turn the key clockwise)..that will do to lock the car. Use back the manual key to unlock the car (turn the key anti-clockwise) when u finish buying...
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so troublesome? my key is with leader holder. i rather turn off the engine then.


Added on May 6, 2012, 10:15 amAfter some searched from the internet. There are 3 types of air filter which is common, i.e. K&N, simota and UTR. UTR come with metal type. No idea which one is the best. K&N looked like more popular.

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post May 6 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(izputra @ May 6 2012, 10:20 AM)
Yupp..that's the way it is. It will be useful when u wanna do quick buy while leaving your wife/children/pasenggers in the car especially under a hot sun  tongue.gif

It's not too troublesome for me..but anyway i wish that we can use the lock/unlock button on the smartkey instead coz it's easier that way. I guess there's justifications why Kia design it that way..
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Agree with you. Or we can ask the passenger to lock the car as well when you are out for somethings.
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post May 6 2012, 09:03 PM

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Hmm, so anyone have any idea which filter is good? Simota, K&N or UTR? Thinking to grab one.


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:05 pmJust broke my record for the fastest speed today. 160km/hr....


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:10 pm
QUOTE(Kakashinn @ May 6 2012, 06:20 PM)
hey guys, just got my forte yesterday...all is well when i received the car n tested it all, but when at night..the reverse camera is not working, and the green led is blinking..then this morning everything is back to normal.

is the green led supposed to be permanently on or keep blinking coz i never really noticed it until yday? less than 24 hour old only like this d  hmm.gif
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Common defect where some ppl claimed that due to wire loose.


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:12 pm
QUOTE(yyyeeeaaayyyy @ May 6 2012, 07:31 PM)
hi. asking opinions from all the sifus here.

between the 1.6 EX and 1.6 SX, which one worth buying? what are the differences between these two?

p/s: if there's any forte salesperson here, can u pm me the details on both models as in monthly payments, warranty, goodies etc..

thinking of getting this car..
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Better think about getting 1.6 sx or 2.0 sx. Just forget about Ex.

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post May 6 2012, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(fourteh @ May 6 2012, 09:29 PM)
Hi, I posted on K&N a few pages back but no harm repeating for bros sake. I am driving 1.6SX for 9 months & always feel frustrated by lack of ommph tho I could not afford 2.0 at that time. Anyway, I bought a K&N drop in filter & it has really made a difference to low end torque. No more sluggish feeling. You can get it from lowyat Automotive Garage, look for speedworksonline, great seller. Price between 200 ~ 300 but definitely worth your investment. After all, its only 0.2% of your car price.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for your suggestion. BTW, i got some info from K&N website that you will require to re-oil it after 50000km. So i am thinking whether UTR metal filter is better with almost maintenance free except wash.


Added on May 6, 2012, 10:13 pmWhat about www.kaitospeed.com, speedworks's competitor. One claimed that the other is not original but the other defend strongly.

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post May 6 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(fourteh @ May 6 2012, 09:29 PM)
Hi, I posted on K&N a few pages back but no harm repeating for bros sake. I am driving 1.6SX for 9 months & always feel frustrated by lack of ommph tho I could not afford 2.0 at that time. Anyway, I bought a K&N drop in filter & it has really made a difference to low end torque. No more sluggish feeling. You can get it from lowyat Automotive Garage, look for speedworksonline, great seller. Price between 200 ~ 300 but definitely worth your investment. After all, its only 0.2% of your car price.  biggrin.gif
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How much you get from SpeedWorks last time?


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