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Optimus2810
post Mar 24 2012, 01:16 PM

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Hey Guys, a new comer here from outer space.

Sorry to side track a bit. Ever since I have my test drive with Forte 2.0 , 6 speed, I have irresistibly fallen in love with this baby on earth.

But to my surprise, the SA told me that this model DO NOT have Ebony Black anymore. All the Forte Taikos here, is it true that NAZA stop assembling Ebony Black Model ? ? ? Why then ? Black can't sell ? Any Taiko here with an Ebony Black Forte 2.0 , 6 speed ?
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post Mar 25 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(flawracle @ Mar 24 2012, 11:11 PM)
I guess so. when i place order for 1.6SX last week, SA told me that only Bright silver, Titanium Silver and white color available on all trims of forte. Kinda bumped, coz i really like Metal Broze. the test drive unit is on that color though~  cry.gif
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Just the opposite, the SA here recommended Metal Bronze to me. They got 4 ~ 5 units of ex-stock here. BTW, the most popular colour I think is the Clear White. More than 50% of the Forte I noticed on the road are White in colour. But I really love Black. Kinda like invisible at night. I have made up my mind; going to order a 2.0L SX next month. Hopefully they manage to find me one Black Baby.
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post Mar 25 2012, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(gigohlo @ Mar 25 2012, 01:10 PM)
Good luck on that lolx. From what I heard from my sales lady, now only got 3 colours - Titanium Grey, Clear White and Silver. This is because the other colours not so "hot", thats why they don't produce anymore. I tried to ask for black too, but my sales lady told me impossible unless I go respray when the car comes in  icon_question.gif
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Really ? cry.gif
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post Mar 25 2012, 07:05 PM

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Yes, I got the new standard features (GPS + Bodykit) for the same price (RM97800 for 2.0L SX) from the SA last week.

A discount of RM1500 if taking the old model.

GPS + Bodykit RM1500 ? Expensive ?
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post Mar 26 2012, 10:24 PM

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I think 2.0L get better FC than 1.6L, since the body weight is ard 1300kg. Right ?
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post Mar 27 2012, 11:34 AM

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Ya, I too wanna know what's the best additional protection for the Forte ? Since I am gonna get my new baby very soon !
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post Mar 27 2012, 04:13 PM

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Hey all the forte owners here, Anybody know what is the compression ratio for the Forte 2.0L engine ? Any problem with Ron95 ?
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post Mar 27 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Mar 27 2012, 04:31 PM)
Simple googling reveals this details : http://bellamykia.autotrader.ca/new/Kia/20...5d80bf14b6.htm#

Some 2.0 Forte owners experienced light engine knocking (use RON95), but for my car, there's none (also use RON95 by Petronas)..except just after a cold start..i could barely heard that for about a minute & then the knocking sounds disappeared. I guess it's not a problem whatsoever...
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Engine Knocking (also called Detonation, Pinging or Pinking) normally happens to high Compression ( > 10:1) Gasoline (Petrol) Internal-Combustion Engine when the peak of the combustion process no longer occurs at the optimum moment for the four-stroke cycle, and causing a characteristic metallic "pinging" sound. Effects of engine knocking range from inconsequential to completely destructive. I think that is why 2.0L is more likely to experience Knocking than 1.6L due to the higher Compression Ratio (Can somebody confirm this ???)

Recent technology with Variable Valve Timing (VVT) and Knock Sensors did help to delay ignition timing and hence aids in reducing the Knocking Effect even for higher Compression Ratio Engine ( >11.1). I know Forte 2.0L equipped with CVVT but dose it also equipped with Knock Sensors ??

Another method to prevent engine knocking is to use of a fuel with high octane rating, which increases the combustion temperature of the fuel and reduces the proclivity to detonate. Now as the name suggested, Research Octane Number (RON)95 has lower octane rating than RON97, thats why using RON95 is more likely to experience Knocking Effect than using RON97. But the problem is .....pricing !!!

BTW, after such a long bla bla bla .... Can any one tell the Compression Ratio of the Forte's 2.0 DOHC MPI CVVT THETA II Engine ???

Reference Sources :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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post Mar 28 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Mar 28 2012, 07:06 AM)
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It is stated in the Kia's website. All three has 11 compression ratio (which I just realised this, has higher ratio than an Civic, even an Accord  sweat.gif ). I am

considering on buying my next car, but still considering on the budget for RON97 fuel  sweat.gif
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I got it : http://www.kiamedia.com/secure/PDFs/forte2011-specs.pdf

The Compression Ratio is 10.5:1 . hmm.gif EM . . . I think should be ok to use RON95 ( although the best is <10:1 ). Anyone have better comment on this ? EM .. RON95 for Kia Forte 2.0L ... can be a new thread I think .. Ha Ha
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post Mar 28 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Mar 28 2012, 01:11 PM)
Been using RON 95 on my 2.0 FL since Day 1. My car just celebrated her 1st BD. No problems with knocking. Nowadays it is hard to find a car without a knock sensor anyways...

The biggest problem with using a low RON fuel is the loss of power, especially during hot afternoons or if the engine is clogged and not in tip top shape. Knocking can be induced not only due to compression ratio but external factors like underhood temperatures, air density and engine efficiency among others. If you find that your car is sluggish during afternoon runs and appreciably more powerful at night, that means your ECU is holding back the engine in the afternoon to keep temps in check and to prevent knocking. Changing up to a higher RON fuel will lessen the impact.

Here's how the knock sensor works. It is supposed to measure and detect imminent pre=detonation before it happens, and sends the data to the on-board ECU. The ignition timing advance on modern cars with EFI is fully regulated by the ECU and operates on a closed loop system, relying on data from various sensors from the intake all the way to the exhaust.

Ignition advance is dynamically controlled based on throttle input, IOW as you step on the pedal, as the revs climb the ignition is advanced more and more to compensate for the faster cycle between intake and exhaust strokes. The CVVT system works in conjunction with ignition advance to deliver optimum fuel mixture on demand. Unless the knock sensor is damaged, there is no reason why RON 95 cannot be used in a high compression modern engine with fully controlled engine management (knock sensor and CVVT).

Having said that, knock sensors do have a pre-set tolerance, i.e., if you use a fuel that has a very low RON rating like 88 (example), then knocking could still happen as the engine and ECU were not designed to operate below a certain threshold.

But to sum it all up, I believe there is no harm in using RON95 in the Forte.

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Thanks for the Info Bro. It really eases my concern about the issue of RON95 for Kia Forte.
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post Mar 28 2012, 04:54 PM

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Just came across this site. Good to gain some knowledge about safety features.

https://sites.google.com/site/nazakiaforte/...safety-features
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post Mar 29 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(jorrne00 @ Mar 29 2012, 12:12 PM)
would like to know how much I need to pay for the 1st service? How long should I wait? Need to change oil? dunno what is that
Kia forte SX - 980km currently
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This may help you, got it sometimes ago, don't know still valid or not.

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post Mar 29 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Mar 29 2012, 08:52 AM)
i see..
K is for King Long...not Kia...King Long is another car manufacturer... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I think there are 2 different "K" Emblems here hmm.gif : check attached : Kia-Logo-Emblem 1 & Kia-Logo-Emblem 2

I would say Kia-Logo-Emblem 1 is more likely from the original Kia Logo "K" (check attached Kia Logo (Spectra)) but the Kia-Logo-Emblem 2 is more likely from King Long "K" Logo (check attached King Long Logo)

What do you guys say ? ? ?
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post Apr 1 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(flawracle @ Apr 1 2012, 04:21 PM)
My 2 day old 1.6sx can't start. basket!

I woke up today morning planning to wash the car. when arrived at door, try to open it but failed. need to use the key to open the door. 1 thing i've noticed when opening my door is that the cabin somewhat dimmer than usual. initial thought was the battery. try to push the start/stop button, nothing came up, feels like battery is weak.

It really bumps me, 2 day old cars and the battery is already weak? or perhaps something else is wrong with the car? can't fix it by today though, since all SC closed on sunday, according to the girl who answer the 24/7 emergency assistance number.

Will update tomorrow the real cause of the car breakdown.
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That's bad sad.gif . Could it be that you smart key battery is flat ?
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(flawracle @ Apr 1 2012, 10:58 PM)
That's what exactly i have did, with the help of my neighbor. power restored to the car, i guess tomorrow gonna double check with SC.
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Don't worry too much. I think everything will be ok since the power is back on nod.gif . Anyway, do keep us informed tomorrow after checking in the SC.
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post Apr 2 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(flawracle @ Apr 1 2012, 10:58 PM)
That's what exactly i have did, with the help of my neighbor. power restored to the car, i guess tomorrow gonna double check with SC.
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Hey Bro, How's your baby after checking ? What did the SC assistant said ? ?
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post Apr 2 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(gigohlo @ Apr 2 2012, 10:04 PM)
Actually don't need to manually trigger the paddle shifts. Just press the paddle shifts and your gears will change accordingly smile.gif

E.g. While at AT mode, press ( - ) paddle shift and your car will shift down 1 gear. You will notice that your dashboard will tell you what gear you're at instead of just "D". Your car will maintain in MT mode for at least 5 seconds before changing back to AT mode automatically smile.gif

I always use this technique to overtake cars instead of flooring the accelerator / changing to MT mode wink.gif
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That's Cool !!!
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post Apr 5 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Apr 5 2012, 11:59 AM)
I see u r asking this in both Elantra n Forte thread. Still deciding is it? biggrin.gif

For Forte I think you can go 2.54% wit it. My fren from HLB said can go 2.5% maybe.

For Elantra Affin bank give the same 2.46%. Maybe can go slightly lower for other bank but not much maybe another 0.01-0.02% lower only.


Added on April 5, 2012, 12:01 pm

which branch and bank gave this bro? is it for 7 yrs and forte 1.6?
cause my SA from sunway die die say 2.54% is the best.  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I just got my loan for forte 2.0 approval from PBB, 2,47%, 6 yrs.
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post Apr 19 2012, 03:21 PM

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Just got my Baby (2.0L, 6 speed, w/o HU) last week. The second day drove from BP to Melaka and back. The 3rd day from BP to JB and back. This Mon from BP to KL and back last night. I had my first service in KIA RED CUBE Service Centre at PJ.

No rattling sound on the dashboard, no side pulling of wheel etc etc that I read about on "MYFORTESUCK"



Overall, I would say the car is at its Good condition just as what I expected. I have no complaint at all.


Added on April 19, 2012, 3:38 pmOne thing I need to share with all bros here is that :

I bang my brand new BABY into someone's car backside yesterday when I came back from KL (I must be too tired). Its an old model WIRA. I still remember the heart-stopping, breath-taking sound when I bang it : Pong !

The WIRA bumper broken as usual (If you own a WIRA like I do you know what I mean) Guess what ... My BABY still in a one piece, checking through the entire front area, only notice a few scratches on the bumper and a bit drop of the front bumper (Just get it fixed this morning at the Service Centre, and guess what again . . . for FREE ! ! !)

I think KIA must have improved the bumper design a lot that it absorbs more impact force during accident.

No regret for choosing Forte instead of H's City (or else I think my car will be in the workshop now)

Its only 2 weeks plus since I got my BABY, I can't judge much on other aspects of the car, but for safety, It really surpasses my expectation.

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post Apr 19 2012, 05:14 PM

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[quote=epo,Apr 19 2012, 04:54 PM]
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keep ur nice story urself, in F&F no one will believe if it comes from kimchi owner... whistling.gif
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We do not need anyone to believe our story. This is Forte Forum so we share about Forte. If you choose not to believe so be it. They are others do consider the forte owner's feedback just like I did before I decided to buy a forte.

Also if you do not like my story please don't read it. Nobody force you to. And keep your comment to yourself if you do not like kimchi then don't come into this forum.

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