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TSWholleymolley
post Jan 29 2012, 05:16 PM, updated 14y ago

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SPRING

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SUMMER

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AUTUMN

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WINTER ( my favorite )

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If you have an interest in the full series of this work, please visit my official published work here



I would really appreciate it if you can let your thoughts be known to me in this thread after you have seen my work =)

p/s : If you are into videography, please do drop me a pm, we are interested to assemble a production team




Author's Note

This is the first time I gel my flash on outdoor shoot, the results are quite interesting =)

Please share your gelling experience with me ! I am want to learn it !

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post Jan 30 2012, 11:30 AM

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I probably should not comment...


Pics are not interesting... background not interesting and may even be distracting.

Pics do not reflect the changes in season whatsoever... neither do the backgrounds reflect anything about seasonal changes... total fail here in you asked me.

Weak composition in all pics.

Pics #3 & #6 - Blown highlights in the gown. Can't see details there.. can't even tell if the model is wearing different gowns if you don't look properly...


Lastly... model supposed to be bride but there's nothing bride-like in her expressions. I could say that the model is bordering on nonchalance in her expression...

I'm sure these comments too will fall on deaf ears... like so many before them.
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post Jan 30 2012, 02:14 PM

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what is this ?? I'm really speechless.

wb out, color out, overblown highlight , cropping out. You did it on purpose ?

The only presentable shots in term of composition is #6 despite the lack to eye contact. The rest shouldn't be posted at all as it's some typical "facebook point and shoot" quality pic that failed miserably.

come on bro, be a man go attend some photography course !

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post Jan 30 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Jan 30 2012, 02:14 PM)
what is this ?? I'm really speechless.

wb out, color out, overblown highlight , cropping out.  You did it on purpose ? 

The only presentable shots in term of composition is #6 despite the lack to eye contact.  The rest shouldn't be posted at all as it's some typical "facebook point and shoot" quality pic that failed miserably.

come on bro, be a man go attend some photography course !
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2,3,4,5,6 have inaccurate WB. Did you notice #2 where the subject is in orange whereas the BG is in blue? This is called WB inbalance and can be corrected using a colour gel..

Anyway...... http://fotop.net/dragon_baby/Agnes_Lim
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post Jan 31 2012, 08:59 AM

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#4-#6 the color balancing is atrocious. You can't say OK WINTER FEEL TIEM and just drag the temperature and saturation sliders to the left and call it a day.
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post Jan 31 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 30 2012, 11:30 AM)
I probably should not comment...
Pics are not interesting... background not interesting and may even be distracting.

Pics do not reflect the changes in season whatsoever... neither do the backgrounds reflect anything about seasonal changes... total fail here in you asked me.

Weak composition in all pics.

Pics #3 & #6 - Blown highlights in the gown. Can't see details there.. can't even tell if the model is wearing different gowns if you don't look properly...
Lastly... model supposed to be bride but there's nothing bride-like in her expressions. I could say that the model is bordering on nonchalance in her expression...

I'm sure these comments too will fall on deaf ears... like so many before them.
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Jan 30 2012, 02:14 PM)
what is this ?? I'm really speechless.

wb out, color out, overblown highlight , cropping out.  You did it on purpose ? 

The only presentable shots in term of composition is #6 despite the lack to eye contact.  The rest shouldn't be posted at all as it's some typical "facebook point and shoot" quality pic that failed miserably.

come on bro, be a man go attend some photography course !
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 31 2012, 08:59 AM)
#4-#6 the color balancing is atrocious. You can't say OK WINTER FEEL TIEM and just drag the temperature and saturation sliders to the left and call it a day.
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Haiyo, i didnt say 4 season as in 4 season of weather did I ?

This is an art series. Its metaphoric and up for interpretation.





lol ok now when I read again "OK WINTER FEEL TIEM and just drag the temperature and saturation sliders to the left and call it a day" really sounds damn funny !!! hahahahahaaaah

But no, its not about winter feel la



Its about the emotion the photos give when I lower the color temp but the subject is actually shot with Full CTO gel so the photos are diff from if I shoot without the gelled flash.

If no gel flash the photos cannot be reproduce by simply dragging temp slider. Spending hours on PP maybe can i dunno.




QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 30 2012, 02:27 PM)
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2,3,4,5,6 have inaccurate WB. Did you notice #2 where the subject is in orange whereas the BG is in blue? This is called WB inbalance and can be corrected using a colour gel..

Anyway...... http://fotop.net/dragon_baby/Agnes_Lim
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Thanks for sharing the photo, very nice =)

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OK. So it's not the normal winter, spring, summer and fall season. Could you please tell me what other 4 seasons there are? Do explain because we cannot tell from the pics.

As for emotions, as far as the model is concerned, emotion like I said earlier borders on nonchalance which means almost zero emotions. So, again, what are you trying to portray?

As for colors, well, like the others have pointed out we get the feeling that the WB is all out! If that is not your intent, then please do explain why the cool color tone?

If this is called art, then I would rather just snap using random settings at random objects, introduce motion blur and post processing in funky color tones and call it abstract. That, I think would convince more people than your series of shots here.

All that you photos give is a feeling of confusion when people look at them. They are questioning whether the shots are done correctly. Is that your aim for this series?
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QUOTE(Wholleymolley @ Jan 31 2012, 11:09 AM)
Haiyo, i didnt say 4 season as in 4 season of weather did I ?

This is an art series. Its metaphoric and up for interpretation.
lol ok now when I read again "OK WINTER FEEL TIEM and just drag the temperature and saturation sliders to the left and call it a day" really sounds damn funny !!! hahahahahaaaah

But no, its not about winter feel la
Its about the emotion the photos give when I lower the color temp but the subject is actually shot with Full CTO gel so the photos are diff from if I shoot without the gelled flash.

If no gel flash the photos cannot be reproduce by simply dragging temp slider. Spending hours on PP maybe can i dunno.
Thanks for sharing the photo, very nice =)
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What emotion you were trying to portrait then?
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post Jan 31 2012, 09:52 PM

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Looks blown out wei. Why the color of skin looks avatar.


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Forever no improvement. I prefer close up or at least background aren't distracting.
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post Feb 1 2012, 12:25 AM

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John, i give up.
best of luck in your art.
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post Feb 1 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Feb 1 2012, 12:25 AM)
John, i give up.
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ahahaha everytime i come in this showcase i just want to see how forumers trying to give advise to TS but always goes to deaf ears..
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Jan 31 2012, 09:13 PM)
What emotion you were trying to portrait then?
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If you want the model to be sad, happy, angry, it's up to your interpretation, at least that's why TS said. smile.gif

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post Feb 1 2012, 05:12 PM

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@shootkk If you may allow me to requote one of your comments here since I find it really helpful and appropriate

QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 30 2012, 02:35 PM)
All this talk about workflow and gears and prime lens and large aperture and lighting is all fine but in my humble opinion I think we missed out on one important aspect.

razuryza hinted at it but please permit me to elaborate... this is my own opinion of course.. for discussion's sake.

I think we missed out on the 'mental picture' part. I think that the senior photographer already has in his mind what image he wants from a shoot while TS does not. That makes the difference.


The model, costume, makeup, lighting and equipment can all be the same but the results differ because one KNOWS what he wants to get as a result while the other is merely mimicking.

When I take my camera out to shoot, I find that if I do not have a specific goal or theme or result I want to get, my shots all come back looking very normal and there is nothing noteworthy about them.

When I have something in my mind that I want to get, then my shots come out better. I'm no pro by any standards but this is what I have found.

If I am tired and not thinking much during a shoot, my pictures suffer. If I am fully concentrated and focused, I get better output.

Perhaps this is what TS is trying to find out. Why not try this the next time you shoot:

Focus on a theme and the result you want from that shoot. What emotions do you want to portray in your shots? Happiness? Carefree spirit? Anger? Frustration? Arrogance? Romance?

Then work with the model to get that into your shot. If you want Anger, what kind of lighting would you use? If you want to portray risk taking or carefree spirit, how would you shoot? Thoughts along those lines may help. Of course, it must blend with the fashion that is being portrayed.


Hope that helps.
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Wholley Molley,

Actually it's not that hard. If you do not really know on how to shoot a certain theme. Just copy! And by copy I mean looking up to the pictures you like online. Memorize how it is composed/framed, how the model was posed, what is in the background/foreground, lighting conditions! Nobody said this is wrong. We all learn by looking at pictures by the pros and try to emulate them. All you need is to compile all the pictures you like or that you think they're good (I humbly recommend Dragon Chow's works, ahleong or shinchan) and just print it out on papers. Bring them to your shoot and tell the model you want her posed according to paper. Frame accordingly and if done correctly, you'd get a good shot.

Alternatively, you could get those Taiwanese Model Posing books. They help in your model posing skills. Also, bring them to your shoots...

Note what shootkk mentioned about "mental picture". Visualize what you have in mind before the shoot. Just don't go into the shoot without anything planned, it'll definitely turn disastrous

My useless 2 cents

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may i know where this railway is ??

 

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