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elliot_WD
post Apr 27 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Homura15 @ Apr 26 2015, 02:00 PM)
Hi guys,

My WD 2TB is having some issues lately. When I am trying to copy some files over (PC to Harddisk), it just keep getting stuck half way.

I tried cancelling the process and ended up became not responding  sad.gif

Searching on the web on this, some say it needs to set the enable caching in Windows, but the issue still persist.

Anyone has idea how I can fix this problem?
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Hey there Homura15

Just would like to double confirm, can you copy the file to a different location (not to the external drive?)

Most likely there is a problematic file, or problematic portion of the disk that is causing this error then. Like mentioned by wildwestgoh I would suggest running a chkdsk on the machine, which might fix a problematic file issue and might be able to correct a minor disk error.
How to run Chkdsk from My Computer or from Windows Explorer
Double-click My Computer, and then right-click the hard disk that you want to check.
Click Properties, and then click Tools.
Under Error-checking, click Check Now. A dialog box that shows the Check disk options is displayed,
Use one of the following procedures:
To run Chkdsk in read-only mode, click Start.
To repair errors without scanning the volume for bad sectors, select the Automatically fix file system errors check box, and then click Start.
To repair errors, locate bad sectors, and recover readable information, select the Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors check box, and then click Start. Note If one or more of the files on the hard disk are open, you will receive the following message:
The disk check could not be performed because the disk check utility needs exclusive access to some Windows files on the disk. These files can be accessed by restarting Windows. Do you want to schedule the disk check to occur the next time you restart the computer?
Click Yes to schedule the disk check, and then restart your computer to start the disk check.
I would recommend Running it to repair errors and locate bad sectors in this case.
Hope this helps.

elliot_WD
post Apr 28 2015, 11:49 AM

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Good Day Homura15

Well If the scan is experiencing too long to recover bad sectors or not responding it means that the scan functionality is no longer applicable. In this case I'm afraid that your HDD is about to die.

The option you have now is to backup all your data from your HDD if possible to avoid any data loss, and if the HDD is still under warranty, then you can proceed to RMA it.

Here is the link for you to proceed with the RMA process:
http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=UKlBVo


Good Luck!

This post has been edited by elliot_WD: Apr 28 2015, 11:50 AM
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post Jun 5 2015, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(yuk4ming @ Jun 3 2015, 12:14 PM)
I'm not sure this is the correct thread to post this.

But I have a faulty western digital external 1tb hdd that defects on me with a RAW format, luckily i've backup the important files and would like to make a RMA for it.

But the problem is I can't create a RMA in the WD Support Portal.
It keep popping up
"An error was encountered during RMA creation."
after i select my shipment address.

Hello fellow Sifu-s, what should I do next?
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Hey there yuk4ming,

Just would like to double confirm on your issue, is your drive still under warranty??
Have you checked the warranty status in the WD website??

If so, what region or country that showed up after you have keyed in the serial number?

Never the less, you could try getting in touch with WD customer support and get your RMA process sorted out.

Here is the link for the WD customer support hotline.
http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=q0WrW4

Hope this helps.. Good luck!! icon_rolleyes.gif

elliot_WD
post Jun 5 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yuk4ming @ Jun 5 2015, 12:26 PM)
Hello elliot_WD,

Yes, my drive is still under warranty.
I've registered the drive after i purchase it and it will showed how many days left for my warranty.

I've dont know what you means about the keyed serial number?
For RMA, i just select the drive i want to RMA and select the reason and shipment address, there not involve of key-in serial number.
For registration product, I've dont remember it has showed the region or country before, but I'm a Malaysian and purchase the drive in M'sia also.

And I've try to send the email to the wd support through the portal but it also showed the error i've meet when sending RMA.

I'll try to call the support and will like  you to guide me further more at here also.

Thanks and hope to hear from your reply soon.
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Hello yuk4ming,

Well what I meant by keying in the serial number is actually one way to check on your HDD warranty status through the website.

Since you mentioned that you have already registered the product, then your product's warranty information would appear in your account so there is no issues with that.

The best way for now I would suggest that you get in touch with the customer support and get the RMA process sorted out.

Just keep me updated once you have done with the call to the customer support alright.

Good luck!
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post Jul 23 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jul 21 2015, 09:26 PM)
Everyone mention WD Green having a lot of failure

So guys,  if for storage , which model or brand to buy ? it's like seagate failure , WD failure but all and most shop selling only this 2 brand or failure brand.
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Hey there Maxieos

Everyone usage on storage device is pretty much different. It depends on how well you take care of it or organize your partition in a correct order. In fact every drive will fail eventually, it all depends on how you take care of them

Just a reminder, even if you have a drive solely for storage, it's always not safe as well. Its best that you always remember to have backup your important files at all time to avoid any system crash, virus or even sometimes natural disaster’s.


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post Jul 23 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jul 21 2015, 09:28 PM)
which one to choose ?
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Try getting drives that offer the best combination of reliability, low-price and performance at a given storage capacity point. More higher performance than the value-only recommendations, usually at a slightly higher price.

Just a thought of sharing, hope you find this useful. icon_rolleyes.gif
elliot_WD
post Jul 29 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jul 25 2015, 06:43 PM)
elliot_WD Normally just for external usage plugin to a media player.
I dont how you count by taking care.

If hard disk use for storage like copy file into hard disk once a week 1GB , then put into the cupboard.Looping just like this for backup ?

consider take care ? time on maybe 1-4 hours for a month ?
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Hey there Maxieos

If you going to do that way, then I presume it shouldn't be any problem.

Just be sure that you always get an extra 1 to have your backup’s just in case. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 3 2015, 03:26 PM

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Well the WD Black drives are considered the performance line and have a few features that the WD Blue drives don't have, but there is not much difference in real world speed. They are both 7200RPM drives. The WD Blacks drives have a better warranty though. 5 years vs 2 years on the WD Blue drives.

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post Aug 6 2015, 03:04 PM

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Hey there Maxieos,

Just would like to share to you in regards to changing the RPM in a drive.

Changing the actual RPM is not possible. Modern drive heads float over the surface of the disk and do all of their work without ever physically touching the platters, they are magnetizing. The amount of space between the heads and the platters is called the floating height or flying height. It is also sometimes called the head gap, and some hard disk manufacturers refer to the heads as riding on an "air bearing". The read/write head assemblies are spring-loaded--using the spring steel of the head arms--which causes the sliders to press against the platters when the disk is stationary. (This is done to ensure that the heads don't drift away from the platters; maintaining an exact floating height is essential for correct operation.) When the disk spins up to operating speed, the high speed causes air to flow under the sliders and lift them off the surface of the disk--the same principle of lift that operates on aircraft wings and enables them to fly.

The distance from the platters to the heads is a specific design parameter that is tightly controlled by the engineers that create the drive. By adjusting the strength of the springs to match the other drive parameters (such as the speed the disks are spinning and the size and shape of the heads) the float height can be precisely maintained.

I think it would be safe to assume that changing the speed of rotation of the platter, would also affect the amount of lift created and would either cause the heads to float to high, to the point where it could not read from the disk, or too low and could cause a head crash.

If let say you are using Linux system, have a look at hdparm utility. Unfortunately, it doesn't allow you change HDD RPM but it allows you change some low-level performance options. Be careful, some options could be dangerous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdparm

Just a thought of sharing, hope you find this information useful.
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post Aug 11 2015, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 8 2015, 07:39 PM)
elliot_WD Thanks , guess it's more risky doing that.

super macgyver What kind to software you use to check for bad sector ? 1TB takes so long where last time i tried 500GB takes 6-7 hours to scan . rclxub.gif
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Hey Maxieos,

Yup, it's definitely a risky one.

Well, alternatively you could try running the DLG(Data Lifeguard Diagnostics) for your drive to determine the health status. Just bear in mind that for DLG, it can only help to read the status and not fix any bad sectors. Here is the link on how to do so:

http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=4rQJdl

Please do share to us the test results. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 18 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 15 2015, 12:05 PM)
my 1tb samsung drive is dying. noticed some errors when download torrent, then ran a hd tunes to double check.

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so i was wondering of whether to get a HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 4tb 7200rpm 24/7 HDD (HUS724040ALE640)
http://www.storagereview.com/hgst_ultrasta...hus724040ale640
my concern though is whether it would be better to wait for 2016 to get an x-point intel/micron hdd.
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they promise cheaper, faster latencies, better iops, more capacity size, and better endurance than ssds.

right now for archival storage purposes, people still rely on hdds for the bigger and cheaper capacities. but with xpoint won't this change ?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9470/intel-a...rance-than-nand

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/int...ory-technology/
in terms of ssd capacities only lately has some models reached 6tb. however major downside is the ridiculously expensive price
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/205362-...arket-this-july

and even crazier is samsungs 16gb ssd
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/21220...ith-new-3d-nand
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Hey there Moogle Stiltzkin

If you have checked the HDD health status, and found that “CAUTION” is written under Health Status, it can be a bad sector on HDD.

Sectors are reallocated when they’ve gone bad (a hardware fault on the drive). Modern drives are built with spare sectors precisely for this purpose, but a large number of reallocated sectors indicates that there is a more serious problem with the drive and it is likely to fail soon. This is also likely to contribute to the slowness of your PC.

Alternatively you could try running the DLG(Data Lifeguard Diagnostics) for your HDD just to double confirm on that. Here is the link on how to do so:
http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=4rQJdl

The best option now is to backup all your data from your HDD if possible before it fails catastrophically, and if the HDD is still under warranty, then you can proceed to RMA it.

Hope you find this information useful, good luck.


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post Aug 18 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 14 2015, 09:26 PM)
elliot_WD If using SMART test vs DLG , which one is more better ?
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Hey there Maxieos

I would rather say that both feed the same purpose which is to run a test to determine the HDD status. SMART test is more to like checking all the hardware whereby the DLG is more specific in HDD. With the DLG you can run more than just a SMART test which is the EXTENDED TEST.

This test performs a Full Media Scan to detect bad sectors. This particular test may take several hours to complete depending on the size of the drive but then it will give you a full review on your drive.

 

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