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TSeverling
post Jun 15 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Jun 15 2012, 08:19 PM)
thks for lengthy info sharing smile.gif

fyi, my 14 years-old kodak cd are still ok until today n i still keeping them, my luck maybe wink.gif

for corporate normally they backup using tapes, agree that raid maybe a good option for home user nod.gif
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CDs are actually much more suitable than DVDs and Blu-ray for long term storage, because their data pits are many times larger and it will take that much longer for oxidation to erase these pits. Of course, you have to pay for all the extra discs, burn 7x more discs, and store 7x more discs than you would in DVDs.

For corporate, it is probably more due to tradition and conservatism that they use tape backups. Or perhaps they don't really plan to touch the tape backups ever again once they are created and perhaps don't really care if data is lost. Active RAID storage for pure backup purposes that are not likely to be used at all would simply incur more cost than off-line tape storage.

QUOTE(pstar @ Jun 15 2012, 09:27 PM)
any hybrid drives to recommend? maybe 30gb SSD and 500gb 2.5 SATA?
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Iianm, currently there are no hybrid drives that have 30GB of NAND and 500GB in platters.
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post Jun 16 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Jun 15 2012, 10:25 PM)
CDs are actually much more suitable than DVDs and Blu-ray for long term storage, because their data pits are many times larger and it will take that much longer for oxidation to erase these pits. Of course, you have to pay for all the extra discs, burn 7x more discs, and store 7x more discs than you would in DVDs.

For corporate, it is probably more due to tradition and conservatism that they use tape backups. Or perhaps they don't really plan to touch the tape backups ever again once they are created and perhaps don't really care if data is lost. Active RAID storage for pure backup purposes that are not likely to be used at all would simply incur more cost than off-line tape storage.
Iianm, currently there are no hybrid drives that have 30GB of NAND and 500GB in platters.
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not sure how true is it but the life span written on the cover is 100-year laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2012, 01:29 PM

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Any portable 2.5" hard drive to recommend? Capacity between 750GB to 1TB.

I'm actually quite confused between WD My Passport Essential, My Passport Essential SE and My Passport. They seem kinda the same to me...
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post Jun 16 2012, 05:38 PM

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There's always M-disc: http://millenniata.com/m-disc/

It's still expensive though and no one can really say it will last forever yet, since... the company hasn't been around long enough to be called "forever".
On theory though, the technology they use does seem to imply M-disc will retain your data forever.

I'm thinking to buy a pack to try it out as I have an exact LG DVD drive that supports the M-disc format.

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post Jun 16 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 16 2012, 05:38 PM)
There's always M-disc: http://millenniata.com/m-disc/

It's still expensive though and no one can really say it will last forever yet, since... the company hasn't been around long enough to be called "forever".
On theory though, the technology they use does seem to imply M-disc will retain your data forever.

I'm thinking to buy a pack to try it out as I have an exact LG DVD drive that supports the M-disc format.
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The M-DISC utilizes chemically stable and heat-resistant materials that are not used in any other DVD or optical disc! These materials cannot be overwritten, erased, or corrupted by natural processes. Data is stored on the M-DISC by physically altering the data layer and creating permanent voids or holes. This new method of burning data is specifically designed to make your data endure the next 1000 years. << shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Jun 16 2012, 11:58 PM

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today my seagate barracuda was dead.
not under warranty anymore, all data gone
i plug in power and sata cable
the harddisk got no response at all
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post Jun 17 2012, 12:08 AM

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Heard that Thunderbolt offer a very fast speed, if so, is there any external HDD that supports TB n USB 3.0 in the market now? juz curious as i nvr came across this new TB format on external HDD.

Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex

Found 1 but its' quite pricey for 750gb hdd. sweat.gif

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post Jun 17 2012, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Jun 16 2012, 11:58 PM)
today my seagate barracuda was dead.
not under warranty anymore, all data gone
i plug in power and sata cable
the harddisk got no response at all
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Is sad to heard that each and everyday someone HDD is gone. Even the data is not that important but still the files inside is kept from a very long time of accumulation. Ever since, the HDD is getting bigger and bigger and our files are getting more and more collection we still feel sad that all the data is gone now FOREVER. So, best way is to make a backup and that means we more HDD and cost of HDD now are insanely high. sad.gif If you had 3TB that mean another for the backup will cost double) RM1k shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(pixit @ Jun 17 2012, 01:15 AM)
Is sad to heard that each and everyday someone HDD is gone. Even the data is not that important but still the files inside is kept from a very long time of accumulation. Ever since, the HDD is getting bigger and bigger and our files are getting more and more collection we still feel sad that all the data is gone now FOREVER. So, best way is to make a backup and that means we more HDD and cost of HDD now are insanely high. sad.gif If you had 3TB that mean another for the backup will cost double) RM1k  shakehead.gif
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ya lol, luckily the one dead just 320gb and all my important data inside external harddisk. but some song just downloaded all gone, song list gone. sigh!
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Jun 16 2012, 07:59 PM)
Quoted:
The M-DISC utilizes chemically stable and heat-resistant materials that are not used in any other DVD or optical disc! These materials cannot be overwritten, erased, or corrupted by natural processes. Data is stored on the M-DISC by physically altering the data layer and creating permanent voids or holes.  This new method of burning data is specifically designed to make your data endure the next 1000 years. <<  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Yeah, let's call our descendants from God knows where 1000 years later and ask them if our pr0n collection still intact in that M-disc or not. laugh.gif

In all seriousness, $20 USD for 5 discs (not counting shipping)... dang, expensive man. sweat.gif

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post Jun 17 2012, 05:08 AM

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Guys, having multiple times copying files over and over will cause some data loses?

Some of my movie files are corrupted or having some glitch during scenes time and also not to mentions mp3.
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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Jun 17 2012, 05:08 AM)
Guys, having multiple times copying files over and over will cause some data loses?

Some of my movie files are corrupted or having some glitch during scenes time and also not to mentions mp3.
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unlikely but i experienced this, the culprit was faulty ram and eventually lead to intermittent bluescreen. do u encounter any bluescreen lately?
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post Jun 17 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jun 17 2012, 12:08 AM)
Heard that Thunderbolt offer a very fast speed, if so, is there any external HDD that supports TB n USB 3.0 in the market now? juz curious as i nvr came across this new TB format on external HDD.
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External HDDs with USB 3.0 will perform about the same as external HDDs with Thunderbolt, both has maximum transfer speeds that exceeds what HDDs can do. You might see a performance difference if you used SSDs instead of HDDs, but that is more expensive and wasteful.

QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Jun 17 2012, 05:08 AM)
Guys, having multiple times copying files over and over will cause some data loses?

Some of my movie files are corrupted or having some glitch during scenes time and also not to mentions mp3.
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Copying files over and over will normally not cause data loss. It could be bad RAM as sotong168 suggested, or it could be that you have bad sectors, or that your HDD is dying. I would recommend doing a full HDD scan and checking the SMART attributes. You can use the HDDScan software that is linked in the first post.
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post Jun 17 2012, 08:54 PM

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just sent my 500GB preflood HDD to RMA today
bought 1TB WD Blue Caviar
the pain when receipt shows that i paid RM108 for that 500GB and now im paying RM280 for 1 Terabyte..that pain..
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Anyone used WD Scorpio Blue?
Any reviews? tongue.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:51 AM

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Guys, I'm looking for 2.5inches 2TB external hdd. Budget around RM600+ Any recommendation? So far the one i found is the WD latest hdd...
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Jun 18 2012, 11:51 AM)
Guys, I'm looking for 2.5inches 2TB external hdd. Budget around RM600+ Any recommendation? So far the one i found is the WD latest hdd...
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2.5" got such large capacity? blink.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(T-Mac1 @ Jun 18 2012, 06:10 PM)
2.5" got such large capacity? blink.gif
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Yes. RM699 i found. WD PASSPORT USB3 or Studio version which cost around Rm799
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Question. My client ask me to get a 3.5 internal Hitachi 2TB HDD that cost around RM385 (C-Zone price list), cost more than Seagate & WD.

Is Hitachi hdd more better than Seagate or WD?

Or just the stock is low so thats why the price is higher?

TQ.
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QUOTE(Mac Man @ LYF @ Jun 18 2012, 11:12 PM)
Question. My client ask me to get a 3.5 internal Hitachi 2TB HDD that cost around RM385 (C-Zone price list), cost more than Seagate & WD.

Is Hitachi hdd more better than Seagate or WD?

Or just the stock is low so thats why the price is higher?

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Just bought a 2TB Hitachi 7K3000 last week...stocks are very limited now...been to many shops in LY also couldnt find.
End up got it from Jayacom for rm370..according to LY shops...whats left on the market are the last batch of stock..since they got bought over by WD

From my research..seems that its more reliable than WD green and the newer Seagates...

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