QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 1 2012, 03:49 PM)
if both object at the same distance.
DOF on DX is thinner.
That's incorrect. FX always has thinner DoF.
QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 1 2012, 03:49 PM)
but when u frame the object so both looks the same in the viewfinder.
ie. u move closer with FX, then the DOF on FX become thinner cos closer to object.
Correct.
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 1 2012, 06:10 PM)
Yeah, the DOF on DX is thinner given the same distance between camera and object. My bad and thanks for correcting me

Don't think you needed to be corrected because you were correct to begin with. FX always have thinner DoF.
QUOTE(ojtee @ Mar 1 2012, 11:16 PM)
my first additional gear is always a flashgun, hell i have 2 SBs, but i dunno if the R1C1 does count in as 1 or 2 , if its 2 then 1 have 4 flashes.....

Wah... R1C1 is hardcore already.
QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 2 2012, 08:30 PM)
i want the crop factor.
plus D700 or 800 doesnt look interesting to me.
if got money sure go straight D3s or D4.
1.5x crop factor on D800 already gives you 16MP. What more do you want?
QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 2 2012, 11:34 PM)
yalor, nikon's ergonomics is so nice. hold a D700, then go hold the 5D2, u'll definitely feel the 5D2 is cheaper build (not cheaper la..maybe not as tough

)
for D800 vs 5D3, maybe it comes to the user itself. see whether u nid godly MP's or faster frame rate (and also other things that they offer)

Strange that for the first time in many years, Nikon is playing the lead in the MP race...

Like celciuz, I rather sacrifice a little on the MP and go for a higher frame rate.
QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 4 2012, 01:25 PM)
nikon 20mm is the easiest widest one to find...and not that expensive.
also got 14mm and 18mm primes, but definitely not cheap or even easy to find here.
I still have my 18mm...

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 5 2012, 12:56 PM)
Who's more interested with Canon 5DMK3 than D800/D800E now?
Have not taken a peek at the other side... What does it have that will entice future D800 owners?
QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 5 2012, 04:49 PM)
if D4 is targetted at sporting pros, the most they will go is ISO3200 with a f/4 lens.
most of the time will be at ISO1600 or lower depending on condition with their f/2.8 lens.
so i would think for them the high ISO is already excellent at those settings.
what D4 offers them tho, is 10FPS at RAW with no noticeable loss in speed due to its 100 shot RAW buffer.
and, it can still AF with lenses f/8 and slower, meaning they can stick on a 2x TC in front of their 200-400 f/4, and get a 400-800 f/8 that can still AF...no current body right now is able to do this.
Exactly. +1
QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 5 2012, 09:05 PM)
2x TC for sport photographer? you must be jk right?
for fast action shots, you need to have fast af speed, superb tracking accuracy and high speed burst mode.
i bet you have nv try any TC before. The af speed with TC is like 2 times slower than without.
The 2x TC is the worst, it's horrendously slow and totally not suitable for fast pace action.
this is why we rarely see sports photographer using TC.
TC is more useful on birding/wildlife, and it's only for slow(seldom move) subjects.
We do see people using TC for sports. Just not so common.
Of course you find it "more often" used on something like a 200mm f/2.0 or on a 300mm f/2.8 and 400mm f/2.8 lenses mounted on pro bodies.
QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 5 2012, 10:22 PM)
I believe those people are from the press. They have designated areas and the proper lenses for them to have the need to use a TC. If they want a closer crop, it's usually faster for their desk editor to crop in PP.
p/s: BTW, AF tracking and Canon equipment should not be mentioned in the same line.