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post Apr 12 2013, 12:31 AM

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anyone knows which sound quality is better for mp3 players? Sony NW-S series or Ipod Nano 7th gen?
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post Apr 12 2013, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Apr 12 2013, 04:09 PM)
Please state price. And your prior mp3 player (if any) so that we would not recommend "downgraded" mp3  icon_idea.gif
Many factors beside SQ. Basically, Sony mp3 player allows more DSP features like bass boost, etc.
Ipod Nano is on-the-go player. Doesn't really sacrifice SQ.

However, if you wanna play "Line-Out" feature from mp3 player to amp (by passing internal amplifier of the mp3 player), sorry, latest gen ipod nano does not offer it anymore. Sony mp3 still can.
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Does that mean Sony sacrifice SQ for the EQ? I don't really play with EQ settings for every song, prefer if the sound is closest to lossless quality? I'm not really an audiophile, so what i'm saying might not make sense >_<
but from what i've read on the net, reviews lean more towards Sony for sound quality over ipod?
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post Apr 12 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Apr 12 2013, 08:24 PM)
I totally understand your fear of not "listening" to everything, fearing that what you got is not true to the music.

Well, lemme give you some encouragement by saying, there is no IDEAL sound for everyone. While most people I know prefers neutral sound, there are people who prefer more bass, or more treble (brighter, feels like more detail), or more anything. It's totally up to you to say which one you like, and nobody has the right to say you are wrong. Heck, even my brother like +5 bass -5 treble the way he likes his Beats  mad.gif  LOL

Anyway, i checked your Sony S Series, and Sony does offer several DSP which may enhance your listening experience if you're using less than stellar headphones/earphones. Well, for starters, you have Clear Stereo, Clear Bass, and DSEE DSPs to make your songs more pleasure to listen. Compared to Apple IPods, it has fixed EQ choices, which may or may not be your cup of tea.

Well, if you're the kind of person who prefers to leave the settings to default, actually you can leave those Sony DSPs "ON" and still able to rock most of your songs, if not all, and if you don't really nitpicking. Besides, the latest Ipod Nano has lost its unique feature, the Line-Out port, which most audiophiles would love to have in order to let their external amplifiers in total control of the music player. Sony still has it, however, I can't tell you if it's true Line-Out or otherwise as I don't have that kind of data with me currently.

Anyway, it all comes down to personal preferences. If for me, maybe I save up for iPod Classic (which is going to be discontinued soon), or going for Sony F-Series which can be found in the garage sales (Sony Stores have them too, albeit more expensive by Rm400+/-)
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Thanks alot for the info! I actually bought the Sony NW-S766 yesterday and will be waiting for shipping. It's a Japanese variant, so i couldn't find any reviews on it though. I mainly wanted it for the bluetooth feature especially that it could be used with FM radio together. Most mini size mp3 players requires the wired earphones to act as an antenna, but i think this model doesn't require that.
I'm not a true/pure audiophile like everyone here, so i probably won't nitpick much. But i do appreciate quality sound. I hope i bought the correct model, since i'm like shooting in the dark without any reviews about it. And i know i overpaid for it too (rm450), but can't be help since it's only sold in Japan...
And i wanted a mini sized mp3 so it'll be alot easier and convenient if i go jogging or something too smile.gif

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post Apr 13 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Apr 12 2013, 11:30 PM)
Then i don't see any problem with that. So far it's a good deal for the features you wanted.
Remember that since it's portable, the SQ won't matter so much. It's not night and day difference, especially you're listening to music outside, which greatly handicapped the SQ of any player/gear unless it is tightly sealing your ears. Anyway, you won't be critically listening also, which makes the SQ of any player "quite" redundant as your ears ain't having so much time to focus on the music itself.
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True, but i guess for the amount of money we pay, we expect SQ to be at least good if not excellent. For a RM450 music player i'll probably be using it as my dedicated portable gear, so SQ is still pretty important for me. And i always use in-ear earphones, so the ones i use has pretty good noise isolation and sealed quite tight.
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post Apr 26 2013, 12:04 AM

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i'm still trying to find a mp3 player with the following specs:
- Around ipod nano 7th gen size
- Supports flac
- Supports bluetooth
- Have FM radio
- Good sound quality
- Minimum 16gig storage

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anyone knows any player like the above? and within reasonable price? =/

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post Apr 26 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Apr 26 2013, 04:38 PM)
Samsung YP-P3 would fit the bill nicely.

http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/tv-audi...P-P3AB/XSP-spec

Though one problem is it is a little dated and might be hard to come by. Price is not bad too, and can be used as your phone (connect with bluetooth to phone to answer calls and read SMS).
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Looks interesting, but its only 8gig sad.gif
I use flac mostly and 8 gig won't give me much space for songs though. Sorry I should have mentioned at least 16gig in the list as well >.<
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Apr 29 2013, 04:29 AM)
how bout try the hisound nova N1 or N3?
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I would but there's no Bluetooth sad.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 09:33 PM

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Okay, i gave up trying to find a mini portable player with audiophile grade SQ and bluetooth. So i'm going for just mini portable player with audiophile grade SQ.

Looked at Hisound Nova series, looks promising until i read about all the bugs loaded with it as well. So looks like i'm looking at either Colorfly C3 or Cowon. Not sure which Cowon series though.
Anyone has any better options? Price wise please below RM700ish =)
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post Apr 29 2013, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 29 2013, 09:55 PM)
s9 and j3 are the best but good luck finding them. current model which u can consider including x9, z2 and i10. i pick i10 cus the size and interface. z2 use android which i'm not really care about it but the design is slick. x9 is nice with long lasting battery life but quite bulky.
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actually i want a size similar if not smaller than ipod nano but with at least 16gig storage or with microsd slot. Read up on the i10, not very keen on capacitive touch buttons though. How much and where did you get it from? If i could get it for around RM500ish then i might consider that...
Do you know any other players of similar size/quality?

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post Apr 29 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 29 2013, 10:17 PM)
if compare to ipod nano 5th gen, the size is about the same; slightly bigger i think.

http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/iA...duct_page_4.php

sound quality is superb even without tweaking eq or bbe. i'm comparing with ipod touch4/iphone4, zune hd and clip zip with rockbox.
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how much did you pay for it? and where did you buy it from? =)
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post Apr 29 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 29 2013, 10:55 PM)
so you bought from amazon and used her shipping services? aikzz..
was hoping for a cod or shop for around that price haha
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post Apr 29 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 29 2013, 11:25 PM)
yea, i can't find it locally even in singapore no black color available. that is why i use bulk service and decided to order from amazon. how about sony mp3?. http://www.sony.com.my/product/nwz-f804
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haha that's alot bigger than the cowon i10... i want it to be as small as possible with amazing SQ =D

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post Apr 30 2013, 01:56 PM

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Hi Emokia Hehe. Sorry for delaying reply, still researching on other portable audio besides Sony Hehe. It was a tiring long process trying to filter out the devices. None were up to my liking which had Bluetooth on top of the size and sq ;(
So I downgraded my options to blue toothless Haha

Was narrowing down after a number of devices to Cowon i10, Hisound Nova, Colorfly C3 and hm-601.
Gonna forget the hm-601 since the price is way over my budget Haha

Aside from the pros which is great SQ among other things for the Cowon, Hisound and Color fly, I'll just focus on the negatives/cons instead based on what I've read.

Cowon i10
- battery life is quite poor for flacs according to some
- durability/quality check is quite poor compared to the past
- annoying capacitive touch buttons
- no expandable memory slot

Hisound Nova (after latest firmware update)
Was really leaning towards this until i read many users nightmare dealing with this..
- non user friendly updates for non chinese readers
- poor support for flac, skipping the first half a sec at the start of each songs and occasional background noise
- hissing noises still apparent when reading/playing songs from sd card
- buggy interface
- occassional crashes

Colorfly C3
- weird awkward touch buttons
- no FM radio? Aikz ;(
- bulkier compared the other 2
- battery life for flac not that great either
- no customizing eq (con for some)

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post Apr 30 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 30 2013, 02:17 PM)
regarding i10, battery life quite the same either playing flac or mp3. i usually disable sleep function and use power off instead to increase battery life. touch buttons can be troublesome at 1st but nothing major. overall quality is great with matte surface. it match my hf5 perfectly smile.gif
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I read someone did a continuous test run on flacs and the player died off after 8-10 hours while MP3 more than 14-16 hours. Have you tested yours? Maybe depends on users luck if they get a better battery copy wink.gif

Anyone knows how the sansa clip+, cube c30 and hippo gumstick sound quality compare to colorfly c3 and Cowon i10?

And also sansa vs cube and hippo?

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post May 1 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Apr 30 2013, 10:09 PM)
i am using sansa fuze personally i think that what you are going to use it with first?? if you plan to use it with iem i highly recommend sansa is a very good player for its price and if you want to amp it to power a more powerful headphone you can use lod to connect it to a amp
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yep gonna use with iem.
i'm leaning more towards getting sansa clip+ for jogging/exercise and colorfly c3 for more serious listening =)
heard the cube c30 is slightly better than the sansa clip, but decided on the sansa just for the clip lol
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post May 7 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ May 7 2013, 10:52 PM)
Had the Hippo Gumstick... starting to die...

I got RM200 on hands...

what player would be the best to replace the Gumstick other than Cube C30?

say... my requirements are
-able to play wav,flac and ape
-easy to read screen/interface
-expandable memory
-small or thin
-long lasting battery(not necessary)

I've seen Sansa Clip+ and Sansa Fuze... not sure if it's a wise choice to change there
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What's wrong with Sansa Clip+? I don't own one, but from what i've read up the SQ is almost on par with Cube C30 and it's alot easier to navigate through songs. Only concern i have is the durability since i've read a number of people having their players die off after a year =/
Was thinking of getting myself a Sansa Clip Zip as well for jogging/gym purposes.

However if you could increase your budget to slightly above RM300, i'd recommend Colorfly C3.
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post May 20 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 20 2013, 03:57 PM)
Hi guys, need expert opinion and suggestion from you all,

Budget : below 200 (willing for extra if worth it)
been Using : old Sony NWZ-B133F (already dead)
priority: battery life and SQ
usage: gonna use it while studying and long travel

i like clear sound if that help, not really a strong bass fan
advice pls  notworthy.gif
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if clarity is your main priority then definitely Colorfly C3. Best value to quality ratio. But no features though, pure music player. You probably could get it for around RM300ish
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post May 20 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 20 2013, 11:00 PM)
thank for ur advices.. hmm, the colourfly look tempting  hmm.gif
i might consider if know the exact price

how about hippo biscuit? i heard the SQ is really great
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well in lowyat forum, a guy (Slevin) is selling it for RM320+ i think. I bought mine from him.

Hippo biscuit is small, durable and cute haha. Very portable. Functions are very limited but based on reviews the SQ is better that iphone and ipods. Though if you want lossless music format, it only supports Wav.
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post May 20 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 20 2013, 11:15 PM)
is it better then c3 than?  how about battery wise?
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C3 should be better, but it is more expensive than Hippo Biscuit.
But to me, the C3 sounds better with Balance Armature driver earphones. Dynamic drivers doesn't sound as good compared to BA earphones when using C3.

Hippo Biscuit should do well with both BA and Dynamic i think.

battery wise, it depends what music file format you are playing with. If you are going for lossless, then the battery usage life will be shorter.

oh, added a review from a hippo biscuit user in jaben forum http://www.headjam.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=17
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post May 21 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 21 2013, 06:02 PM)
seriously considering for c3 now.
already contacted selvin. currently waiting for stock
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congrats! you won't regret the SQ especially on BA driver earphone types. Dynamic sounds decent as well =)
although their touch button sucks lol

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