Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Consequence of transferring assets before bankrupt, Advice please

views
     
TSF3RAL HO
post Jan 22 2012, 02:33 PM, updated 14y ago

New Member
*
Junior Member
5 posts

Joined: Dec 2011


Good day to all lowyat members, sorry if my topic is under the wrong part of the forum, please close it if it is =)

Anyhow, my relative is sued for bankruptcy on year 2009 (he is still not bankrupt at the moment, but blacklisted), he transferred his property (own house) to his sister in the same year 2009. I've heard that the official assignees or government have to power to take back the property of the bankrupt (even after transferred or sold to third party). Is this true?

ahpoh
post Jan 22 2012, 03:18 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
376 posts

Joined: Mar 2005


but it will have cooling period of 6 month
property101
post Jan 22 2012, 03:25 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,830 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(F3RAL HO @ Jan 22 2012, 02:33 PM)
Good day to all lowyat members, sorry if my topic is under the wrong part of the forum, please close it if it is =)

Anyhow, my relative is sued for bankruptcy on year 2009 (he is still not bankrupt at the moment, but blacklisted), he transferred his property (own house) to his sister in the same year 2009. I've heard that the official assignees or government have to power to take back the property of the bankrupt (even after transferred or sold to third party). Is this true?
*
i believe after it is 'sold', there is no one else can take back. i mean think of it, if i spent 500k to buy a property, 2 years later some authority said they will take property away because it was owned by a bankrupt person. rclxub.gif

however i believe transfer within family members, there is a term for this, the transaction type is called something like "act of love". in this scenario, i believe the property can be taken back.

my dad used to owe banks a lot of money, thinking of transferring the properties and file bankrupt but eventually didnt go ahead. i believe is for the same reason.
chrisljc
post Jan 22 2012, 04:08 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
57 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
It depends the situation, if you friend is being bankruptcy sued then transfer his properties to others, this is against to the laws. The liquidators may be authorised by the commercial court to liquidate your assets and return the money to the debtors.

If your friend transfer his properties to others before being sued bankruptcy, then it is likely safe. However, if your intention is significant, the debtors may sue you to commercial court, and your assets may be reserved.

Beware of some borrowing terms and conditions, some debts require collateral to protect their interest, therefore you could not simply sell or transfer your assets, unless you have got their permission to do so. Otherwise, you may breach the agreement of debts, you may be sued under commercial court as well.
doraemonkiller
post Jan 22 2012, 04:54 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,128 posts

Joined: Nov 2008


Transfer the asset and sell the asset is 2 different action. If transfer with bad intention, the agreement between the both party of asset transferred can be void.

This post has been edited by doraemonkiller: Jan 22 2012, 04:55 PM
cherroy
post Jan 23 2012, 11:30 AM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(F3RAL HO @ Jan 22 2012, 02:33 PM)
Anyhow, my relative is sued for bankruptcy on year 2009 (he is still not bankrupt at the moment, but blacklisted), he transferred his property (own house) to his sister in the same year 2009. I've heard that the official assignees or government have to power to take back the property of the bankrupt (even after transferred or sold to third party). Is this true?
*
It is true.

If the asset is just being transferred prior before 2/5 years, it can be recalled back.

http://www.insolvensi.gov.my/index.php?opt...mid=587&lang=en
QUOTE
Question 19
What happens if the bankrupt has transferred his house or other asset to a third party prior to bankruptcy ?

Answer
The DGI has the power to avoid transactions made within a period of 5 years prior to the bankruptcy. The DGI will investigate the transfer and may recover the asset if the transfer was to defeat creditors or if the consideration for the transfer was less than the market value or if it was in preference to other creditors. Disposing or transferring property prior bankruptcy with intent to defeat the creditors is an offence under the Bankruptcy Act. (2 years / 5 years)



Added on January 23, 2012, 11:31 am
QUOTE(property101 @ Jan 22 2012, 03:25 PM)
i believe after it is 'sold', there is no one else can take back. i mean think of it, if i spent 500k to buy a property, 2 years later some authority said they will take property away because it was owned by a bankrupt person.  rclxub.gif

*
Sold and transferred is 2 totally different situation, TS is asking about transfer.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 23 2012, 11:31 AM
NelsonBoy
post Jan 24 2012, 03:50 PM

l Audio Paradise l
******
Senior Member
1,120 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Klang, Serdang, Seri Kembangan,Cheras



in the event of this,
your relative may be charged with fraud in court.

if your relative has the intention of avoiding assets being confis, bank has the right to reverse the transferring.

if your relative wanted to sell the prop before he/she goes bankcrupt, i am not sure if the transfer be successful or not.

hope this helps.




TSF3RAL HO
post Jan 29 2012, 07:40 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
5 posts

Joined: Dec 2011


Thank you everyone notworthy.gif for helping me out. By the way Cherroy, u said 2 / 5 years, why is there 2 different duration?

Also is there any better place i can get more information on this matter? Does law firm deal with such cases?
1282009
post Jan 29 2012, 07:55 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,230 posts

Joined: Jan 2009
QUOTE(F3RAL HO @ Jan 29 2012, 07:40 PM)
Thank you everyone  notworthy.gif  for helping me out. By the way Cherroy, u said 2 / 5 years, why is there 2 different duration?

Also is there any better place i can get more information on this matter? Does law firm deal with such cases?
*
Maybe u can post your topic/query in below thread - "Lawyer's Corner v2".

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2138486/+300



 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0155sec    0.26    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 15th December 2025 - 07:05 AM