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post Mar 21 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ElaineChewMeow @ Mar 21 2012, 11:22 AM)
After reading this thread i dont know should continue my mind to buy Savvy, was planning to buy the second hand one but since so many problem, not sure that this car is still a good choice.
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what problem in the 1st place? If you looking for AMT then better don't but if MT then go ahead. It's a damn good ride. Most problem which we are facing are the tear and wear parts. Most likely buying other 2nd hand car you will face the same issue. Like wheel bearing ignition coil/plug cable and so on so forth. It happens in all car la.
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post Mar 21 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 21 2012, 01:09 PM)
what problem in the 1st place? If you looking for AMT then better don't but if MT then go ahead. It's a damn good ride. Most problem which we are facing are the tear and wear parts. Most likely buying other 2nd hand car you will face the same issue. Like wheel bearing ignition coil/plug cable and so on so forth. It happens in all car la.
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Well, if it is so, mind to tell what to be careful with if i going to see second hand Savvy?
Since all the owner is gathering here in this thread, you all should know what to check and know the common problem of this car, what thing to avoid and so on...
How to test the car bla bla... This is my 1st time buying a car.

This post has been edited by ElaineChewMeow: Mar 21 2012, 02:26 PM
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post Mar 21 2012, 03:19 PM

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anyone know roughly how much is the cost for timing belt change and anyone can recommend good workshop around klang valley. I don't wanna get ripped off..my mileage nearing 100k already
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post Mar 21 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ElaineChewMeow @ Mar 21 2012, 02:24 PM)
Well, if it is so, mind to tell what to be careful with if i going to see second hand Savvy?
Since all the owner is gathering here in this thread, you all should know what to check and know the common problem of this car, what thing to avoid and so on...
How to test the car bla bla... This is my 1st time buying a car.
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ahhh i see. In this case i would recommend you to get the cheapest you can get then allocate around 2k to change all the tear and wear part like all other car would need.

1st off all head on to RS Auto or Renautech.
If car > 3 years and running more than 70k km
Timing Kit whole set RM600
Engine Oil RM125
Spark Plug - Champion RM80
Renault Gear Box oil RM45 x 4
Air Filter - Drop in RM150, CAP Ayam RM20
Modify TDC Sensor RM30
Throttle Body Cleaning RM15
A new set of brake pad normal ones RM150 depan belakang. Better one RM2xx depan belakang.
Tire of course! RM600 - RM700 whole set

What you need to do before purchasing.

Test drive! make sure when low RPM no jerking. Sign of ignition coil problem
No whinning sound at >60km/h back tire bearing need to change. RM85 1 side...


Added on March 21, 2012, 4:44 pm
QUOTE(ssangyongs @ Mar 21 2012, 03:19 PM)
anyone know roughly how much is the cost for timing belt change and anyone can recommend good workshop around klang valley. I don't wanna get ripped off..my mileage nearing 100k already
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I heard Renautech is cheaper. around RM500. I went to RS Auto, RM600. whole set with the other 2 belts.

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post Mar 22 2012, 11:39 AM

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a bit confius..what act the recommended amount for gearbox oil (MT)?

previously go to sc they just pour in 3 liters. i ask them twice bout the actual amount and they convince me only 3 liters is enough. since they "look" more expert than me i didn't argue further.
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post Mar 22 2012, 11:45 AM

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@kidmad,

its been a while i flush my engine oil with the flusher sold in the market, is it recommended to flush the engine oil once in a while? or theres not difference?
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post Mar 22 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ Mar 22 2012, 11:45 AM)
@kidmad,

its been a while i flush my engine oil with the flusher sold in the market, is it recommended to flush the engine oil once in a while? or theres not difference?
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Hurmm i did ask a couple of mechs as well but they say don't waste your time. After 10 year just overhaul. But from what i read somewhere it's better not too flush. If you want to flush make sure you use the right product. If the flush is not properly drain it might be a problem. You would not want it to evaporate and stuck in your engine afterall.

Myself the next run ill just pour in ceretec and use liqui moly semi oil. hehe i somehow like it effect.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 22 2012, 12:20 PM)
Hurmm i did ask a couple of mechs as well but they say don't waste your time. After 10 year just overhaul. But from what i read somewhere it's better not too flush. If you want to flush make sure you use the right product. If the flush is not properly drain it might be a problem. You would not want it to evaporate and stuck in your engine afterall.

Myself the next run ill just pour in ceretec and use liqui moly semi oil. hehe i somehow like it effect.
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ceretec?
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post Mar 22 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ Mar 22 2012, 12:53 PM)
ceretec?
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Haha I think so. hehe
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 22 2012, 01:53 PM)
Haha I think so. hehe
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where to buy? price?


Added on March 22, 2012, 2:06 pm
QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 22 2012, 01:53 PM)
Haha I think so. hehe
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where to buy? price?

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post Mar 22 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ Mar 22 2012, 02:06 PM)
where to buy? price?
refer link below

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1764127&hl=

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2090530&hl=
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post Mar 22 2012, 05:42 PM

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www.mudah.my/Proton+Savvy+1+2-14422502.htm wow this 05 proton savvy RM10k only! get bank full loan then fork out 2k to fix all the tear and wear part. Worth it sial.
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post Mar 22 2012, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 22 2012, 12:20 PM)
Hurmm i did ask a couple of mechs as well but they say don't waste your time. After 10 year just overhaul. But from what i read somewhere it's better not too flush. If you want to flush make sure you use the right product. If the flush is not properly drain it might be a problem. You would not want it to evaporate and stuck in your engine afterall.

Myself the next run ill just pour in ceretec and use liqui moly semi oil. hehe i somehow like it effect.
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Ceretec and liqui moly semi oil just pour in during normal service?
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 21 2012, 04:42 PM)
ahhh i see. In this case i would recommend you to get the cheapest you can get then allocate around 2k to change all the tear and wear part like all other car would need.

1st off all head on to RS Auto or Renautech.
If car > 3 years and running more than 70k km
Timing Kit whole set RM600
Engine Oil RM125
Spark Plug - Champion RM80
Renault Gear Box oil RM45 x 4
Air Filter - Drop in RM150, CAP Ayam RM20
Modify TDC Sensor RM30
Throttle Body Cleaning RM15
A new set of brake pad normal ones RM150 depan belakang. Better one RM2xx depan belakang.
Tire of course! RM600 - RM700 whole set

What you need to do before purchasing.

Test drive! make sure when low RPM no jerking. Sign of ignition coil problem
No whinning sound at >60km/h back tire bearing need to change. RM85 1 side...


Added on March 21, 2012, 4:44 pm
I heard Renautech is cheaper. around RM500. I went to RS Auto, RM600. whole set with the other 2 belts.
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Wow bro you have everything listed down... respect man notworthy.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Mar 22 2012, 08:33 PM)
Ceretec and liqui moly semi oil just pour in during normal service?
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yaya let me test it out first and update here. tongue.gif Savvy engine is already quite silent as compared to Myvi not sure would it still sound if i pour them in. tongue.gif


Added on March 22, 2012, 9:36 pm
QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Mar 22 2012, 09:27 PM)
Wow bro you have everything listed down... respect man notworthy.gif
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Hehe gone through the whole process. I changed all the mentioned last year.


Added on March 22, 2012, 9:40 pm
QUOTE(fnf @ Mar 22 2012, 11:39 AM)
a bit confius..what act the recommended amount for gearbox oil (MT)?

previously go to sc they just pour in 3 liters. i ask them twice bout the actual amount and they convince me only 3 liters is enough. since they "look" more expert than me i didn't argue further.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif 3.4 litres if i am not mistaken. Need 4 bottle as far as i know. I used REDLINE MTL 70W80 GL-4 Gear Oil when i first got the car. No comments but so far so good already running 40k km my manual gearbox havun rosak. touch wood*

Transmission Oil TRANSELF TRJ 75W 80W (3.4 lit.) <--- this is what we suppose to use.

This post has been edited by kidmad: Mar 22 2012, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 22 2012, 09:35 PM)
yaya let me test it out first and update here. tongue.gif Savvy engine is already quite silent as compared to Myvi not sure would it still sound if i pour them in. tongue.gif


Added on March 22, 2012, 9:36 pm

Hehe gone through the whole process. I changed all the mentioned last year.


Added on March 22, 2012, 9:40 pm

hmm.gif  hmm.gif  3.4 litres if i am not mistaken. Need 4 bottle as far as i know. I used REDLINE MTL 70W80 GL-4 Gear Oil when i first got the car. No comments but so far so good already running 40k km my manual gearbox havun rosak. touch wood*

Transmission Oil TRANSELF TRJ 75W 80W (3.4 lit.) <--- this is what we suppose to use.
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approx 3.5 liter~

dunno much bout gbox oil.. but did use cheapo rm40 oil (pumped using some sort of lever).. running ok (gear seem a bit hard to change) for nearly a month.. then change back to elf.. using elf cause recommended by mr ho..

wanna try the EO, but a bit expensive side to me.. huhu.. using standard rm85 shell hx7 oil.. buy from tesco.. 5 liter summore.. so far so gooding..
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 21 2012, 04:42 PM)
ahhh i see. In this case i would recommend you to get the cheapest you can get then allocate around 2k to change all the tear and wear part like all other car would need.

1st off all head on to RS Auto or Renautech.
If car > 3 years and running more than 70k km
Timing Kit whole set RM600
Engine Oil RM125
Spark Plug - Champion RM80
Renault Gear Box oil RM45 x 4
Air Filter - Drop in RM150, CAP Ayam RM20
Modify TDC Sensor RM30
Throttle Body Cleaning RM15
A new set of brake pad normal ones RM150 depan belakang. Better one RM2xx depan belakang.
Tire of course! RM600 - RM700 whole set

What you need to do before purchasing.

Test drive! make sure when low RPM no jerking. Sign of ignition coil problem
No whinning sound at >60km/h back tire bearing need to change. RM85 1 side...


Added on March 21, 2012, 4:44 pm
I heard Renautech is cheaper. around RM500. I went to RS Auto, RM600. whole set with the other 2 belts.
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timing kit whole set means the belts right?
i changed that at RS auto before 2011 CNY for 400+
pricing seems like quite high now at RS auto..
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QUOTE(PeowYong @ Mar 23 2012, 02:01 PM)
timing kit whole set means the belts right?
i changed that at RS auto before 2011 CNY for 400+
pricing seems like quite high now at RS auto..
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err what you change first? I took the package for the kit. Timing belt +.. 2 other belt. RM600 at RS Auto but i change last year. I think if timing belt only it's RM400+
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QUOTE(ElaineChewMeow @ Mar 21 2012, 02:24 PM)
Well, if it is so, mind to tell what to be careful with if i going to see second hand Savvy?
Since all the owner is gathering here in this thread, you all should know what to check and know the common problem of this car, what thing to avoid and so on...
How to test the car bla bla... This is my 1st time buying a car.
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Buying used car?

First off go JPJ, pay RM10, get them to check got insurance claim or not. If got, probably accident before. Advised to skip, get another one.
If first one pass, see milage. Some are too high, some are too low compared to year of production. These are hints on expected service maintenance you gonna have to do.
Check :
- service record to see if owner properly service or not - if not skip the car
- body / outlook for dents, scratches or any other tell-tale signs of possible mishaps
- check exhaust for signs of rusting (original piping has this notorious problem that people seem to miss)
- tire treads (amazingly you can tell owner actually take care or not just by the tires - bring a friend if not sure)
- condition of engine bay (similar reason to above)
- ignition coil, if old type, you'll need to change. If new, good
- outside belting condition
- gear shifting smooth or hard
- pedal play for all 3. old clutch cable will be hard to press and might have noise. suggested to replace
- start the engine and listen for any abnormal noise (again bring a friend who's familiar with the car)
- test drive and get a feel. notice any jerks or power loss (anything not considered normal) when driving
- during test drive, don't drive like driving school. drive properly. vary speed & gears. go as fast as you can and as slow as you can
- all pass, check the rest, signal, hazard, horn, lights etc
- ask owner when was last service and what was done. as kidmad pointed out, belting might need to change if owner never changed but if he/she just did, no point you go change again..

That's all i can think of right now.. Good luck~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(PeowYong @ Mar 23 2012, 02:01 PM)
timing kit whole set means the belts right?
i changed that at RS auto before 2011 CNY for 400+
pricing seems like quite high now at RS auto..
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I didn't change mine at rs auto, but I changed at speedmag, timing belt kit + one cable I didn't remember if I'm not mistaken less than rm500.


Added on March 24, 2012, 8:18 am
QUOTE(neocyke @ Mar 24 2012, 03:03 AM)
Buying used car?

First off go JPJ, pay RM10, get them to check got insurance claim or not. If got, probably accident before. Advised to skip, get another one.
If first one pass, see milage. Some are too high, some are too low compared to year of production. These are hints on expected service maintenance you gonna have to do.
Check :
- service record to see if owner properly service or not - if not skip the car
- body / outlook for dents, scratches or any other tell-tale signs of possible mishaps
- check exhaust for signs of rusting (original piping has this notorious problem that people seem to miss)
- tire treads (amazingly you can tell owner actually take care or not just by the tires - bring a friend if not sure)
- condition of engine bay (similar reason to above)
- ignition coil, if old type, you'll need to change. If new, good
- outside belting condition
- gear shifting smooth or hard
- pedal play for all 3. old clutch cable will be hard to press and might have noise. suggested to replace
- start the engine and listen for any abnormal noise (again bring a friend who's familiar with the car)
- test drive and get a feel. notice any jerks or power loss (anything not considered normal) when driving
- during test drive, don't drive like driving school. drive properly. vary speed & gears. go as fast as you can and as slow as you can
- all pass, check the rest, signal, hazard, horn, lights etc
- ask owner when was last service and what was done. as kidmad pointed out, belting might need to change if owner never changed but if he/she just did, no point you go change again..

That's all i can think of right now.. Good luck~ smile.gif
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Regarding clutch cable, I don't think savvy's clutch cable is soft. It's only soft during first few weeks after you changed to new one, after that it goes back to normal feel. I know because I already changed one. At first I thought the new one is different kind because it's super soft. Hahaha.

This post has been edited by faizalmzain: Mar 24 2012, 08:18 AM

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