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 -+♦+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V30-+♦+-, Let's celebrate the Year of the Dragon!!

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post Jan 29 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jan 29 2012, 10:53 PM)
I don't mind... Ada lubang? brows.gif
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KL one i dunno lah.. But u can bid for the plates lah..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 29 2012, 10:59 PM)
what is lubang, and where is your company, i go interview, lol
oh i know, cause when driving manual we can drag gear ma, so can get higher RPM right, but does changing to this kind of extractor can safe more oil?
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Yeah corright.. haha.. Nope changing the extractor wont help u save oil.. It helps u save petrol.. haha..
Generally changing an extractor gives u the benefit of unlocking HP from ur car that is restricted due to the catalytic converter in the car a.k.a catcon..
A good extractor can give an improvement of around 8-10whp.. A catcon delete can give u at least 4whp increase in HP.. So u get better FC at the same time cos ur car is more powerful and u dont need to rev so hard..
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post Jan 29 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 29 2012, 11:06 PM)
wewwww why they want to catcon our car since can save oil, lol
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Cos without catcon we are polluting the environment a lot.. They have sports catcon also.. Lesser flow restriction but still got catcon..
Technically most of the ppl that buy a car do not modify their car.. Most of them are car savvy only or youngsters are the ones that modify the car..
Most of the developed country do not allow u to remove the catcon..
Some countries like singapore u cant even modify ur engine.. haha..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 29 2012, 11:12 PM)
i cannot brain this, lol decat can save petrol and give more power, why all car dowan decat, or shud i say, why stock car is not decat de
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Save the environment mah.. Not all cars decat ady sure save petrol.. Really modern cars with all the new tech and gadgets actually are optimally tuned to save petrol no matter with the catcon on or off..
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post Jan 29 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 29 2012, 11:52 PM)
oh, i see, means if flow restriction lower, HP higher lo, hehe, i know alot liao thanks haha
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Hehe no probs.. We are still awaiting the first turbocharged Persona in our club.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 30 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 30 2012, 12:01 AM)
if you plan to remove cat con, at the beginning of the process, jack up ur car, start engine then smell a bit of the exhaust fume.

then after the remove cat con process, repeat the process of start engine and smell the a bit of the fume.

you'll notice the difference and even the smell is so weird that I dunno how to describe. laugh.gif
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Can die loh like that..

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 30 2012, 12:01 AM)
and that weird smell is the one causing ice to melt, increase in earth temperature and also the 20/12/2012 epidermic.
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nope.. the 20/12/2012 is caused by the mayans who got lazy and stopped drawing their calendar on a slab of rock..
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post Jan 30 2012, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 30 2012, 12:17 AM)
hotbit is 1-3 & 2-4
i duno which other brand got same configuration like hotbit la...
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yeah lah. thats y sometimes think that hotbits setup is cacated.. BUt then also the setup provides very good power.. Really cant understand..

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 30 2012, 12:20 AM)
a bit only, not call you stand in front there for 5 hours.

but then hor, if die also good wad, means our point (damaging environment) proven. biggrin.gif
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I think u forget NO can kill ppl very easily even in small concentration.. Its odourless but terribly deadly..
Yeah it damages the environment.. But there are enough celebrities driving prius-es to help negate my damages.. haha.
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post Jan 30 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 30 2012, 12:28 AM)
ya, need to encourage hybrid cars in malaysia. thats why whenever there are thread that ask which car which car to choose, we always recommend the one using the less fuel. Need to conserve fuel for us speed freaks. tongue.gif
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LOL.. then recommend everyone to go drive a CR-Z ... 4.4L/100km FC.. Then we all can go and speed around..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 30 2012, 12:31 AM)
what abt powerzone?
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That one need samwong to post a pic..
Sam take a pic of the extractor and post it here.. we want to see is it the same combination as this..
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post Jan 30 2012, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Jan 30 2012, 01:46 AM)
Aiyaaa, that hotbits pic really make my mouth watery la.. Come, let's bulk from drex and ask for a super discount for the year of the dragon..
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I think drex no more masuk stock for Hotbits ady lor.. Now he full fledged FGK supporter ady.. haha..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 30 2012, 02:06 AM)
get 2 quatation bah... 1 is hotbit, another 1 is powerzone...
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Powerzone only can get from the Powerzone shop lah..
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post Jan 30 2012, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 30 2012, 02:22 AM)
then no choice lor
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FGK lah.. haha..
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post Jan 30 2012, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 30 2012, 02:30 AM)
got 4-2-1?
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Nope.. So far only 4-1..
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post Jan 30 2012, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(s30ckf @ Jan 30 2012, 03:18 AM)
Persona Elegrance Silver Manual reporting in, WWE2xx3

Any one here installed Locktech on your car ??
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Hi welcome.. Ur car is B line or M line?
Yeah i got install that Locktact..
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post Jan 30 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jan 30 2012, 07:51 AM)
Powerzone is 1-4,2-3.
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Oit thanks..

QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jan 30 2012, 08:00 AM)
Hope can get la...no guarantee... sweat.gif
so ur powerzone = my cap ayam

Poison extractor cap ayam tuna omega 3
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Except for the finishing and piping diameters and primary pipe length, not much difference.. haha..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jan 30 2012, 10:00 AM)
im thinking of getting this instead of new ford ranger..
bulk for whole malaysia le..
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CR-Z very small lah.. Drop by a Honda showroom to see the car first..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 30 2012, 10:14 AM)
CR-Z is a super cool looking car. Hybrid somemore but don't know the performance tho coz hybrid normally sucked at highway drive, for FC and performance.

Hati a bit itchy to change LCP to either work or myth....never really do a performance mod in any of my car. Some more my 10 years old kid say want to study med next time....bankrap liao macam ini....so if LCP can increase low end torque noticeably without adverse affect, my fc is going to come down a lot overtime since I travel abt 100km everyday...

Either that or wait for my sis to come back from working in Shanghai permanently....if ever. If that happen I would have an option to get any brand new 40% discounted new car,
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Yeah.. So faster go get a LCP..
Tell ur kids to study hard.. Get good grades then can apply scholarship no need to burden parents so much..
But now they are 10yo only.. Later when they are 18 or 21 time all will change in thinking.. Want to become businessman next time..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jan 30 2012, 11:09 AM)
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/car-re...-work-20110225/


Added on January 30, 2012, 11:22 ambut the car is 2 seater i think..
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Msia they bring in the 4 seater one..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
our PE piston combination when bursting is?
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1,3,4,2.. Thats the PE firing sequence..

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post Jan 30 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 30 2012, 04:49 PM)
Wait hit 18 years old, say want to marry....habis all my grandplan for my kids....

Whats the contact number or email for Drex and where's his shop (address) ar....? Need to check stock and price if decided to install. How long does it takes to install?
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LOL 18yo want to marry means u never teach him how to be cheongster ady.. Then later parenting fail..
His shop is in Bukit Jalil Esplanade.. Very near TPM there..
HIs fesbuk..https://www.facebook.com/drexchan
Installation normally take less than 20mins lah.. He damn pro sure can change damn fast..

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post Jan 30 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 30 2012, 05:25 PM)
1. Whats our original crank pulley weight?
2. If going for Myth, whats the weight of it?
3. Is it the exact same size or smaller?

I've heard of reports on LCP on cars of other makes, sometimes it makes very very minor differently only on the torque and smoother. Not really worth the RM600 or more forked out.

Also since LCP is light, is spins faster and that translate to bigger twisting force at your crankshaft. Will it damage or shorten the life of crankshaft?
So for our PE, anyone has first hand experience on H-Line auto tranny installed and can confirm if can feel anything or not? There might be a different affect on manual and auto tranny...
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Ori weight is 1.9kg..
LCP weight can never be below 1/3 of the ori weight, if not surely got problem such as crankshaft unblaanced etc..
Myth weight is 600 something gram, works is 632grams..
Myth is teeny weeny bit undersized, works is same sized.. Both also wont create any bad effect..
If u take like redline LCP then no really much improvements.. Cos its 900+ grams.. Not much weight savings..

Lighter LCP wont cause problem with ur crankshaft twisting..
The only problem is it will cause harmonic resonance at a lower RPM if ur engine is turbocharged..
IF u really want a super good crankshaft u can buy a new crankshaft used by the CFE engine and put it in our car.. 1.5k only.. Fully forged crankshaft.
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post Jan 30 2012, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jan 30 2012, 05:58 PM)
I wan test..
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QUOTE(mosh @ Jan 30 2012, 06:00 PM)
me too.....  biggrin.gif
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Everybody come join for TT loh.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 30 2012, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(JynoRip @ Jan 30 2012, 06:04 PM)
gong xi fa cai to all the persona members here... =D
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hehe thanks.. Gong xi going xi.. Ang pow ada?

QUOTE(mosh @ Jan 30 2012, 06:04 PM)
when ?
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Not sure.. Mb this weekend will have one.. Where are u staying?
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post Jan 30 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(JynoRip @ Jan 30 2012, 06:06 PM)
you never miss me...you just remember about ang pao....  cry.gif
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LOL u rarely drop by here mah.. And u are still the only member we have from Terengganu..
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post Jan 30 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(JynoRip @ Jan 30 2012, 06:13 PM)
lols... i'm still the only one...  brows.gif
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haha.. Y lah Persona very rare in Terengganu isit?

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post Jan 31 2012, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jan 30 2012, 06:19 PM)
When?
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See mb this weekend loh..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 30 2012, 06:20 PM)
actually what does TT means, i tot TT is crying face expression, but when i read your guys whole sentence is sounds like gathering


Added on January 30, 2012, 6:20 pmactually what does TT means, i tot TT is crying face expression, but when i read your guys whole sentence is sounds like gathering
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TT means teh tarik.. T.T means crying face.. haha..

QUOTE(vccy @ Jan 30 2012, 06:22 PM)
k.lee your extractor is made from steel galvanized? Performance good? Mine also cap tuna one.  tongue.gif
tough you don wan to change LCP? Cos air-cond will not so cold. LOL

Still have your REDLINE LCP with me. Who want to try? Redline LCP?    whistling.gif

Currently driving my sister wira 1.5 auto. Damn suxk in pickup. The exhause setup is 4-2-1, midbox and S-flow. So Zeng or xan or anyone, if i add a bullet will increase the pickup or not? Don plan to mod full system cos later parents bising.  sweat.gif
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Adding a bullet helps to compress the air and add backpressure.. When u add back pressure u are maintaining the compression of the engine combustion, which is very important .. When u add back pressure u actually reduce a bit of pickup.. cos when u accelerate ur exhaust velocity becomes faster, but the bullet and s-flow is restricting the airflow a bit by compressing it.. Thats y removing a catcon can improve pickup and low end power..

But then backpressure is still needed.. Thats y auto gear cars need to have s-flow mufflers.. It helps maintain a certain amount of backpressure and exhaust velocity, therefore maintaining compression in the engine.. If u lose compression in ur engine u actually will damage the engine due to the engine burning either too rich or lean..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 30 2012, 07:38 PM)
since PE firing sequence is 1-3 + 4-2, hotbit (combination 1-3 + 4,2 too) will be the perfect match?  hmm.gif
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Theoretically no.. With a firing sequence of 1,3,4,2.. THe air technically clashes when the 1st and 3rd chamber are fired consecutively, then the 4th and 2nd chamber are fired.. But then in a 4-2-1, scavenging effect from a well tuned extractor actually helps to pump the exhaust air out, therefore increasing exhaust velocity and giving much better pickup.. But the problem is each extractor is only tuned to operate at a certain RPM.. FOr example hotbits may be tuned for max scavenging effect at 3.5k RPM.. So the pickup will generally improve until 3.5k rpm.. after that the effect is not as good as a extractor tuned for 5k rpm.. etc..

QUOTE(James831 @ Jan 30 2012, 09:32 PM)
Guy, how much is the cost  to repair scatch and dent on driver and passenger side doors?
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depends on the scratch and dent.. The dent the bigger it is the more expensive.. Scratches generally no matter how many or how deep on the door, when u repaint u actually repaint the whole door.. Therefore it cost the same to repaint with 1 quite deep scratch or 10 very deep scratches. .

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 30 2012, 10:22 PM)
replaced ori midbox...keeping d ori midbox just in case...
jz now quite rush so just install d bullet first...
s-flow is 5zigen...


Added on January 30, 2012, 10:23 pmp/s: to be exact my setup is hotbit 421 > wegow 12" swirl > 5zigen s-flow...

which one has better setup?

hotbit 421 > wegow 12" swirl > ori midbox > 5zigen s-flow...
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A midbox creates multiple air distortions in different directions, therefore muffling down the exhaust gas sound.. It does create slight amount of backpressure too..

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 30 2012, 11:52 PM)
well, at least it is a temporary solution. You dont want it to become flying saucer on the highway next week... tongue.gif
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FINAL DESTINATION!

QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 31 2012, 01:51 AM)
Epic.. How old ah u all? Experience tarak cukup better stay slow follow the flow.. Know ur car better before pushing it to the limits.. Otherwise if something happen while u're speeding u won't be able to react correctly, might put ur life at risk..
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Know ur car better.. Push it beyond its limits, then only u will know what is ur car limit.. U will never know the limit of ur car if u never push it beyond the boundaries!! hahahahaha..
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post Feb 1 2012, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Jan 31 2012, 08:42 AM)
so should i go for bullet?  hmm.gif
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Hmmm Since u say the wira ady 18yo.. I suggest doing other things first lah.. How much is the mileage?
First u need to decarbonise the engine. Run a decarboniser to remove all those soots..
Then its good time for u to do a minor top overhaul.. Just change piston rings and clean the engine head will do..
After that check for compression problems.. No matter how good ur exhaust is, if ur compression got problem and u install a bullet or midbox to increase compression, u are going to cause a lot of piston blow-by.. After that clean ur throttle body, and change a new filter.. I think these itself will cause u quite some money around RM1k ady..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jan 31 2012, 01:43 PM)
my company sap consulting and outsourcing...seems like a few big project coming in a few months....
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Walau money printing company wei!!

QUOTE(mosh @ Jan 31 2012, 02:30 PM)
the OEM pad that came with the car during purchase is dusty. even thou its BOSCH, a reputable global automotive brand.

but the strange thing is... if you buy the proton part OEM brakepad that manufactured by BOSCH, it is not dusty. some say the pad part number is diffrent from the bosch pad that supplied with the car.  blink.gif

and so does the proton part brakepad that manufacturerd by Mintye.. im using it at my rear disc.. bought it RM50 and work better than the prev supplied bosch.

other weird real case on the tyre, whereby Continental tyre is supplied to B & M line whereby the lousy silverstone supplied for H-line... but some H-line do get continental.  doh.gif   dunno whereby it was stripped from the Persona SE stock or merely a cost cutting or simply business profitability strategy.. and mostly happen to brilliant red PE hmm.gif
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I got Sliverstone NS500 Kruizer 1 with my B line PE leh.. Ok lah quite good.. Dry road grip is above expectation.. Wet grip is not that good.. Can aquaplane easily under heavy rain at low speed.. But light to moderate rain can go high speed easily..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 31 2012, 04:14 PM)
Aiyerrr, when i TT with sam just now he keep say his car no difference with stock car, when i drive his car only i feel the power, then i drive back my car rev like crazy also slow like turtle, fuuuyoh zzzzz
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He LPPL a lot lah.. That fella using Powerzone.. Drag car wei..
Eh samwong when u free? I need to drag u this time leh.. Lets see which car is more powerful.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 31 2012, 04:39 PM)
7krpm verli nice, but i scared damage engine, lol ur car can win manual stock PE la
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Our engine rev cut is at 7250.. So no worries.. But dont always high drag ur car like that lah.. If not u will be changing a new engine every 2years. haha..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 31 2012, 04:42 PM)
now u know the difference between stock and mod PE la, haha

If u use stock tyre can chase 80% of the car on road liao la


Added on January 31, 2012, 4:43 pm

me 1st time sat in a car cornering lidat, i dunno the car wont terbalik de  sweat.gif
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Lotus Handling.. U can really push the car a lot.. Thats y i say try to push ur car as hard as u can (in a safe place of cos).. When the car surpass its limits then u will know the limit of ur car..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jan 31 2012, 04:44 PM)
auto car power what...just push trotthle only or use the L 2 3 overdrive lor......my car manual tranny..loss time during shifting.gear shift now at half a second..need to reduce until 0.1sec like F1 car..haha..turn off aircond then the car will be more powerful...haha..
ps: i was wondering for auto car..what rpm your engine when doing 160kph?
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How bout changing a short shifter into ur car and powershift at the same time? U barely lose power or momentum..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 31 2012, 05:05 PM)
eh, anyone can suggest mod that can make my performance better, but my father wont notice when he sat inside my car or wash my car?

i know one of it is decat, then what to change liao a, so now i really want to decat liao lol
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Give u a list to mod lah..
1) Works Engineering Drop-In Air Filter - RM120
2) Denso Iridium Spark Plugs IT20 - RM160
3) Works Engineering Lightened Crank Pulley - RM360
4) Grounding Cable - RM50-80 (get it from erictioh)
5) RaceTech Chassis Alignment Kit - RM200 (if u want really good handling and comfort)
6) HotBits Extractor 4-2-1 Long primary - RM580, u can get cap ayam if u are not rich enough for this.. tongue.gif
7) do up ur whole exhaust if got money.
8) Port and Polish ur engine head. A simple PnP will be quite sufficient. Cost around RM500+. Professional ones cost around 1.5k, with benchflow testing..
Those are the basic mods u can do to increase power lah.. Those i mentioned a newbie level mods.. When u go to amateur level u can touch throttle body boring, crankshaft balancing, engine blueprinting, hi-cam etc etc.. As long as u got the money i got the parts to recommend u to change.. hahaha..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jan 31 2012, 05:51 PM)
owh, as long as the sound not bigger then sam car then ok liao, cause sit inside cannot hear much, haha

i ask permission to join group liao, now wait the admin accept, dunno admin is who lai de
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Whats ur fb name ah?
THis is our official fb group..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/LynPersonaClub/

QUOTE(s30ckf @ Jan 31 2012, 09:46 PM)
Any brother brothers, sister sisters here who got installed Locktech into your car, please raise ur hand here...
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Me.. Install in JB.. RM250 only..

QUOTE(xhacker @ Feb 1 2012, 12:40 AM)
hey guys.. newbie question here.. Persona going to be my 1st car.. i wanna know roughly how much i need to pay every month for a 0 down payment Persona Elegance M-Line MT? i really have a 0 knowledge about buying a cars.. hope u guys can enlighten me before i go and apply my loan..
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It depends lah.. Easy way for u to calculate is to take the loan amount, times by the interest rate and divide by the months u are planning to pay..
FOr example u want to take 55k loan at 3% a year for 7 years. take 7 years times 3% = 21%... 55k times 121% = RM66550.. THen RM66550 divide by 84mths = RM792 a mth..

QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 1 2012, 01:58 AM)
When you get, what you planning to buy?
What you planning to buy?
I planning to get external hard disk since my uni no need buy any books smile.gif

Btw, pity the turtle.. Parking also kena langgar doh.gif
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Die means die together!! Kill all the turtles!

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post Feb 1 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 1 2012, 08:02 AM)
tried...d bass is not as good as d stock HU...
d bass just sound weak...clarity is much nicer than stock HU...no doubt
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Hmm have to tune using the EQ lah..
K.Lee sure laughing now.. Sony HU all are bass loving type..

QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 1 2012, 09:27 AM)
is illegal to sell la bro doh.gif
Yup. I saw at forum got book store selling hard disk.. smile.gif
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btw zeng, how's your car? repair liao or polished by kc?
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Illegal only if u get caught.. hehe.. I got see popular selling the portable HDD b4..
haha hvnt go find KC yet.. My friend got open car wash and detailing centre in JB.. So i paid him 10bucks, and he cuci and polished up my car for me.. So now no scratches at all.. Just the slight dent only.. and the broken side mirror.. cry.gif

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 1 2012, 09:41 AM)
if drive above 7250 what happen, lol

now only i know lotus handling so geng sweat.gif

i plan to change air filter and plugs 1st, then maybe cable, since this few i can afford, from my angpow money, hahahahaha, but cable got what function, lol, why can increase performance
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Rev cut will kick in and u will suddenly lose power..
cable is to improve grounding for ur car.. So ur audio would be very clearer and more bassy, aircon will be cooler and slightly faster gear change.

QUOTE(vccy @ Feb 1 2012, 12:53 PM)
I see. Then I go so some deep cleaning 1st.  laugh.gif
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hehe.. Clean all the holes! lol..

QUOTE(huat0823 @ Feb 1 2012, 01:47 PM)
Zen, can i upgrade rear drum brake to disc brake?
total damage will be how much?
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Yeah u can.. Normally ppl use Evo3 brake kit. Cost around RM600 for the rear only excluding lower arm and installation..
If u want to change full set including front disc with twin pot brakes and brake pump servo also will cost u around 1.3k-1.5k excluding installation.
Normally the best fit is Evo 3 brake set lah..

QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Feb 1 2012, 02:53 PM)
wah today i ask proton, the bosch brakepad rm 290..mintyr rm75..
almost died leh.
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So expensive.. Just go drex there get the Rapid Stop one.. The best road using pads so far and only cost RM160..Not even bendix can come close to this one.


Added on February 1, 2012, 3:18 pm
QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Feb 1 2012, 03:14 PM)
I afraid in future got problem,proton blame my brake pads..
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LOL bro dont worry bout that.. haha.. If they blame ur brake pads its time for u to shoot time nicely..
Brake pads wont affect engine health..

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