QUOTE(justarandomboy @ Jan 15 2012, 11:30 PM)
You actually go backwards from the x^2+8x+10Composite Functions [SPM] Problem
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Jan 15 2012, 11:32 PM
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Jan 15 2012, 11:38 PM
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hk(x) = (x^2 + 8x) + 10 --- A
Since h(x+4) = (x^2 + 8x) + 16 - 6 --- B Compare equation A and B h(x+4) = (x+4)^2 -6 Change x+4 to x h(x) = x^2 - 6 This post has been edited by VengenZ: Jan 15 2012, 11:43 PM |
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Jan 15 2012, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(justarandomboy @ Jan 15 2012, 11:49 PM) No problem QUOTE(RyukA @ Jan 15 2012, 11:49 PM) Its the same thing. I didnt say the method was wrong take k(x) for example. h(x) = x or we say the function h(x), graphed as y = x hence h(k(x)) = k(x) Given k(x) = x + 2 we know hk(x) = (x + 2) formalising an idea, for an unknown function z(x), if k(x) is a known function. and zk(x) can be expressed as y = a + b(k(x)) + c or a function of k(x), for a,c, are known constants/parameters. then z(x) is simply y = a + bx + c which is how TS, used the "completing the Square method, to obtain the equation as a factor of (k(x)) and work out h(x). An alternative method from inversing the identity. |
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Jan 16 2012, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(RyukA @ Jan 16 2012, 12:04 AM) Nvm.. I thought you quoted me coz something Anyway.. Let me proof TS's technique (In hope that TS will understand). h(x) = ax^2 + bx + c k(x) = x + d h[k(x)] = a[x+d]^2 + b(x+d) + c hk(x) = a(x^2 + xd + d^2) + bx + bd + c hk(x) = ax^2 + axd + ad^2 + bx + bd + c hk(x) = ax^2 + x(ad+bx+bd) + ad^2 + c Let B = ad+bx+bd and C = ad^2 + c hk(x) = ax^2 + Bx + C Now, we go backwards. h[k(x)] = a[x+d]^2 + b(x+d) + c h(x+d) = a[x+d]^2 + b(x+d) + c h(x+d-d) = a[x+d-d]^2 + b(x+d-d) + c Let x + d = y h(y-d) = a(y-d)^2 + b(y-d) +c Since y - d = x h(x) = ax^2 + bx + c (Q.E.D) So in Ts's way of solving we have: hk(x) = x^2 + 8x + 10 k(x) = x + 4 Let y = x + 4 x = y - 4 h(y) = (y - 4)^2 + 8(y - 4) + 10 h(y) = y^2 - 6 |
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Jan 16 2012, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(maximR @ Jan 16 2012, 06:58 PM) Hi . Never knew I'll get so many great responses . Anyway , yes , I finally got to the point that I can't understand the concept from all the reference books available , and also the textbooks . Since I'm currently tuition-less , I'll have to resort to asking on the internet , and I've gotten great responses . Sorry for this shitty drawing From all of the posts above , I figured I'll simplify the main gist of the concept , at least for me : We're finding h(x) , but if we map k(x) to the function x^2+8x+10 , I'll get the value of hk(x) instead and not h(x) . And to find x from k(x) , we'll have to inverse it , by letting y as the subject and then from there , express x in terms of y . Since y is set to be equal to k(x) , which is x+4 , to solve for x , it will be x=y-4 . But then when it comes to here my logic and reasoning doesn't understand this part : SINCE y=x+4 , and x=y-4 , why do we say its h(y) instead and not h(x) ? Is y=y-4 ? ![]() h(y) = y^2 - 6 = h(x+4) = (x+4)^2 -6 This post has been edited by VengenZ: Jan 16 2012, 09:28 PM |
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